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Very bad Port.

look my Rig, i get CODWAW with max settings, 16X of AF and 8X of AA, NFS undercover with the same things and this games runs very fast, smooth playing, no glitches, then i put this GTA4 on my pc and get medium settings, at 20 FPS:wtf:.... or lower.... :banghead: BAD PORT; BAD GAME

thats my opinion.
I hope you do know that all the games are not made on the same 3D Engine.

Alkso I do hope that it takes more graphical power to render 30 objects + the whole city ( pedestrians +cars+ other buildings) in GTA 4 than rendering about 5 cars and buildings and a small city in NFS Undercover , or 10 enemies and some foilage in CODWAW and a limited area .
 
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i keep getting alot of missing textures with my sli gx2's so i am waiting for another patch

im so tired off getting bad ports
 

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coded for console, which are Non X86 and they dont take time to optimize code cause to them its about quantity and not quality.
 
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I think it's a good port my self all things considered. Ok it has it's problems but so do many other games which turned out great ones later on.


I'm just glad they had the balls to pull this game of as it must of took a hell load of time to do. Pisses me off when people say HL2 was so good i did not think so all the loading all the time before you knew it you had to load a new area.

There's no pleasing people these days and there's always some body to complain like they did about fallout 3 Oblivion and what ever game thats come out.

In the end maybe you should of waited before buying it as it's always a risk buying a game thats ported.

People have given numerous and valid examples of how it's a bad port; why don't you tell us some examples of how it's a good one?

It's true that there's no pleasing people these days, as the saying goes with women too, however look at the PC consumer percentile that's dissapointing in GTA IV. We're talking numbers like over 90%. That's worse than Crysis was, yet Crysis, despite a slight bit of unoptimized coding (probably due to new hardware popping up during development), was not a port, it was just simply demanding, and for some they didn't care, because they were too busy playing with themselves while watching the visuals!

As for your last comment...wait till when to buy it? Why should there be a risk when buying a game that's ported? How about developers stop being lazy **** asses and stop porting altogether?

The problem with developers is that they are controlled by corporate bozos with some grandeur vision for their product(much like some over the top interior decorator with a lisp named Jonas), and this means that whatever experience or ideas they have, will be squandered for the sake of quantity over quality. You see it all the time with MMOs, Age of Conan anyone?

Rockstar used to be one of the few development teams that ran their own show, and came out of nowhere to produce games in their own vision, without needless restraint. The bigger Rockstar has become, the worse their games have become.

There's no coincidence to it.
 

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RockStar Game botching= Midnight Club 3, GTA 4 and Table Tennis, Unsure of San Andreas.

People have given numerous and valid examples of how it's a bad port; why don't you tell us some examples of how it's a good one?

It's true that there's no pleasing people these days, as the saying goes with women too, however look at the PC consumer percentile that's dissapointing in GTA IV. We're talking numbers like over 90%. That's worse than Crysis was, yet Crysis, despite a slight bit of unoptimized coding (probably due to new hardware popping up during development), was not a port, it was just simply demanding, and for some they didn't care, because they were too busy playing with themselves while watching the visuals!

As for your last comment...wait till when to buy it? Why should there be a risk when buying a game that's ported? How about developers stop being lazy **** asses and stop porting altogether?

The problem with developers is that they are controlled by corporate bozos with some grandeur vision for their product(much like some over the top interior decorator with a lisp named Jonas), and this means that whatever experience or ideas they have, will be squandered for the sake of quantity over quality. You see it all the time with MMOs, Age of Conan anyone?

Rockstar used to be one of the few development teams that ran their own show, and came out of nowhere to produce games in their own vision, without needless restraint. The bigger Rockstar has become, the worse their games have become.

There's no coincidence to it.
 

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People have given numerous and valid examples of how it's a bad port; why don't you tell us some examples of how it's a good one?.
To me the playability is better than SA and it does actually looks better than SA. Problem is most of the time people want miracles these days and start imagining some crazy shit.

No loading during playing ( this is some thing that makes this kind of game extremely hard to make)
Graphics are a improvement over SA and then some ( IF AA gets fixed it be even better ).
The roads are better in GTA 4 more bumps and such
More stuff that can be knocked over
Better police ( AI ) and work better than they did in SA. Plus other AI work great too.
Example: Police will try to cut you off and arrest you. AI take cover.
Physics are much improved over SA.
Car damage is much improved.

It's true that there's no pleasing people these days, as the saying goes with women too, however look at the PC consumer percentile that's dissapointing in GTA IV. We're talking numbers like over 90%. That's worse than Crysis was, yet Crysis, despite a slight bit of unoptimized coding (probably due to new hardware popping up during development), was not a port, it was just simply demanding, and for some they didn't care, because they were too busy playing with themselves while watching the visuals!
Well rule 1 is that your always wrong(weman). Crysis ? what a laugh now your talking of crap and boring games that have no real playability and is just about graphics and then people wounder why there's no playability in games.

