Good Bronze 750w PSU

[doomexpt]

Hey guys , i´m buying a new stuff and for what i need i think 750w is enough , im looking for a BRONZE PSU because i don't want to update in some years , right now i´m using a corsair one for more than 12 years , im looking to spend MAX 90-100 euros , I was thinking about

MSI MAG A750BN 750W 80+ Bronze PCIE5​

or

ATX Corsair CX750 750W 80 Plus Bronze​

But maybe there is others around , im almost sure it will be to use on the new AMD board and CPU with ddr5 memory , or am4 + 5800x3d and ddr4 .


I added this option too , but don´t you guys think 650w is too low ? Im using a 6650 xt ( probably will upgrade later )

ATX Corsair RM650 650W 80 Plus Gold Full Modular​

Also is gold one , i really dont want to upgrade a PSU in next 4-5 years.

Once again , thanks to everyone .

 

[Ruru]

The MSI one without a doubt. Corsair CX has always been meh-tier at best.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Both of these are low-budget power supplies that are not guaranteed to last a lifetime like you want them to, but between these buy the MSI. The PCIe 5.0 compliance means it's a newer ATX 3.0 standard supply and it has the new 12V GPU connector that will be more and more relevant with future GPUs.

 

[doomexpt]

Both of these are low-budget power supplies that are not guaranteed to last a lifetime like you want them to, but between these buy the MSI. The PCIe 5.0 compliance means it's a newer ATX 3.0 standard supply and it has the new 12V GPU connector that will be more and more relevant with future GPUs.

The MSI is 85€ , its quite expensive already.

 

[Hyderz]

The MSI is 85€ , its quite expensive already.

I can say for other parts you can save money by buying a cheaper model or brand but for psu… don’t skimp out it is the heart of the pc. ( this is coming from a person who learnt it the hard way) I dont mean go all out on platinum rating 1200w ones but say a gold rating 750w from seasonic, corsair or even be quiet psus I’ve heard good things from them

 

[Fuzzi0n]

RM650 is your best bet out of those 3 by far, much higher end PSU. 650W will be fine unless you're building something super high end, and with Corsair you can usually get more/new cables including the 12VHPWR one if you end up needing it later on.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Agree, if the RM650 is an option, get that. However, make sure 650 watts can satisfy your build. Considering your budget constraints, doesn't look like you'll be installing any hardware that chugs a lot of power, but still, this power supply will not take kindly should you decide to install something like a 7900 XTX on your PC someday.

 

[doomexpt]

RM650 is your best bet out of those 3 by far, much higher end PSU. 650W will be fine unless you're building something super high end, and with Corsair you can usually get more/new cables including the 12VHPWR one if you end up needing it later on.

Yeah but with this PSU i will need to change it in next 2-3 years right ? My PC Enthusiast Series Modular TX850M is running for a decade and its running fine ( i think ) .

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[P4-630]

im looking to spend MAX 90-100 euros

For that money you can get a be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750W (gold)

Or a Seasonic Focus GX-750 (gold)

 

[doomexpt]

For that money you can get a be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750W (gold)

Or a Seasonic Focus GX-750 (gold)

The seasonic yes , but a be quiet! the lowest i see its 120€ , how good are seasonic compared to corsair and msi ?

ATX Seasonic G12 GC Series 750W 80 Plus Gold = 90 euros​

There is also a promotion on this one for more 6 euro.

ATX Seasonic G12 GM 850W 80 Plus Gold Semi Modular​

 

[wNotyarD]

The seasonic yes , but a be quiet! the lowest i see its 120€ , how good are seasonic compared to corsair and msi ?

ATX Seasonic G12 GC Series 750W 80 Plus Gold = 90 euros​

Seasonic is generally VERY reliable, and they make lots of PSUs for everyone else to rebrand.
The G12 GC is B-tier, so it's pretty good (and better than the other two options you listed, which are C-tier). It isn't modular and has no 12VHPWR/12V-2x6, however, so you'd need to manage a lot of cable clutter and use adapters for newer NVIDIA cards.

 

[Sunny and 75]

how good are seasonic

The best there is.

