Hey guys! Not sure if this is the right forum but I'll give it a shot. Recently, I have once again started playing Gran Turismo 5 with a Steering wheel and stick shift to prepare me in driving. So far I'm doing great, I finally learned how to properly shift gears, driving techniques, proper in-and-out of turns and braking. Now I'm kinda interested in learning how to drift in GT5 just for fun. Playing on arcade mode first, kinda want to get the general feel first. Usually I try out with the HKS CT230R (4WD) or the RX-7 with racing hard at the rear and racing medium at the front. Everything else is off and ABS is off too. I end up in the grass or spin out usually.. any tips or tricks? thanks guys!