• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Gigabyte Preparing Passively Cooled AMD X570S Motherboards

Joined
Feb 20, 2019
Messages
2,609 (3.06/day)
System Name Flavour of the month. I roll through hardware like it's not even mine (it often isn't).
Processor 5800X / 3600XT / 4700U
Motherboard Aorus X570 Elite / B550 DS3H
Cooling Alphacool full custom loop 360+140mm radiators / AMD Wraith Prism
Memory 32GB Patriot 3600CL17 / 32GB Corsair LPX 3200CL16 / 16GB LPDDR4X
Video Card(s) 2070S / 2060S / Vega7
Storage 1TB WD S100G + 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro / 1TB Adata SX8200 Pro+ 1TB MX500 / 20TB Synology DS220+
Display(s) Dell SG3220 165Hz VA / Samsung 65" Q9FN 120Hz VA
Case NZXT H440NE / Silverstone GD04 (almost nothing original left inside, thanks 3D printer!)
Audio Device(s) CA DacMagic+ with Presonus Eris E5 / Yamaha RX-V683 with Q Acoustics 3000-series / Sony MDR-1A
Power Supply BeQuiet StraightPower E9 680W / Corsair RM550
Mouse G303 / MX Anywhere 2 / Another MX Anywhere 2
Keyboard CM QuickFire Stealth (Cherry MX Brown) / Logitech MX Keys (not Cherry MX at all)
VR HMD Samsung Oddyssey
Software W10
Benchmark Scores I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000.
The chipset fan was totally pointless. The heatsinks that went with them wouldnt pass muster for an intel atom. Multiple users have succesfully put passsive heatsinks ont heir motherboards and lowered temperatures from the 60-70c range to the 40c range, with NO FAN.

The fan was a totally pointless feature, why it was pushed can only be chalked up to human stupidity.
When mine dies I'm just going to bin it and dump one of these on there using thermal epoxy:
1617809245514.png


Isnt there is a couple that I know x570 which are passively cooled? The overpriced Giga x570 aorus xtreme and Asus dark hero. But very well
They were super-expensive boards though. I wasn't paying an extra $/£/€500 just to get fanless chipset cooling.
Oh yeah, you mentioned they were overpriced. I just didn't realise *how* overpriced they were until I just looked it up.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Feb 21, 2006
Messages
1,101 (0.20/day)
Location
Toronto, Ontario
System Name The Expanse
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard Asus Prime X570-Pro BIOS 4002 AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.3 Patch A
Cooling Corsair H150i Pro
Memory 16GB Gskill Trident RGB DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34-1T
Video Card(s) GIGABYTE Radeon RX 580 GAMING 8GB
Storage Corsair MP600 1TB PCIe 4 / Samsung 860Evo 1TB x2 Raid 0 / Asus NAS AS1004T V2 14TB
Display(s) HP ZR24w + LG 24MB35 on Neo-Flex® Dual Monitor Lift Stand
Case Fractal Design Meshify S2
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi + Logitech Z-5500
Power Supply Corsair AX850 Titanium
Mouse Corsair Dark Core RGB
Keyboard Logitech G810
Software Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1
Benchmark Scores 3800X https://valid.x86.fr/1zr4a5 5800X https://valid.x86.fr/1bigrn
Isnt there is a couple that I know x570 which are passively cooled? The overpriced Giga x570 aorus xtreme and Asus dark hero. But very well

yes but these are $500+ motherboards.

I spent around $300 on mine I wouldn't spend an extra $200 just for a passive heatsink but that is me.
 
Joined
Apr 12, 2013
Messages
4,205 (1.40/day)
Dark hero isn't really that expensive, around 400 USD for the most part.
Screenshot (19).png
 
Joined
Feb 21, 2006
Messages
1,101 (0.20/day)
Location
Toronto, Ontario
System Name The Expanse
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard Asus Prime X570-Pro BIOS 4002 AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.3 Patch A
Cooling Corsair H150i Pro
Memory 16GB Gskill Trident RGB DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34-1T
Video Card(s) GIGABYTE Radeon RX 580 GAMING 8GB
Storage Corsair MP600 1TB PCIe 4 / Samsung 860Evo 1TB x2 Raid 0 / Asus NAS AS1004T V2 14TB
Display(s) HP ZR24w + LG 24MB35 on Neo-Flex® Dual Monitor Lift Stand
Case Fractal Design Meshify S2
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi + Logitech Z-5500
Power Supply Corsair AX850 Titanium
Mouse Corsair Dark Core RGB
Keyboard Logitech G810
Software Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1
Benchmark Scores 3800X https://valid.x86.fr/1zr4a5 5800X https://valid.x86.fr/1bigrn
Joined
Oct 7, 2018
Messages
9 (0.01/day)
Location
Pennsylvania, USA
Processor AMD Ryzen 5600X
Motherboard MSI MAG B550 Mortar
Cooling ARCTIC COOLING Liquid Freezer II 240
Memory G.SKILL Flare X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200
Video Card(s) EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 FTW GAMING, 08G-P4-6278-KR, 8GB GDDR5, HYBRID & RGB LED
Storage 1 x Samsung 980 PRO 500G | 2 x 1TB Samsung 860 EVO | 2 x 1TB WD10EADS
Display(s) 3 x Dell ST2421L
Case Lian Li O11D MINI-X
Audio Device(s) SteelSeries Arctis 5
Power Supply Seasonic FOCUS SGX-650, 650W
Mouse Mionix NAOS 7000 Optical Sensor Mouse
Keyboard Cyborg V.5 Keyboard
Software Windows 10 Pro 20H2
It is fine, but not good enough. No usb c front header, no wifi, mediocre VRM and it's cooling...



I still don't get why mATX didn't become the mainstream. Most of the people will be fine even with ITX boards (they just need 1 slot for GPU and nothing more), a few of them would need an additional slot for eg. a sound card and again - mATX will be more than enough... And yet we're stuck with a "relic of a past" standard (when each function of a PC had to be added by an expension card - sound, LAN, GPU acceleration...) that just takes more space and giving no profit in return.
The lack of popularity of mATX may have to do based on demand. There has been always a higher demand for ATX over mATX boards, especially in the DIY market, which is why motherboard manufacturers focus on that size. I am unsure if today's OEMs still use many MATX boards in their desktop builds like it was a decade ago or so.
I share your same thoughts about mATX, which I like that size option. I went from a z77 Asus Maximus V Gene to a MSI B550m Mortar (non-WIFI). It is a great board that satisfies my needs. Buildzoid did a power summary of the board, which he explained has a great VRM. The ASRock X750M Pro4 has a weaker VRM and other issues that I have researched, which I avoided. Instead, I waited for a long time until B550 offerings started being released to the market. The only downside to the B550 is the chipset limitations itself, such as the second m.2 slot is pcie gen3 instead of gen4, which the x570 does not have this limitation. For most people's needs, pcie gen 3 for m.2 nvme drives is enough. One would think mATX would gain popularity as integrated devices (e.g. audio, networking, etc) have gone a long way over the years, thus the lesser need for pci/pcie slots.
If you are still looking for a decent mATX for AM4, check out the MSI B550m Mortar board if you have not already. It does have usb c on the rear i/o, usb 3.2 gen2 header, wifi option and a great VRM. I am unsure what other requirements you are looking in a board, but I wish you luck in your pursuit. If you have any questions about the Mortar board, feel free to PM me.
 
Joined
Jan 21, 2021
Messages
17 (0.11/day)
Location
Vulcan
A step in the right direction. The only reason I avoided an X570 motherboard for my last build was because of the active cooling on it. But will the X570 chipset last much longer? given how we know AM5 and DDR5 are coming really soon - could be a case of too little too late.
 
Joined
Apr 12, 2013
Messages
4,205 (1.40/day)
given how we know AM5 and DDR5 are coming really soon
Where or how? I know DDR5 isn't becoming mainstream or cheap this year, in fact DDR4 will likely come down in price probably one last time later in the year, than AM5 being launched (only) with DDR5. Of course DDR4+DDR5 support on zen4 could also be a possibility, but I don't see AM5 replacing AM4 for the mainstream users anytime soon.
 
Joined
Feb 21, 2006
Messages
1,101 (0.20/day)
Location
Toronto, Ontario
System Name The Expanse
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard Asus Prime X570-Pro BIOS 4002 AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.3 Patch A
Cooling Corsair H150i Pro
Memory 16GB Gskill Trident RGB DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34-1T
Video Card(s) GIGABYTE Radeon RX 580 GAMING 8GB
Storage Corsair MP600 1TB PCIe 4 / Samsung 860Evo 1TB x2 Raid 0 / Asus NAS AS1004T V2 14TB
Display(s) HP ZR24w + LG 24MB35 on Neo-Flex® Dual Monitor Lift Stand
Case Fractal Design Meshify S2
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi + Logitech Z-5500
Power Supply Corsair AX850 Titanium
Mouse Corsair Dark Core RGB
Keyboard Logitech G810
Software Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1
Benchmark Scores 3800X https://valid.x86.fr/1zr4a5 5800X https://valid.x86.fr/1bigrn
AM5 + DDR5 + PCIe 5.0 should all be Zen 4 sometime in Q1 2022.

And everyone buying will be paying the early adopter fee for a new socket + DDR5 memory which will not be cheap on launch.
 
Joined
Dec 23, 2012
Messages
1,544 (0.50/day)
Location
Somewhere Over There!
System Name ArchRyze
Processor Ryzen R9 3900XT 4.5 Ghz @ 1.275V
Motherboard Asus ROG Crosshair Viii Hero Wifi
Cooling Lian Li 360 Galahad
Memory G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32gb OC @ 3733 mhz CL14-13-13-21 1T @ 1.43V
Video Card(s) Sapphire RX 6900 XT Nitro+
Storage Seagate 520 1TB + Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB + lots of HDD's
Display(s) Samsung Odyssey G7
Case Lian Li PC-O11D XL White
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Super Flower Leadex SE Platinum 1000W
Mouse Xenics Titan GX Air Wireless
Keyboard Kemove Snowfox 61
Software Main: Arch Linux KDE ; Windows 10 Pro (for games as benchmark)
Benchmark Scores Have tried but can't beat the leaders :)
When mine dies I'm just going to bin it and dump one of these on there using thermal epoxy:
View attachment 195674


They were super-expensive boards though. I wasn't paying an extra $/£/€500 just to get fanless chipset cooling.
Oh yeah, you mentioned they were overpriced. I just didn't realise *how* overpriced they were until I just looked it up.

yes but these are $500+ motherboards.

I spent around $300 on mine I wouldn't spend an extra $200 just for a passive heatsink but that is me.

Yep I do agree. At some point Asus and Gigabyte marked up their board price to somewhat say "passive" cooling on their chipset. Why cant they just make a passive cooling for all their x570 chipset. I am very sure that alot of people must have RMA their x570 board because of chipset fan noise, or fan failing.

I hope that my chipset fan wont fail. So far is doing ok. Not so noisy and so
 
Joined
Feb 21, 2006
Messages
1,101 (0.20/day)
Location
Toronto, Ontario
System Name The Expanse
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard Asus Prime X570-Pro BIOS 4002 AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.3 Patch A
Cooling Corsair H150i Pro
Memory 16GB Gskill Trident RGB DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34-1T
Video Card(s) GIGABYTE Radeon RX 580 GAMING 8GB
Storage Corsair MP600 1TB PCIe 4 / Samsung 860Evo 1TB x2 Raid 0 / Asus NAS AS1004T V2 14TB
Display(s) HP ZR24w + LG 24MB35 on Neo-Flex® Dual Monitor Lift Stand
Case Fractal Design Meshify S2
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi + Logitech Z-5500
Power Supply Corsair AX850 Titanium
Mouse Corsair Dark Core RGB
Keyboard Logitech G810
Software Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1
Benchmark Scores 3800X https://valid.x86.fr/1zr4a5 5800X https://valid.x86.fr/1bigrn
I am very sure that alot of people must have RMA their x570 board because of chipset fan noise, or fan failing.

I hope that my chipset fan wont fail. So far is doing ok. Not so noisy and so
I would like to see the numbers for RMA's for chipset fan noise and fan failing remember these board have only been out for almost 2 years. These aren't motherboards and chipset fans from the 90s!
 
Joined
Dec 23, 2012
Messages
1,544 (0.50/day)
Location
Somewhere Over There!
System Name ArchRyze
Processor Ryzen R9 3900XT 4.5 Ghz @ 1.275V
Motherboard Asus ROG Crosshair Viii Hero Wifi
Cooling Lian Li 360 Galahad
Memory G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32gb OC @ 3733 mhz CL14-13-13-21 1T @ 1.43V
Video Card(s) Sapphire RX 6900 XT Nitro+
Storage Seagate 520 1TB + Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB + lots of HDD's
Display(s) Samsung Odyssey G7
Case Lian Li PC-O11D XL White
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Super Flower Leadex SE Platinum 1000W
Mouse Xenics Titan GX Air Wireless
Keyboard Kemove Snowfox 61
Software Main: Arch Linux KDE ; Windows 10 Pro (for games as benchmark)
Benchmark Scores Have tried but can't beat the leaders :)
I would like to see the numbers for RMA's for chipset fan noise and fan failing remember these board have only been out for almost 2 years. These aren't motherboards and chipset fans from the 90s!
sure, let me just call up my secretary...

Geezz man, my point is, price for passive cooling solution might be cheaper in the long run, than a failing fan or costumer returning due to noise
 
Joined
Feb 21, 2006
Messages
1,101 (0.20/day)
Location
Toronto, Ontario
System Name The Expanse
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard Asus Prime X570-Pro BIOS 4002 AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.3 Patch A
Cooling Corsair H150i Pro
Memory 16GB Gskill Trident RGB DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34-1T
Video Card(s) GIGABYTE Radeon RX 580 GAMING 8GB
Storage Corsair MP600 1TB PCIe 4 / Samsung 860Evo 1TB x2 Raid 0 / Asus NAS AS1004T V2 14TB
Display(s) HP ZR24w + LG 24MB35 on Neo-Flex® Dual Monitor Lift Stand
Case Fractal Design Meshify S2
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi + Logitech Z-5500
Power Supply Corsair AX850 Titanium
Mouse Corsair Dark Core RGB
Keyboard Logitech G810
Software Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1
Benchmark Scores 3800X https://valid.x86.fr/1zr4a5 5800X https://valid.x86.fr/1bigrn
sure, let me just call up my secretary...

Geezz man, my point is, price for passive cooling solution might be cheaper in the long run, than a failing fan or costumer returning due to noise

That is my point everyone talking about chipset fan failures nobody has any numbers to back up these claims its all just hear say.These boards are not old enough for fan failures to be an issue. Then most of the complaints I see from this are from people not even on the AM4 platform.
 
Joined
Oct 22, 2014
Messages
12,281 (5.04/day)
Location
Sunshine Coast
System Name Black Box
Processor Intel i5-9600KF
Motherboard NZXT N7 Z370 Black
Cooling Cooler Master 240 RGB AIO / Stock
Memory Thermaltake Toughram 16GB 4400MHz DDR4 or Gigabyte 16GB 3600MHz DDR4 or Adata 8GB 2133Mhz DDR4
Video Card(s) Asus Dual 1060 6GB
Storage Kingston A2000 512Gb NVME
Display(s) AOC 24" Freesync 1m.s. 75Hz
Case Corsair 450D High Air Flow.
Audio Device(s) No need.
Power Supply FSP Aurum 650W
Mouse Yes
Keyboard Of course
Software W10 Pro 64 bit
That is my point everyone talking about chipset fan failures nobody has any numbers to back up these claims its all just hear say.These boards are not old enough for fan failures to be an issue. Then most of the complaints I see from this are from people not even on the AM4 platform.
Only chipset fan failure I had was on an old Z77 Extreme 11, and it's not like the fan totally died, I just needed to physically kick start it and it ran silently, it's just that it didn't like starting by itself. :laugh:
 
Joined
Dec 23, 2012
Messages
1,544 (0.50/day)
Location
Somewhere Over There!
System Name ArchRyze
Processor Ryzen R9 3900XT 4.5 Ghz @ 1.275V
Motherboard Asus ROG Crosshair Viii Hero Wifi
Cooling Lian Li 360 Galahad
Memory G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32gb OC @ 3733 mhz CL14-13-13-21 1T @ 1.43V
Video Card(s) Sapphire RX 6900 XT Nitro+
Storage Seagate 520 1TB + Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB + lots of HDD's
Display(s) Samsung Odyssey G7
Case Lian Li PC-O11D XL White
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Super Flower Leadex SE Platinum 1000W
Mouse Xenics Titan GX Air Wireless
Keyboard Kemove Snowfox 61
Software Main: Arch Linux KDE ; Windows 10 Pro (for games as benchmark)
Benchmark Scores Have tried but can't beat the leaders :)
That is my point everyone talking about chipset fan failures nobody has any numbers to back up these claims its all just hear say.These boards are not old enough for fan failures to be an issue. Then most of the complaints I see from this are from people not even on the AM4 platform.
are you working with some board manufacturers or something? You keep defending a chipset fan wherein long run, passive coolers is always better than with something mechanical. Fans will eventually dry up and fail at some point. I saw some youtube videos showing high pitch high rev chipset fans. And you will not experience this when it is passively cooled. it may not happen soon but it will bound to someday
 
Joined
Feb 21, 2006
Messages
1,101 (0.20/day)
Location
Toronto, Ontario
System Name The Expanse
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard Asus Prime X570-Pro BIOS 4002 AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.3 Patch A
Cooling Corsair H150i Pro
Memory 16GB Gskill Trident RGB DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34-1T
Video Card(s) GIGABYTE Radeon RX 580 GAMING 8GB
Storage Corsair MP600 1TB PCIe 4 / Samsung 860Evo 1TB x2 Raid 0 / Asus NAS AS1004T V2 14TB
Display(s) HP ZR24w + LG 24MB35 on Neo-Flex® Dual Monitor Lift Stand
Case Fractal Design Meshify S2
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi + Logitech Z-5500
Power Supply Corsair AX850 Titanium
Mouse Corsair Dark Core RGB
Keyboard Logitech G810
Software Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1
Benchmark Scores 3800X https://valid.x86.fr/1zr4a5 5800X https://valid.x86.fr/1bigrn
are you working with some board manufacturers or something? You keep defending a chipset fan wherein long run, passive coolers is always better than with something mechanical. Fans will eventually dry up and fail at some point. I saw some youtube videos showing high pitch high rev chipset fans. And you will not experience this when it is passively cooled. it may not happen soon but it will bound to someday

All in due time, we will find out in the next couple years if everyone on X570 has fan failures. And I understand mechanical parts fail in time, however I think people are making a far bigger deal about this than they need to. Complaining for the sake of complaining with no actual evidence of all these failures.
 
Joined
Feb 3, 2005
Messages
468 (0.08/day)
Lots of misinformation about the 570 chipset. It only consumes more when you attach 2 NVME ssd's on it, since the power delivery with the 570 is through the chipset. In a normal situation like 1 nvme ssd it does'nt require the fan to spinup at all.

The refresh is coming from TSMC obviously, which results in a bit lower power consumption.
This is correct. My x570 MAG Tomahawk doesn't spin up at all as I'm running SATA drives, and FWIW a PCIe 3.0 GPU.
 
Joined
Feb 20, 2019
Messages
2,609 (3.06/day)
System Name Flavour of the month. I roll through hardware like it's not even mine (it often isn't).
Processor 5800X / 3600XT / 4700U
Motherboard Aorus X570 Elite / B550 DS3H
Cooling Alphacool full custom loop 360+140mm radiators / AMD Wraith Prism
Memory 32GB Patriot 3600CL17 / 32GB Corsair LPX 3200CL16 / 16GB LPDDR4X
Video Card(s) 2070S / 2060S / Vega7
Storage 1TB WD S100G + 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro / 1TB Adata SX8200 Pro+ 1TB MX500 / 20TB Synology DS220+
Display(s) Dell SG3220 165Hz VA / Samsung 65" Q9FN 120Hz VA
Case NZXT H440NE / Silverstone GD04 (almost nothing original left inside, thanks 3D printer!)
Audio Device(s) CA DacMagic+ with Presonus Eris E5 / Yamaha RX-V683 with Q Acoustics 3000-series / Sony MDR-1A
Power Supply BeQuiet StraightPower E9 680W / Corsair RM550
Mouse G303 / MX Anywhere 2 / Another MX Anywhere 2
Keyboard CM QuickFire Stealth (Cherry MX Brown) / Logitech MX Keys (not Cherry MX at all)
VR HMD Samsung Oddyssey
Software W10
Benchmark Scores I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000.
That is my point everyone talking about chipset fan failures nobody has any numbers to back up these claims its all just hear say.These boards are not old enough for fan failures to be an issue. Then most of the complaints I see from this are from people not even on the AM4 platform.
I and I suspect many others were around almost 20 years ago when all Nforce2 motherboards required chipset fans. MSI, Gigabyte, Asus, Abit, Soyo - they ALL FAILED, no exceptions - some in as little as 6 months which is why the Asus A7N8X and DFI NFII boards were so desirable - they used oversized passive northbridge chipset coolers that caused clearance issues with some CPU coolers but were worth it for the hassle of never having to worry about the stupid chipset fan any more.

