GRAH! ok now that i've gotten that out i'll tell you the problem I've been using this shitzo wifi usb arilink dealie for the last week, and it finally pissed me off so much that i'm going to return it (it continuously crashed my computer). So i pull the thing out and plug in the ethernet cable to my intergrated motherboard adapter (nforce4, gigabit). Problem is, it connects to the router, but i can't get online/ping other local computes/ access the router. The router itself cannot see my computer on the network. So i uninstalled the wifi networking device and all its software and drivers, same issue. Uninstalled and reinstalled nforce ethernet drivers, a little better (getting a better ip address, something more normal. But the domain was still way off and i still can't connect). Also, connecting it under Linux (FC6) is slow as heck, but that could just be the lack of proper drivers for it. Anything i missed? Suggestions? i'm gonna pop in an old Intel pci one, too tired and i've run out of ideas.