Going 10th Gen! Check out my parts list, thoughts?

[TheLostSwede]

Fact, the setup is watercooled and looks to be using expensive Klevv RAM.

My Gigabyte boards are B450 and relevant, you're assuming that I have older boards for some reason. I don't care what he achieved, it could have been done on any other as capable board. These kind of OC'ing runs are pointless and do not mean anything to the end user.

Oh, ok, so first you say it's on LN2 and what not, now you claim it's irrelevant because it could've been done on any board...

And it's STILL valid, as the OP is looking at running his RAM at 4,500MHz. However, your opinions aren't really relevant in this case, as they add nothing to what the OP is asking about.

And no, it's not KLEVV, it's Gigabyte RAM, Hi Cookie just changed the heatsinks.

 

[X71200]

I thought it was LN2 because you didn't send the source, and it's still an extreme go if you look at how he did it (like just one stick, etc). There are various other boards in the market of this capability. Namely, Asus and Asrock have also just recently done this. I have suggested him Asus and while talking about the limitations of Gigabyte BIOS yourself, you're still going on about this. Pathetic.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I thought it was LN2 because you didn't send the source, and it's still an extreme go if you look at how he did it (like just one stick, etc). There are various other boards in the market of this capability. Namely, Asus and Asrock have also just recently done this. I have suggested him Asus and while talking about the limitations of Gigabyte BIOS yourself, you're still going on about this. Pathetic.

Huh? So a five year old board is the same as their latest boards? Right...
They've made so many changes of their UEFI since then, that they're way ahead of Asus imho and I had an X370 Prime in my last rig. That said, I don't think either Asus or Gigabyte makes a terrible UEFI, especially not compared to this MSI board I'm using right now in a loaner PC.

Sure, the 6GHz+ memory result might've been extreme, but there's NOTHING extreme about the 5GHz, I mean, even the latencies are normal.

You seem to have woken up on the wrong side today, as you seem to be attacking people all over the forums today for no good reason other than to piss people off.

 

[X71200]

Huh? So a five year old board is the same as their latest boards? Right...
They've made so many changes of their UEFI since then, that they're way ahead of Asus imho and I had an X370 Prime in my last rig. That said, I don't think either Asus or Gigabyte makes a terrible UEFI, especially not compared to this MSI board I'm using right now in a loaner PC.

Sure, the 6GHz+ memory result might've been extreme, but there's NOTHING extreme about the 5GHz, I mean, even the latencies are normal.

You seem to have woken up on the wrong side today, as you seem to be attacking people all over the forums today for no good reason other than to piss people off.

I mean you're pissing one off here for sure. How on earth is a B450 board 5 year old? Both those B450 boards are the new revisions that support Matisse out of the box. I don't know what MSI you're on about on that loaner PC, but I'll let you know Click BIOS has gone far in the past years. It's an alright solution for AMD setups, but on Intel I'd pick Asus.

There are couple things making a 5 Ghz memory OC an extreme attempt, he won't see that speed on his PC so it is IRRELEVANT.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I mean you're pissing one off here for sure. How on earth is a B450 board 5 year old? Both those B450 boards are the new revisions that support Matisse out of the box. I don't know what MSI you're on about on that loaner PC, but I'll let you know Click BIOS has gone far in the past years. It's an alright solution for AMD setups, but on Intel I'd pick Asus.

There are couple things making a 5 Ghz memory OC an extreme attempt, he won't see that speed on his PC so it is IRRELEVANT.

I was talking about my NAS, but ok, reading comprehension isn't one of your strong skills.

The MSI board is a Z370 so... It's by far the worst UI/UX I've EVER used in a UEFI/BIOS and that says something as I've been using PCs for almost 30 years.

No, it's not irrelevant, as this was standard, off the shelf modules, just with the heatsinks swapped out. It was a pair of KHX4800C19D8GX for the 5GHz and some plain old Gigabyte modules for some of the other runs. Also, what's wrong with showing the OP that what he wants to do is possible and then some?

4,500MHz relevant enough for you?

And this is with some Gigabyte modules with Samsung B-dies.

Just please take your aggro somewhere else.

 

[X71200]

Who even said a Gigabyte board can not do 4500? Are you in a good state of mind or what? I think you're the one that needs to take the nonsense elsewhere.

 

[freeagent]

Ive run a couple of gigabyte boards in the past as wasn't enthused about their bios. I though it was shite, to be frank. I am surprised to see gigabyte modules, but not surprised to see them doing well on a gigabyte board.

Pretty sweet results

Oh I just noticed the part number.. Nice.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Ive run a couple of gigabyte boards in the past as wasn't enthused about their bios. I though it was shite, to be frank. I am surprised to see gigabyte modules, but not surprised to see them doing well on a gigabyte board.

Pretty sweet results

Oh I just noticed the part number.. Nice.

I have no qualms about saying it was shit, in fact, I used to give my mates there hell for it. The worst one was the orange/black one, as it was both laggy and bad to navigate. This is partly why I went with Asus for my X370/Ryzen 7 1700 build. However, they seem to have finally gotten to a point where their UEFI is really rather quite good on their new boards and on top of that, at least for X570, they've been by far the best manufacturer to push out new updates across almost all their boards in a timely manner.