As for your last comment...wait till when to buy it? Why should there be a risk when buying a game that's ported? How about developers stop being lazy **** asses and stop porting altogether?
And people would still complain lol..

What probably happened is that they added textures and stuff to the game as well to make more people happy as they always expect it be better than what it's ported from.


There's a risk in buying any game these days for example FC3. Thank GOD i did not buy that game..


The problem with developers is that they are controlled by corporate bozos with some grandeur vision for their product(much like some over the top interior decorator with a lisp named Jonas), and this means that whatever experience or ideas they have, will be squandered for the sake of quantity over quality. You see it all the time with MMOs, Age of Conan anyone?
Sad but true and is the reason i hate buying EA or Atari games.

Rockstar used to be one of the few development teams that ran their own show, and came out of nowhere to produce games in their own vision, without needless restraint. The bigger Rockstar has become, the worse their games have become.

There's no coincidence to it
Yeah well for a game like this to be on the shelfs of most country's is very surprising at the least. Same happens with every thing made today if it's not costs or a publisher wanting a dead line. They did what they could in the time frame they had, people could be happy that EA or Atari are not the publisher at least there some hope of a patch or patches to fix what is wrong with the game as EA would just leave it and let you suck it up.

If i am mad at any thing with Rockstar is that they rushed the patch WAY to fast.
 
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The performance is fine. For a game this immersive/huge you have to expect to use some crunching power. Just because they designed the console version for the console, and have options for those with huge hardware doesn't mean that everyone is going to be able to play it on all high settings.
 
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How badly is this going to run on a Pentium D@2.8GHz, 1.5Gb RAM and an Nvidia 6200 LE with 256Mb VRAM?
Would I be safe making a £10 bet with my friend saying he needs a new graphics card for it to run well (we're talking minimum settings here)?
 
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How badly is this going to run on a Pentium D@2.8GHz, 1.5Gb RAM and an Nvidia 6200 LE with 256Mb VRAM?
Would I be safe making a £10 bet with my friend saying he needs a new graphics card for it to run well (we're talking minimum settings here)?
absolutely, he won't get more than 5 fps imo
make a 50 bet , that he needs a new system
 
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Lol, Ok then. Cheers, that way I'll be able to afford the game myself (I'll bet his copy of the game on it). He's on XP too but meh.
 
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like some over the top interior decorator with a lisp named Jonas
bloody brilliant! are you talking from experience newconroer? :roll:
 
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cant you post anything else besides video links?

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How badly is this going to run on a Pentium D@2.8GHz, 1.5Gb RAM and an Nvidia 6200 LE with 256Mb VRAM?
Would I be safe making a £10 bet with my friend saying he needs a new graphics card for it to run well (we're talking minimum settings here)?
I doubt it'll even start after all the minimum specs ask for a 7900 or X1900. It runs on my spare rig with a 7900GS but @ 800x600 with minimum everything and it's not smooth not by a long shot.
 
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It is supposedly running but VERY badly as in it's only giving him outlines and he's saying everything's gone blue, not sure if he means like a photo negative though.
 

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The Pentium D is below minimum spec as well as the 6200. Don't bother installing the game on that system.
 
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He claims it's running but only in safe mode at very minimum settings and the GPU's rending about a 10th of what it should be so yeah, he needs an upgrade.
 
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Given the consensus that GTA4 is a botch and rude violation of customer goodwill (all that DRM, securerom and forced online stuff), I ask you this question:

1./ Is GTA San Andreas worth buying (today) since I aint going down the GTA4 path

(Shame really, because GTA4 sure DOES LOOK good. I'd really like to jack around in a virtual NY. Been a long time since I was there).
 

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GTA SA is totally worth buying if you can get it for cheap. I pre-ordered GTA IV on Steam and got GTA VC for free. The couple days I played Vice City, I had a blast. San Andreas is better graphically than VC and plays very smooth on the PC.
 
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I love SA, plus all the mods......... It still takes some crunching power to do SA if you want the pretties. At 1680X1050 it made my X1800XT cry, and the HD3870 palyed it smooth.
 

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Anyone playing Multiplayer yet? It's very fun!
 
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Given the consensus that GTA4 is a botch and rude violation of customer goodwill (all that DRM, securerom and forced online stuff), I ask you this question:

1./ Is GTA San Andreas worth buying (today) since I aint going down the GTA4 path

(Shame really, because GTA4 sure DOES LOOK good. I'd really like to jack around in a virtual NY. Been a long time since I was there).
San Andreas is a good game. Some really amusing parts to the storyline. SA is great for a free for all too - the push bikes and planes are fantastic.

I think GTA4 is better when it comes to fun in the cars though
 
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i just reinstalled SA meaning to give it a go while playing gta4 ,but it looked that bad imo i just couldnt play it and ended up uninstalling it again.

i even installed some hi res texture mods etc and compared with gta4 it still looked terrible.
 

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I think GTA IV looks great! Awesome game, I play it as much as I can.:toast: