GPU-Z on Steam?

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

(Microsoft) Windows Store.

No. I dont use it. I dont want to use it. I will never make use of it.

I do not want to receive my software this way.

 

[Naki]

Interesting. Are you not a gamer? I see you have a very powerful PC, some good PC games are Windows Store-exclusive, and your PC would play those very well.
Example: Forza series (paid games), IMHO not so bad Asphalt 8 and 9 and Xtreme (free games) among others, some other genres of games too - Microsoft's own games.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

No. I dont use it. I dont want to use it. I will never make use of it.

I do not want to receive my software this way.

That's a useful attitude, I get you , I didn't like steam initially and im not sold yet ,but in a world with numerous app shops and hardly any games that are not linked to a web based ui , it's probably a bit late for us to riot.

 

[Naki]

Guys, by using Windows 10 you are in fact using Windows Store anyway (behind the scenes), so even if you avoid it, it is there.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Guys, by using Windows 10 you are in fact using Windows Store anyway (behind the scenes), so even if you avoid it, it is there.

Guy's,. I am fully on the grid and as unsecured as the modern world allows apparently(see latest security nightmare at x company)
Security or not some guy somewhere is buying my details no doubt, the question is just "is there bank details" ,fact , that's why i signup.
Because there is not much i can do about the multitude of admins that Are going to f##k up this year and I don't believe isolation a solution.

Windows shops a good idea ,i said as much.

 

[Space Lynx]

No plans for that. Especially not when there's no revenue stream associated with it. Why should I jump through all the hoops and loops that Valve certainly has tied to Steam?

Not to mention steam is going to be history in less than ten years unless it changes its ancient ways. 30% of revenue grab for one thing is an archaic model, and Steam is finally getting competition on that front from many companies. why sell my game on steam for 30% loss when i can do it for 12% somewhere else? sure you can argue community and large base now, but its slowly dwindling, and most people do not mind using multiple clients, most of us do already whether we like it or not.

 

[silentbogo]

Guys, by using Windows 10 you are in fact using Windows Store anyway (behind the scenes), so even if you avoid it, it is there.

Not necessarily. UWP is always there. Store can be disabled and never-ever used (like in W10 Enterprise or IoT). It can become a good option if MS would iron-out all the bugs and took a firm stance on content quality control (themselves included). It's so unpopular because most of its content consists of Android ports, garbageware, tablet-friendly software, mutilated and ad-riddled classic games(solitaire, minesweeper, etc) and rare and on most occasions - buggy MS-exclusives.
I've just launched the store for the first time since 2017 and after 2 minutes of playing around with search and filters it hung on me (tried to find Real Racing 3 - my favorite iPad game).

 

[windwhirl]

At first I thought "why not?"...

After reading all the comments, and more importantly, W1zzard's opinion on the matter, I have to change my vote to "No". Seems like a lot of stuff to do, for little to no benefit of any kind.

 

[FordGT90Concept]

No plans for that. Especially not when there's no revenue stream associated with it. Why should I jump through all the hoops and loops that Valve certainly has tied to Steam?

Doesn't have to be free. Even charging just a buck to make it worth your while probably won't stop people from getting it through the platform. Hell, could charge at the beginning and once you recoup your costs, change it to free.

Two reasons to do it:
1) exposure so more people use it.
2) easier for users that do use it to keep it up to date and accessible.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Interesting. Are you not a gamer? I see you have a very powerful PC, some good PC games are Windows Store-exclusive, and your PC would play those very well.
Example: Forza series (paid games), IMHO not so bad Asphalt 8 and 9 and Xtreme (free games) among others, some other genres of games too - Microsoft's own games.

I am. I play wow and bf5 mostly when I have time. I don't play Ms games. Nothing on Ms store holds any interest for me. And I certainly don't use apps

Guys, by using Windows 10 you are in fact using Windows Store anyway (behind the scenes), so even if you avoid it, it is there.

I'm not using it directly. Just indirectly because I'm forced.