That was the era when the industry learned about capacitor failures and chipset fans, which is why polymer caps and fanless chipset heatsinks were such hot selling points for the decade after that. Like all good lessons, they are forgotten in time so that history may repeat itself :\
 
Joined
Feb 21, 2006
Messages
1,101 (0.20/day)
Location
Toronto, Ontario
System Name The Expanse
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard Asus Prime X570-Pro BIOS 4002 AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.3 Patch A
Cooling Corsair H150i Pro
Memory 16GB Gskill Trident RGB DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34-1T
Video Card(s) GIGABYTE Radeon RX 580 GAMING 8GB
Storage Corsair MP600 1TB PCIe 4 / Samsung 860Evo 1TB x2 Raid 0 / Asus NAS AS1004T V2 14TB
Display(s) HP ZR24w + LG 24MB35 on Neo-Flex® Dual Monitor Lift Stand
Case Fractal Design Meshify S2
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi + Logitech Z-5500
Power Supply Corsair AX850 Titanium
Mouse Corsair Dark Core RGB
Keyboard Logitech G810
Software Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1
Benchmark Scores 3800X https://valid.x86.fr/1zr4a5 5800X https://valid.x86.fr/1bigrn
I and I suspect many others were around almost 20 years ago when all Nforce2 motherboards required chipset fans. MSI, Gigabyte, Asus, Abit, Soyo - they ALL FAILED, no exceptions - some in as little as 6 months which is why the Asus A7N8X and DFI NFII boards were so desirable - they used oversized passive northbridge chipset coolers that caused clearance issues with some CPU coolers but were worth it for the hassle of never having to worry about the stupid chipset fan any more.

That was the era when the industry learned about capacitor failures and chipset fans, which is why polymer caps and fanless chipset heatsinks were such hot selling points for the decade after that. Like all good lessons, they are forgotten in time so that history may repeat itself :\

I still have a Asus A8n32-SLI board retired now but still runs with an socket 939 Operton 170 in it. I was using it for HTPC duty up until a year go.

 
Joined
Feb 3, 2005
Messages
468 (0.08/day)
I and I suspect many others were around almost 20 years ago when all Nforce2 motherboards required chipset fans. MSI, Gigabyte, Asus, Abit, Soyo - they ALL FAILED, no exceptions - some in as little as 6 months which is why the Asus A7N8X and DFI NFII boards were so desirable - they used oversized passive northbridge chipset coolers that caused clearance issues with some CPU coolers but were worth it for the hassle of never having to worry about the stupid chipset fan any more.

That was the era when the industry learned about capacitor failures and chipset fans, which is why polymer caps and fanless chipset heatsinks were such hot selling points for the decade after that. Like all good lessons, they are forgotten in time so that history may repeat itself :\

The X570 chipset heat couldn't have been avoided, nor do the nearby expansion slots allow for much cooling. I don't think it's about not learning lessons but rather dealing with technological and design limitations.
 
Joined
Feb 20, 2019
Messages
2,609 (3.06/day)
System Name Flavour of the month. I roll through hardware like it's not even mine (it often isn't).
Processor 5800X / 3600XT / 4700U
Motherboard Aorus X570 Elite / B550 DS3H
Cooling Alphacool full custom loop 360+140mm radiators / AMD Wraith Prism
Memory 32GB Patriot 3600CL17 / 32GB Corsair LPX 3200CL16 / 16GB LPDDR4X
Video Card(s) 2070S / 2060S / Vega7
Storage 1TB WD S100G + 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro / 1TB Adata SX8200 Pro+ 1TB MX500 / 20TB Synology DS220+
Display(s) Dell SG3220 165Hz VA / Samsung 65" Q9FN 120Hz VA
Case NZXT H440NE / Silverstone GD04 (almost nothing original left inside, thanks 3D printer!)
Audio Device(s) CA DacMagic+ with Presonus Eris E5 / Yamaha RX-V683 with Q Acoustics 3000-series / Sony MDR-1A
Power Supply BeQuiet StraightPower E9 680W / Corsair RM550
Mouse G303 / MX Anywhere 2 / Another MX Anywhere 2
Keyboard CM QuickFire Stealth (Cherry MX Brown) / Logitech MX Keys (not Cherry MX at all)
VR HMD Samsung Oddyssey
Software W10
Benchmark Scores I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000.
The X570 chipset heat couldn't have been avoided, nor do the nearby expansion slots allow for much cooling. I don't think it's about not learning lessons but rather dealing with technological and design limitations.
The expansion slots limit the size of the cooler you can put on the X570 chipset, but that's a problem the industry solved at extremely low cost several decades ago.

1618521012250.png


The cost of a heatpipe to carry the paltry 17W of the X570 chipset to around the CPU socket where there's plenty of room is about $0.80, according to Gamers Nexus factory tours. Google "Nforce2 heatpipe" for dozens of designs.
 
Joined
Jan 27, 2015
Messages
411 (0.18/day)
System Name Marmo / Kanon
Processor Intel Core i7 9700K / AMD Ryzen 7 3800XT
Motherboard Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro WiFi / X570 Aorus Pro
Cooling Noctua NH-U12S x 2
Memory Corsair Vengeance 16GB 2666-C16 / 32GB 2666-C16
Video Card(s) MSI GTX1080 Gaming+ X 11Gbps / EVGA RTX2080 Super Black
Storage Intel 760p 512GB, WD Blue 3D NAND 1TB / Samsung 970 Pro 512GB, 860 EVO 1TB
Display(s) Dell UltraSharp U2414H / U2715H
Case Lian-Li PC-60FN / PC-9F
Audio Device(s) Onboard / Creative SB ZxR
Power Supply SeaSonic Platinum 660W / X 750W
Mouse Logitech MX310 / G1
Keyboard Logitech Navigator / G413
Software Win 10 Ent x 2
I still have a Asus A8n32-SLI board retired now but still runs with an socket 939 Operton 170 in it. I was using it for HTPC duty up until a year go.

Isn't that a Nforce4 board which only had an optional mosfet cooling fan?

The boards Chrispy_ talked about were all nforce2 and I concur with what he said. I had an Abit nforce2 and its fan failed after about a year (just before failing it made a very high pitched noise)
 
Joined
Feb 21, 2006
Messages
1,101 (0.20/day)
Location
Toronto, Ontario
System Name The Expanse
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard Asus Prime X570-Pro BIOS 4002 AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.2.0.3 Patch A
Cooling Corsair H150i Pro
Memory 16GB Gskill Trident RGB DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34-1T
Video Card(s) GIGABYTE Radeon RX 580 GAMING 8GB
Storage Corsair MP600 1TB PCIe 4 / Samsung 860Evo 1TB x2 Raid 0 / Asus NAS AS1004T V2 14TB
Display(s) HP ZR24w + LG 24MB35 on Neo-Flex® Dual Monitor Lift Stand
Case Fractal Design Meshify S2
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi + Logitech Z-5500
Power Supply Corsair AX850 Titanium
Mouse Corsair Dark Core RGB
Keyboard Logitech G810
Software Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1
Benchmark Scores 3800X https://valid.x86.fr/1zr4a5 5800X https://valid.x86.fr/1bigrn
Isn't that a Nforce4 board which only had an optional mosfet cooling fan?

The boards Chrispy_ talked about were all nforce2 and I concur with what he said. I had an Abit nforce2 and its fan failed after about a year (just before failing it made a very high pitched noise)

Yes it is an Nforce 4 board.

I've also owned Nforce 2 boards and never had any fan failures on those either.
 
Top