Seasonic is the OEM of other popular PSU brands.

 

[doomexpt]

Seasonic is generally VERY reliable, and they make lots of PSUs for everyone else to rebrand.
The G12 GC is B-tier, so it's pretty good (and better than the other two options you listed, which are C-tier). It isn't modular and has no 12VHPWR/12V-2x6, however, so you'd need to manage a lot of cable clutter and use adapters for newer NVIDIA cards.

Im not using for high end , to be honest ....the day i get money to buy a premium GPU i think i wont have a problem to spend money on a good psu , for now i just have a 6650xt and probably will buy the new things coming next month , and not the top , will be at max mid tier stuff , have like 500-600 at max for cpu + board and memory.

ATX Corsair RM650 650W 80 Plus Gold Full Modular this one its at 87 euro​

and

ATX Seasonic G12 GC Series 750W 80 Plus Gold = 90 euros​

Think the better choice is the seasonic right ?

 

[wNotyarD]

Im not using for high end , to be honest ....the day i get money to buy a premium GPU i think i wont have a problem to spend money on a good psu , for now i just have a 6650xt and probably will buy the new things coming next month , and not the top , will be at max mid tier stuff , have like 500-600 at max for cpu + board and memory.

ATX Corsair RM650 650W 80 Plus Gold Full Modular this one its at 87 euro​

and

ATX Seasonic G12 GC Series 750W 80 Plus Gold = 90 euros​

Think the better choice is the seasonic right ?

I'd get the Seasonic, yes.
About the necessity for a 12VHPWR/12V-2x6 cable, you don't need to go high in the NVIDIA stack to need it. Afaik most 4060Ti models use it, and that's the second lowest Ada GPU.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Yeah but with this PSU i will need to change it in next 2-3 years right ?

Why?

There is no reason to suspect it will fail in the next 2 - 3 years. It is important to remember that 80 PLUS certification is NOT an indicator of quality, reliability, or longevity. It is ONLY an indicator of "efficiency" (the amount of energy wasted in the form of heat).

Even the most basic (often called "white) 80-PLUS certification requires the PSU to have a relatively "flat" efficiency curve across its output range and be at least 80% efficient at 30, 50 and 100% loads. And that is very good compared to a basic PSU which typically has a "bell" shaped curve with a peak efficiency of (if lucky) 70% at just one or two points.

My point is, "IN THEORY" even a basic PSU can be expected to provide many years of decent service AS LONG AS it is not abused. That is, it is properly cooled, is not subjected to excessive surges and spikes from the mains, and is sized correctly for the job.

The problem with the most basic supply is, manufacturers typically don't always use quality components in their budget models. I often ask, would you buy generic fuel for your brand new Porsche from the corner Tobacco and Bait shop? Since EVERYTHING inside the computer case depends on good, clean, stable power, make sure you provide it.

So go with a quality supply from a reputable maker. Bronze certified is fine, but I typically go for the Gold since their prices are typically very similar. I do not recommend Platinum or Titanium unless you find one heavily discounted on sale. This is because, if you do the math, it will typically take YEARS to make up the extra costs of the Platinum or Titanium PSU in energy savings. MANY YEARS!!!

Now, if you think you will have to buy a new PSU in 2 to 3 years because your needs will change, then buy a PSU sized right for your needs 2 to 3 years from now! It is that simple. Just plan ahead.

 

[ty_ger]

Does good and bronze PSU belong in the same sentence? A bronze rating suggests compromise. I would rather associate the word acceptable with bronze.

 

[doomexpt]

I'd get the Seasonic, yes.
About the necessity for a 12VHPWR/12V-2x6 cable, you don't need to go high in the NVIDIA stack to need it. Afaik most 4060Ti models use it, and that's the second lowest Ada GPU.

Just found this one at big discount .

Seasonic Fonte de alimentação Focus GX750 750W - 105€​

 

[Deleted member 229121]

For that money you can get a be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750W (gold)

Or a Seasonic Focus GX-750 (gold)

The RM-650 is the best unit in the OP, but a GX-750 (gold) would be better if it can be had for a good price.

 

[Bill_Bright]

Does good and bronze PSU belong in the same sentence? A bronze rating suggests compromise.

Sure and no, it does not suggest compromise.

It seems you missed the most important part of my comment. I say it again,

It is important to remember that 80 PLUS certification is NOT an indicator of quality, reliability, or longevity. It is ONLY an indicator of "efficiency" (the amount of energy wasted in the form of heat).

A compromise would suggest some deviation from a higher standard. There is no "standard" (other than the ATX standards) to deviate from. And the ATX standard does NOT dictate a minimum "efficiency". So just because a PSU is certified Bronze instead of some higher rating, that does NOT mean it is of less "quality". Nor does it suggest it is not as good, except at consuming energy efficiently.

Again, there is absolutely NOTHING to suggest the output voltages of a Gold, Platinum, or Titanium supply will be more stable, more accurate, or "cleaner" than the output voltages from a Bronze or even non-certified supply. Why? Because that is NOT the intention of the 80 PLUS certification program. The 80 PLUS program is ONLY about efficiency.

It is a total myth (marketing hype!) that higher 80 PLUS certifications equates to better quality, better reliability, or longer life. PERIOD!

 

[Fuzzi0n]

Yeah but with this PSU i will need to change it in next 2-3 years right ? My PC Enthusiast Series Modular TX850M is running for a decade and its running fine ( i think ) .

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The only reason you'd need to change it would be if you bought some incredibly power hungry hardware, however given you have a 6650XT and were looking at a potential AM5 build you're fine. The RM650 is a high end PSU that'll happily run at full output for years, you're not going to be anywhere close to that with your current or potential new hardware. The Focus GX-750 you also mentioned is a good choice, I did see an 850W version too that was around that price but either unit is quite a bit of an increase over the RM650. Up to you, but if you're on a budget the €20-30 saved buying the Corsair might be better spent elsewhere.

 

[ty_ger]

If you only aim for lower efficiency, you can make compromises on component quantity, design, and component performance in order to only achieve the lower efficiency.
Bronze are usually lower tier and platinum are usually higher tier. Their warranty periods are usually similarly similarly reflected. It isn't a coincidence.
Bronze has more compromise than platinum. 100% guaranteed.

 

[ExcuseMeWtf]

Does good and bronze PSU belong in the same sentence? A bronze rating suggests compromise. I would rather associate the word acceptable with bronze.

Bronze rating only suggest hitting specific efficiency goals. It says nothing about build quality. There are some greatly built Bronze PSUs (like old Antec Signature, back in JG days) and garbage Gold ones (like that exploding Gigabyte). It's just that nowadays top quality PSUs will hit Platinum or Titanium anyways, and why artificially lower it?

And it's moot anyways, if company pulls off bait-n-switch, like several have been caught doing.

 

[ty_ger]

You can read my response from 3 minutes prior.

 

[dirtyferret]

@Bill_Bright

Bill, this is why we need a PSU forum. You have people responding that couldn't tell you the first thing thing about a platform but call it "meh".

The 80 PLUS program is ONLY about efficiency

a test with results taken at three intervals at room temp at that

 

[Bill_Bright]

You can read my response from 3 minutes prior.

But it is still incorrect. The only compromise there is is by the user compromising in the budget.

The logic you are trying to use is flawed because that is NOT how the 80 PLUS certification program works.

Your logic would suggest a car that gets 30mpg is better, more reliable, longer lasting, than a similar car that gets 27mpg, just because it has a higher MPG rating. That too just is not true.

Your logic would suggest a Seasonic Gold is automatically of poorer quality than any and all other brand (including no-name generic) Platinum PSU. Not true.

For sure, it is possible a Platinum certified PSU is of better quality than a Bronze. But that is NOT just because it has a higher 80 PLUS certification.

You are putting more into the 80 PLUS certification program than there actually is. That is NOT a criticism of the 80 PLUS program. It is simply pointing out the intent of the 80 PLUS certification program, by design, is about PSU efficiency only, and nothing more.

Bill, this is why we need a PSU forum. You have people responding that couldn't tell you the first thing thing about a platform but call it "meh".

@dirtyferret - since this is not a troubleshooting issue, I could not agree more.