 

[qubit]

No plans for that. Especially not when there's no revenue stream associated with it. Why should I jump through all the hoops and loops that Valve certainly has tied to Steam?

Ok, thanks for letting me know. No problem, just an idea.

 

[Durvelle27]

I voted no

 

[silentbogo]

The seatbelt analogy is ridiculous. You're truly an idiot to not wear a seatbelt(unless you're looking to kill yourself, and/or rack up fines).

But that's what security is all about - you miss it once and you are f#$%ed. Even computer-literate people do stupid things.
We had a field tech who was stupid enough to disable UAC on a work laptop and install some shady music streaming software, which got him infected with a cryptomining malware. UAC would've prevented that (or at least let him know that something shady is going on behind the scenes). I only caught it cause he had to mail his laptop to me for service, due to excessive overheating and glitching.
Also UAC has helped to save our economist's PC during the Petya outbreak. It wasn't able to do any harm (or do anything, for that matter), cause UAC was enabled, and the Admin account was password protected and not used as primary (it's an old windows 7 machine).
Our head economist wasn't that lucky, though. Her personal laptop with all the accounting and paperwork got infected with Petya only because few months prior to that she took her laptop to some random PC service and those retarded "specialists" had installed some "custom build" of Win 7 with UAC disabled by default.
I still have a pic somewhere, as a reminder:

Spoiler

So, what I'm trying to say is that I don't care what you think about UAC, all I know is that after kicking everyone's ass about disabling UAC, and re-configuring some things that our previous admin did wrong, we had not a single outbreak since early 2017.
If you want to get rid of those annoying pop-ups on your PC - fix ownership and/or permissions. People have been doing that since 90s on Linux.
I think this concludes our offtopic conversation.

 

[Gorstak]

How about just a taskbar icon on close or minimise, which would record gpu data while we game and also periodically look for update?

 

[Naki]

How about just a taskbar icon on close or minimise, which would record gpu data while we game and also periodically look for update?

Already covered. Not a visual or GUI issue, you will still need an UAC prompt to update GPU-Z, there is no way around that in current GPU-Z form - does not matter if you have 1, 2 or 4+ icons running at once.

Silentbogo, thanks for the very good explanation! Exactly same reasoning for me here.

 

[qubit]

It seems to me like what you really want is an auto-update/one-click update feature.

That would be handy.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Guys, by using Windows 10 you are in fact using Windows Store anyway (behind the scenes), so even if you avoid it, it is there.

No that's wrong.
https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/uninstall-restore-windows-10-builtin-apps
You can uninstall bloatware built in apps easily through powershell, I never use the windows store. My friend got forza and it's nothing but a buggy mess of a port plus it's nowhere near cheap anyways.

 

[Bones]

All I can say is it literally took about 5 seconds to download the newest version, no prob to do at all.

Voted "No" because it isn't a necessity and the man himself has spoken - That's really what counts anyway.

 

[Naki]

No that's wrong.
https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/uninstall-restore-windows-10-builtin-apps
You can uninstall bloatware built in apps easily through powershell, I never use the windows store. My friend got forza and it's nothing but a buggy mess of a port plus it's nowhere near cheap anyways.

Thanks, but NO, thanks! I like and use the Windows Store, because apps that are otherwise present for download elsewhere too update automatically this way.
And if I use them from their websites, I need to remember to check for updates, which is a hassle.
Examples - Evernote, Slack, iTunes but many others too. Also, I do not like to cripple my PCs by removing vital functions of the Windows 10 OS.

RE Forza, you are missing the point. Forza is not just 1 game, but lots of games - for example, Forza Motorsport 6, 7 and Forza Horizon 3 and 4 are all in the Windows Store.
RE pricing, you are correct it is not cheap, so may not be everybody's cup of tea (especially if you do not play racing games anyway).
For the record, I have purchased none of the Forza games, but it is good to know they are there.

All I can say is it literally took about 5 seconds to download the newest version, no prob to do at all.

Voted "No" because it isn't a necessity and the man himself has spoken - That's really what counts anyway.

