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Honestly if I was building a PC right now (I'm not), I would just try to get a PS5 or xbox series x at this point.
I would say a lot of PC gamers feel that way and once they are in that new console ecosystem what is the point of coming back to PC gaming until the console version of the games are significantly dated. This issue will impact PC gaming for the next few years with potential gamers focusing more on consoles for a few years.
 
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I really wanna see it till I believe it. Besides I got a new GPU already and a 4k 144Hz monitor (on the way) so I guess I'm covered for this year. Anyway, I would really appreciate availability and not just GPUs or CPUs. There's plenty of other electronics that suffer extremely low availability.
 

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Well, I'm very good at pulling educated speculations out of my ass too. Watch this... :roll:
Without resorting to economic mumbo-jumbo and confusing made-up words I, The Great and Beardy Nostradamus, predict that come early H2 2021 you will be able to buy your precious new GPUs because EIP1559 has been greenlit for July-August.
 
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6800 costing at least $1000 CAD while a 3070 is $800.
The 3060ti is $399 in the US, which is roughly $490 Canadian dollars
The 3070 is $500 in the US, which is roughly $600 Canadian Dollars
im not sure on the exchange

anything past that is either markup, or import/tariff fee's, profit, etc (i know depending on where in Canada you are, things can be expensive, even milk & eggs). But those dont look like scalper prices, as theyre not as high as scalper prices go.
i recently sold a couple 3080's here on TPU, i couldnt charge MSRP, as id lose money after transfer PP fee's, shipping , & other costs, but i kept it under $1000, otherwise id not have done it. But i mention it, because it demonstrates the fact that even if youre not making profit, the cost goes up for each intermediary that the product goes through
 
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The 3060ti is $399 in the US, which is roughly $490 Canadian dollars
The 3070 is $500 in the US, which is roughly $600 Canadian Dollars
im not sure on the exchange

anything past that is either markup, or import/tariff fee's, profit, etc (i know depending on where in Canada you are, things can be expensive, even milk & eggs). But those dont look like scalper prices, as theyre not as high as scalper prices go.
i recently sold a couple 3080's here on TPU, i couldnt charge MSRP, as id lose money after transfer PP fee's, shipping , & other costs, but i kept it under $1000, otherwise id not have done it. But i mention it, because it demonstrates the fact that even if youre not making profit, the cost goes up for each intermediary that the product goes through
You wouldn't happen to have another 3080 for sale, would you? Lol.

Not exactly scalper prices because the models are none FE, so it's the AIB's. Plus it was after taxes and recycling fee nonsense. So it was less than $800 (like $740 or so which makes sense for more expensive aib model plus exchange rate) and then tax.

Not bad I would say but the 6800 I believe was supposed to be only about $79 more expensive than 3070. Oh well.
 
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Is it me or are there quite a lot of Turing cards going to the grave lately?

Cards being worn out... are they all mining cards? Or is this more?
 

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I would say a lot of PC gamers feel that way and once they are in that new console ecosystem what is the point of coming back to PC gaming until the console version of the games are significantly dated. This issue will impact PC gaming for the next few years with potential gamers focusing more on consoles for a few years.

for me it was simple really, I already have to many games backlog so PC just made sense.
 
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Is it me or are there quite a lot of Turing cards going to the grave lately?

Cards being worn out... are they all mining cards? Or is this more?

I'm not sure mining actually contributes more to wear than typical gaming use. The fans maybe but there are many cards that have survived two mining booms.

Turing had defect issues at the start so who knows.
 

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I'm not sure mining actually contributes more to wear than typical gaming use. The fans maybe but there are many cards that have survived two mining booms.
Exactly. It all depends on the owner. Over the years I figured out that it's actually much safer to buy mining cards from large-scale miners rather than small-time mining hobbyists (or even non-miners).
At least in my area, if you can afford a 100+card setup, you can definitely afford a dedicated building with HVAC, dust filters, and proper power delivery (I mean both grid, and actual PSUs). Small-scale miners tend to put their rigs in a basement or on the balcony of their apartment, with total disregard to moisture, dust and dirt, maintenance, etc.
Recently bought a couple of RX470s for cheap gaming rigs. Both came from a bulk sale. What was really cool is that the previous owner not only cleaned it up really good, but also replaced fans with brand new ones. Then I've got a "pinkie-swear non-mining" EVGA GTX 1070, which was only clean on the outside, but a total nightmare with heatsink removed.
 

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Exactly. It all depends on the owner. Over the years I figured out that it's actually much safer to buy mining cards from large-scale miners rather than small-time mining hobbyists (or even non-miners).
At least in my area, if you can afford a 100+card setup, you can definitely afford a dedicated building with HVAC, dust filters, and proper power delivery (I mean both grid, and actual PSUs). Small-scale miners tend to put their rigs in a basement or on the balcony of their apartment, with total disregard to moisture, dust and dirt, maintenance, etc.
Recently bought a couple of RX470s for cheap gaming rigs. Both came from a bulk sale. What was really cool is that the previous owner not only cleaned it up really good, but also replaced fans with brand new ones. Then I've got a "pinkie-swear non-mining" EVGA GTX 1070, which was only clean on the outside, but a total nightmare with heatsink removed.

i disagree with this idea. any usage of the gpu at all decreases its lifespan, heat is heat - erosion is erosion - which i why i intend to preserve my gpu's limited lifespan for gaming, because who knows if this crap will ever end.
 