That's the thing in this industry, things rarely stay the same and the board maker that was on top last year, could be at the bottom this year when it comes to things like the UEFI, features, design etc.

 

[fusseli]

I would say that seeing a z490 Gigabyte (an Elite, which is lower than Ultra, and not high end Master or Xtreme!) hitting 5ghz and 6ghz ram speed, even if on LN2 extreme blah blah is a great sign and bodes well. Thanks for sharing! That actually makes me feel more confident of the chances of 4500 xmp working out of the box. I will stick with that and get it on order.

Ive run a couple of gigabyte boards in the past as wasn't enthused about their bios. I though it was shite, to be frank. I am surprised to see gigabyte modules, but not surprised to see them doing well on a gigabyte board.

Pretty sweet results

Oh I just noticed the part number.. Nice.

I recently parted out an internet box ITX build with a Gigabyte B450I Aorus Pro. Windows software seems no less buggy than my Asus Strix z270, IMO, so I'm not expecting a downgrade going to a Gigabyte Ultra. Looking back I had an Asus Sabertooth on my fx8350 and comaprably the Strix H was an upgrade but not hugely dissimilar.

Guess we'll see, I'm pulling the trigger on the z490 Aorus Ultra and the 4500/18 ram.

 

[Hotobu]

Is anyone else concerned about the power that processor needs and a 650W PSU? GN does their power draw readings on the processor itself and that was getting ~250W

 

[AsRock]

Is anyone else concerned about the power that processor needs and a 650W PSU? GN does their power draw readings on the processor itself and that was getting ~250W

When overclocked, if set to what Intel reconmends it's more like 200w if i remember correctly, on top of that when is a gaming PC at full swing anyways.

 

[dgianstefani]

Absolute peak power draw of CPU + GPU doesn't exceed 550w, and 99% of the time you won't be at absolute peak. It's fine.

 

[fusseli]

Absolute peak power draw of CPU + GPU doesn't exceed 550w, and 99% of the time you won't be at absolute peak. It's fine.

Yeah that's about what I was seeing in the reviews and from an online psu calculator, recommended size in the ~500W range. I will not SLI the 1080ti on this setup, and my 650W is very high quality, so it should be ok... it was good to go with an OC'd 7700k and SLI 970s

 

[Decryptor009]

My B450 Gigabyte board is pretty meh, but that don't mean Gigabyte Z490 are bad, does anyone remember the X58 UD7? Cream of the crop board!

And i want to say thank you to the OP for not being swayed by mouthy idiot's who can't accept that intel has released something better.

 

[fusseli]

My B450 Gigabyte board is pretty meh, but that don't mean Gigabyte Z490 are bad, does anyone remember the X58 UD7? Cream of the crop board!

And i want to say thank you to the OP for not being swayed by mouthy idiot's who can't accept that intel has released something better.

Funny you mention that, I always wanted a UD7 because they were top of the line back in the day. That's actually why I want to try Gigabyte high-midrange now after doing Asus a few times.

 

[John Naylor]

Definitely worth watching before you make a decision and part with your money

All we need is Jay and we'd have the Three Stooges

But I will agree on the timing ....

1. I haven't seen enough reviews
2. First stepping CPUs and MoBo's ?

I'll wait for the production lines to be tweaked, the OCs to improve and the bugs to be weeded out .

 

[FreedomEclipse]

All we need is Jay and we'd have the Three Stooges

But I will agree on the timing ....

1. I haven't seen enough reviews
2. First stepping CPUs and MoBo's ?

I'll wait for the production lines to be tweaked, the OCs to improve and the bugs to be weeded out .

Actually Jay did release a video comparison earlier today....

 

[tabascosauz]

@fusseli Just a thought, the 10600K is still a step up from the 7700K and doesn't cost much. 6C/12T won't hold you back in games either. OC potential shouldn't be appreciably disadvantaged compared to the 10700K, they're both in the same boat.

The money you save prepares you for Rocket Lake, which'll fit right into your current board. Comet Lake is the exact same core from your Kaby Lake with a few security mitigations and a soldered IHS, so you don't stand to gain much by spending more; however, the new Willow Cove uarch that's coming next will actually be quite a step up in terms of tech.

 

[fusseli]

@fusseli Just a thought, the 10600K is still a step up from the 7700K and doesn't cost much. 6C/12T won't hold you back in games either. OC potential shouldn't be appreciably disadvantaged compared to the 10700K, they're both in the same boat.

The money you save prepares you for Rocket Lake, which'll fit right into your current board. Comet Lake is the exact same core from your Kaby Lake with a few security mitigations and a soldered IHS, so you don't stand to gain much by spending more; however, the new Willow Cove uarch that's coming next will actually be quite a step up in terms of tech.

I like the 10700k for the balance between the i5 and i9, and it is double the cores I presently have. IPC is better too it's not just more cores. I could afford the 10900k fine but I don't see it giving me much edge all things considered.

The 10700k is a fine cpu if a bit boring and if you're set on it you definitely won't regret it.... I would definitely be looking at a 360 radiator or open loop cooling to max it out though.... If it was me I would be going with Asus board they seem to have the most stable early bios for the 400 series... Either the Hero or Formula

Maybe Rocket lake will be really good and not just another mostly refresh of old cpu from intel. Hopefully as Mobo manufactures have said it'll be compatible with LGA 1200.....

Missed this one. Ya I have a good Corsair 280mm AIO with Corsair ML Fans already and have some Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut to use. So hopefully that's enough not to have to upgrade... last I recall the 360s weren't really that much better than the 280s. I haven't checked reviews on those in a couple years though.

 

[Gmr_Chick]

Gigabyte's BIOS is known to be sub-par, but that doesn't mean anybody with a LN2 pot can't pull inane frequencies on it. I own couple Gigabyte boards and they have the worst BIOS out of my MSI and Asus ones. I've suggested him Asus and they do indeed have multiple boards waiting to come out, some of which look good physically. You can look at the old TPU news of this if you want. I have no doubts that an Asus board should be superior for an Intel platform.

My very first board, on the Z87 platform, was a Gigabyte Sniper Z5S. And back then, yes, their BIOS was a complete mess to navigate. Absolutely hated it. My last Giga board was the X570 Master, and the difference in BIOS functionality was night and day. I could actually navigate them easily, the layout was clean and reminded me of Asus. So they've clearly improved by leaps and bounds since my first Giga board. I can't speak about MSI though because I've never used their boards.

@fusseli Just a thought, the 10600K is still a step up from the 7700K and doesn't cost much. 6C/12T won't hold you back in games either. OC potential shouldn't be appreciably disadvantaged compared to the 10700K, they're both in the same boat.

10600K looks good in what few reviews of them are out there right now, but actually finding a 10600K? Pretty much impossible at the moment, at least here in the US. The ONLY 10th gen i5 I've seen is the 10400 on both Amazon and Newegg. Also impossible to find are the i7 10700K and the big daddy i9 10900K. So if OP has already managed to get his hands on a 10700K, my advice would be to rock the hell out of it, because it's a tough item to find in stock right now.

 

[fusseli]

My very first board, on the Z87 platform, was a Gigabyte Sniper Z5S. And back then, yes, their BIOS was a complete mess to navigate. Absolutely hated it. My last Giga board was the X570 Master, and the difference in BIOS functionality was night and day. I could actually navigate them easily, the layout was clean and reminded me of Asus. So they've clearly improved by leaps and bounds since my first Giga board. I can't speak about MSI though because I've never used their boards.

10600K looks good in what few reviews of them are out there right now, but actually finding a 10600K? Pretty much impossible at the moment, at least here in the US. The ONLY 10th gen i5 I've seen is the 10400 on both Amazon and Newegg. Also impossible to find are the i7 10700K and the big daddy i9 10900K. So if OP has already managed to get his hands on a 10700K, my advice would be to rock the hell out of it, because it's a tough item to find in stock right now.

I snagged a 10700k, it will be here Friday! Yeah they went quick, all 10900k and 10700k are sold out about everywhere now.

 

[niceone]

I snagged a 10700k, it will be here Friday! Yeah they went quick, all 10900k and 10700k are sold out about everywhere now.

You're lucky to get one since this was close to a paper launch. Few European retailers still have them. Mindfactory has been selling Comet Lake CPUs for a week now and they have sold about 70 of them in total (1/6th of daily Ryzen 3000 number)

 

[Gmr_Chick]

^ I only managed to get my 10700K thanks to @oxrufiioxo, who told me Amazon (at the time) had the 10700K for around $387 and said that was a ridiculously good price. I normally like to sleep on purchases for 24 hours (do I really need it vs. impulse buy) but with this being a hot commodity (and my luck with buying stuff like this) I HAD to jump on it because I knew it wasn't going to last long at that price. And guess what? I checked later that night after I'd bought it (sold and shipped by Amazon, so no funny business) and sure enough, it was only available via 3rd party sellers wanting anywhere from $600 to $900 USD for it

 

[Hyderz]

any1 wanna swap the 10th i9 gen for my 9900k? hehehehe im a bit jelly of new cpu
but i should know better not to spend money on new tech with the spec i currently have
well to those getting new 10th gen cpu enjoy your new cpu, hope you get a good cooler to cool these puppies
i heard they can get super warm

 

[fusseli]

^ I only managed to get my 10700K thanks to @oxrufiioxo, who told me Amazon (at the time) had the 10700K for around $387 and said that was a ridiculously good price. I normally like to sleep on purchases for 24 hours (do I really need it vs. impulse buy) but with this being a hot commodity (and my luck with buying stuff like this) I HAD to jump on it because I knew it wasn't going to last long at that price. And guess what? I checked later that night after I'd bought it (sold and shipped by Amazon, so no funny business) and sure enough, it was only available via 3rd party sellers wanting anywhere from $600 to $900 USD for it

Nice, good price! Got mine in at $409