Nope. It may be OK to you, but some of us use 3 or more PCs every day, so multiply that time a LOT of times to get the time I need to update.
Anyway, what I tend to do is upload the latest GPU-Z version to some Cloud such as Dropbox, then I can install it easier on any 2nd/3rd/etc PCs.

 

[EarthDog]

Nope. It may be OK to you, but some of us use 3 or more PCs every day, so multiply that time a LOT of times to get the time I need to update.
Anyway, what I tend to do is upload the latest GPU-Z version to some Cloud such as Dropbox, then I can install it easier on any 2nd/3rd/etc PCs.

I would imagine only a reviewer or other .0001% of users (such as a beta tester) would need to update GPUz on that many PCs. While we all know it is quicker to have an automatic update of some sort, let's not forget that for the overwhelming majority this is a 20s thing, literally 3/4 clicks. That and unless there is a new card or a bug fix that happens to affect that user, there isn't a need to upgrade to each version. For example, I skipped out on this version solely due to the inclusion of a button for a contest. I don't like that kind of thing on software. I'd rather pay for it than to have things like that injected into the app.

To each their own.

 

[qubit]

Just a general observation for everyone: I can understand @W1zzard not wanting to do this without a clear payoff somewhere, because of the extra maintenance overhead etc, but I can't understand why users wouldn't want more free options and are so vociferous against it. Remember, my proposal was to have it in addition to what we have now, not replace it. It's like turkeys voting for Christmas. Bizarre.

 

[Bones]

@Naki
With respect:
The man himself said "No" so any continued arguing about it either way is a mute point.

I do understand why you'd want it that way but it's out of our hands, that being the crux of anything else from here on.

And I'll be honest - Personally I don't want steam having anything to do with getting it updated or just to get a copy of the program itself.
Same with the Win store and no, I don't run Win 10 to worry about it.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Thanks, but NO, thanks!

Do you even read? You were spreading BS, re-read my message. You said the windows store will "still be there" if you don't use it - you can remove that crap like I've done, I don't care how you feel about it - it's utter trash in my eyes and it CAN be removed and your wrong the fact it can't be removed as said here:

by using Windows 10 you are in fact using Windows Store anyway (behind the scenes), so even if you avoid it, it is there.

 

[Naki]

OKay, to be clearer why I say this - such removal is not something Microsoft endorses and recommends, so no bullshit here except from YOUR side.
Also, it will NOT make your Windows 10 PCs run faster or be more secure in any way.
None of that can or will happen. You are free to use whatever amount of "tweaks"/removals as you wish, which with such powerful PCs as yours makes no sense at all, but this is up to you. I will never do any such tweaks, so stop recommending it.

IF you do not like the Windows Store, you can always go back to Windows 7, or Vista, or WinXP or whatever.

EDIT: Experts from a popular offline/online magazine tried to block Windows 10 Internet access gradually, stopping its many IP address ranges Windows 10 OS contacts (send data to/receives data from).
After a certain stage of this, Windows 10 became unusable - most of its functions stopped working.
So, I do not mind Microsoft ~~harvesting~~ my data and my "device" use habits - if you mind this, see a better OS choice above.
Yes, I have nothing to hide. Google harvests much more data than Microsoft anyway, and I use Google and Gmail all the time.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

so no bullshit here except from YOUR side.

Troll? You've literally contradicted your point saying it can't be removed imao.

such removal is not something Microsoft endorses and recommends

Boo-hoo you want a certificate? Of course they want you to use their bloatware trash.

IF you do not like the Windows Store, you can always go back to Windows 7, or Vista, or WinXP or whatever.

No thanks I've uninstalled it.

None of that can or will happen. You are free to use whatever amount of "tweaks"/removals as you wish, which with such powerful PCs makes no sense at all, but this is up to you. I will never do any such tweaks, so stop recommending it.

I never said you should, work upon your reading comprehension skills for the new year perhaps? You said it wasn't possible when it is and you went full microsoft suck up. And it does make sense with "such powerful Pcs" because I'll utilize my system how I please and you have no say In what I do with my windows 10 installation.