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Instead of buying a new GPU now, I bought a new 4K TV for now, no regrets.
If I would see a GPU in stock I wanted, I just don't want to pay an absurt amount for it.
Maybe I'll just wait for next gen Lovelace/Hopper....
As normal people do. I also save more money to buy better gpu, not just pricier.
 
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Is it me or are there quite a lot of Turing cards going to the grave lately?

Cards being worn out... are they all mining cards? Or is this more?

I have 7 Turing card's running in systems I built, 3 2080 ti (all strix OC), 1 2080 super (Msi gaming X trio), 1 2080 (evga ftw3 hybrid), 1 2070 (gig gaming oc), 1 2060 (msi gaming x) .... some since launch without issues small sample size I guess. I'll post if any die..... The oldest cards I have are pascal based that really need an upgrade but i guess I'll wait till nextgen.. The only 30 series card I've been able to get for a build was a 3060 ti for a buddy.
 
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i disagree with this idea. any usage of the gpu at all decreases its lifespan, heat is heat - erosion is erosion - which i why i intend to preserve my gpu's limited lifespan for gaming, because who knows if this crap will ever end.
But that's the main difference between mining and gaming cards: even beginner miners tend to tweak power profiles for maximum profitability at minimal power usage. Even with 24/7 operation you still get much-much lower temperatures than, let's say, the same card with default clock/power profile in an enclosed chassis with 90% chance of not even having intake fans. Most degradation is caused by temperature variations, and mining cards tend to stay pretty stable. My 2060S is comfortably chilling at 58C while before my mining experiment it could get as hot as 80C at default settings. My recently-added 1070 is even better, it's at 50C and barely needs more than 40% fan speed. Both are inside PC cases, not even an open-stand or a mining rack.
In the past few months I did some rebuilds and maintenance on customer's farms, and so far out of 30+ cards not a single dead or problematic unit. One farm was so horribly built, that I had to redo the whole thing, but I was really surprised to see that even with those issues all cards survived almost 3 years of non-stop mining. That's the power of proper maintenance. The only thing that I've noticed, is that memory OC declined just a little bit. He used to run those P104-100 cards at +600MHz, and now it can only handle +550 before becoming unstable. Still pretty good, considering all other issues with that rig.
I think the only dead mining cards I had in my workshop were the ones with back-asswards overclock, and as a consequence - exploded VRM or burnt traces on +12V rail. All were RX480/470... or the ones with moisture damage. Maybe a couple with dead VRAM, but it's not like I've never had a gaming card with memory defects in my workshop before.
 
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i disagree with this idea. any usage of the gpu at all decreases its lifespan, heat is heat - erosion is erosion - which i why i intend to preserve my gpu's limited lifespan for gaming, because who knows if this crap will ever end.

The amount of heat is important. You are a lot more likely to have far more degradation at 98c compared to 68c.
 

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The amount of heat is important. You are a lot more likely to have far more degradation at 98c compared to 68c.

my rx 6800 never breaks 60 celsius even with healthy oc on it. i use a very aggress fan curve though... most likely i will need to replace the fans someday lol but hey better than replacing the gpu in full
 
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my rx 6800 never breaks 60 celsius even with healthy oc on it. i use a very aggress fan curve though... most likely i will need to replace the fans someday lol but hey better than replacing the gpu in full
My RX 5600XT easily goes to about 75 C for the hotspot. Especially before installing those Noctuas!
 

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My RX 5600XT easily goes to about 75 C for the hotspot. Especially before installing those Noctuas!

ah!!! well my hotspot does hit 80-84 range even with my aggressive fan curve, BUT it doesn't stay there very long... i'd say 79 average... but that is very normal for the hotspot reading, I thought we were just talking general reading of the temp. apologies for the confusion mate
 
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Is it me or are there quite a lot of Turing cards going to the grave lately?

Cards being worn out... are they all mining cards? Or is this more?

Turing had defect issues at the start so who knows.

I have a serious question for you two. I'm asking as a 1660 Super owner. Is there ANY way whatsoever to tell when a Turing GPU was made, what batch it was apart of, etc? The only thing I know is the Turing cards featuring Micron RAM, which mine has, had a tendency to fail out of the blue...
 
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I have a serious question for you two. I'm asking as a 1660 Super owner. Is there ANY way whatsoever to tell when a Turing GPU was made, what batch it was apart of, etc? The only thing I know is the Turing cards featuring Micron RAM, which mine has, had a tendency to fail out of the blue...
can't speak for either Vayra or Evernessince but the issues I've seen mostly impacted higher tier cards, I don't think you have anything to worry about with the 1660 super
 

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The only thing I know is the Turing cards featuring Micron RAM, which mine has, had a tendency to fail out of the blue...
That mostly concerns the first batch of cards, and it's quite rare. Any 20-series GTX or Super cards aren't affected, or at least none surfaced yet with this issue.
I think I've only seen one RTX 2070 with "stick figure" artifacts.
 
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can't speak for either Vayra or Evernessince but the issues I've seen mostly impacted higher tier cards, I don't think you have anything to worry about with the 1660 super

That mostly concerns the first batch of cards, and it's quite rare. Any 20-series GTX or Super cards aren't affected, or at least none surfaced yet with this issue.
I think I've only seen one RTX 2070 with "stick figure" artifacts.

Whew! That's a relief. Thanks you two :)
 
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