gts 450 low profile

[LittleLizard]

Seems like palit have nothing better to do other than make an overpowered low profile card that IMO very few people if any will actually use.

Palit NE5S4500F0601 GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 12...

 

[afw]

Seems like palit have nothing better to do other than make an overpowered low profile card that IMO very few people if any will actually use.

Palit NE5S4500F0601 GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 12...

Palit Readies Low-Profile GeForce GTS 450 1 GB ...

 

[LittleLizard]

didnt even noticed that was already posted. sorry

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Seems like palit have nothing better to do other than make an overpowered low profile card that IMO very few people if any will actually use.

Well, about as many people as those who would use the HD5770 Low Profile from Powercolor.

There are many people using low-profile cases for home theater pcs, just check here.

 

[wolf]

hmm I don't see any SLi finger on the card but the box still has SLi written on it, with lower end cards is it possible to SLi with no connector? like over the pci-e bus..

 

[Easy Rhino]

Sorry for the long post, I love to see new LP hardware but don't understand why everyone insists LP hardware needs to be single slot as well, so frustrating....

i think low profile is unfortunately a misnomer. regaurdless of what the official definition of it is, i will still not consider a dual slot vga card "low profile."

 

[wolf]

i think low profile is unfortunately a misnomer. regaurdless of what the official definition of it is, i will still not consider a dual slot vga card "low profile."

It really is nice that it fits in slimmer cases, but I hear you on the annoyance that it takes up two slots. think about a Mini-ITX build that you mighthave wanted a LP 5750/GTS450 in, some cases just might not be able to afford that extra space.

On the other hand personally I dont mind it at all, at least a dual slot cooler will be able to run more silently/cool more effectively... one would assume.

what I dont understand is why LP cards arent made longer to accomodate a better SS cooler... the 5750/GTS450 LP are really quite short too, would be interesting to see a SS/LP variant the length of say.. a 5850 or even GTX470

 

[zithe]

A lot of mini-ITX boards with PCIe have the slot at the very edge of the board. Might be problematic depending on the case.

 

[Nate_HTPC]

SLI Bridges are not required for many cards but it appears that scaling is poor when data is transferred over the PCI-E bus. A few posts found from a quick Google search ("sli with no connector") suggest that the low bandwidth requirements of lower-end cards will allow better chatter between the cards. It seems that higher performance cards use more bandwidth during operation and will spend more time "talking" than rendering.

This sounds reasonable but I have not seen any hard numbers that actually support this, benchmarks anyone?

 

[Nate_HTPC]

Rhino, this is pretty easy... There are two basic parameters for a PC card, width (measured in how many slots it takes up) and height (full height or low profile). These two measurements are independent. The card in question IS low profile AND a dual slot.

And yes, dual slot cards may not fit in the smallest of cases but that is the trade off for using that case, only single slot cards. If that's the situation make sure you get a case that will house a full height card so you can at least cram in a 5770. If you want performance you need to have the space to accommodate the hardware, if not vertical then horizontal but you do have to pick one.

So, to break it down AGAIN:

--Choose your hardware and make room for it, if you want a performance card but only leave room for a LP/SS you are out of luck, you get a 5500 series or a low numbered 200 series, tough luck... (the case I chose has 4 LP slots, the potential for two dual slot cards in SLI/CFX)

--If there is a question as to whether or not a card is a low profile card try putting it in a low profile case, card fits it's low profile... If there are not enough slots, guess what, you picked the wrong case, see my first note and try again...

--Low profile is not a misnomer, the bracket is defined to be 3.118" tall, this has been the case since Feb 14, 2000 when the specification was released by the PCI-SIG. @rhino, You can consider a porcupine a horse if you want to, but you'll be the only person riding one... When everyone uses the correct terminology it just makes everything easier and saves some confusion.

This is about as clear as it gets folks...

 

[Easy Rhino]

Rhino, this is pretty easy... There are two basic parameters for a PC card, width (measured in how many slots it takes up) and height (full height or low profile). These two measurements are independent. The card in question IS low profile AND a dual slot.

And yes, dual slot cards may not fit in the smallest of cases but that is the trade off for using that case, only single slot cards. If that's the situation make sure you get a case that will house a full height card so you can at least cram in a 5770. If you want performance you need to have the space to accommodate the hardware, if not vertical then horizontal but you do have to pick one.

So, to break it down AGAIN:

--Choose your hardware and make room for it, if you want a performance card but only leave room for a LP/SS you are out of luck, you get a 5500 series or a low numbered 200 series, tough luck... (the case I chose has 4 LP slots, the potential for two dual slot cards in SLI/CFX)

--If there is a question as to whether or not a card is a low profile card try putting it in a low profile case, card fits it's low profile... If there are not enough slots, guess what, you picked the wrong case, see my first note and try again...

--Low profile is not a misnomer, the bracket is defined to be 3.118" tall, this has been the case since Feb 14, 2000 when the specification was released by the PCI-SIG. @Rhino, You can consider a porcupine a horse if you want to, but you'll be the only person riding one... When everyone uses the correct terminology it just makes everything easier and saves some confusion.

This is about as clear as it gets folks...

i know what you are talking about. i know the "real" definition of "low profile." i disagree with the definition. that is all. get over it.

 

[pantherx12]

I also feel "low-profile" Is the wrong word for this type of card by the way.

Due to how the term "low-profile" is used in real life.



But then I also dislike the proper " top/bottom" of a graphics card and what is width and what is length.

Counter intuitive to the language I have learnt.


Anyways <_<

 

[Wile E]

I think they should get away from the low profile moniker, and go with half-height.

 

[Cratzky]

Thats one of the ugliest cards ive seen in a long time

 

[TIGR]

I hope Nate_HTPC wasn't banned for his two posts here, which contributed accurate and useful information.

A low-profile, dual slot card makes sense in for a number of cases and configurations. You really just have to determine the form factor of card best suited to your computer and choose one that will offer your desired level of performance. Some people need single slot, some need low profile, some need both, some need neither. A low-profile G92 makes sense to me for a number of applications.

 

[hat]

I hope Nate_HTPC wasn't banned for his two posts here, which contributed accurate and useful information.

Agreed. While he had an arrogant attitude, he was correct. It IS low profile, because the bracket meets low profile spec, dual-slot or not. While some may feel that putting a dual slot cooler on a low profile card doesn't make it a true low-profile card, that's a matter of opinion and it is still low-profile no matter which way you slice it, because the bracket is designed to fit into a low-profile case and thus meets spec, doesn't matter how many slots it takes up.

A low-profile, dual slot card makes sense in for a number of cases and configurations. You really just have to determine the form factor of card best suited to your computer and choose one that will offer your desired level of performance. Some people need single slot, some need low profile, some need both, some need neither. A low-profile G92 makes sense to me for a number of applications.

Sure. While G92 is a bit outdated, I think Fermi could do a great job to take its place. Fermi runs hot and gulps down shittons of power when you load it up with 480 shaders and slap tons of memory on, but if you scaled it down to say... 128 shaders with 512MB-1GB memory, it could be pretty efficent and would probably run cool enough to tack a single clot cooler on.

 

[Easy Rhino]

he was banned for harassing me via PM after i asked him to stop trolling the thread. i would not have done so had he been a long time member who contributes normally.

 

[wolf]

A low-profile G92 makes sense to me for a number of applications.

I'm pretty sure that's what this card aims to replace, the GTS250, as the top dog G92 there ever was. I'm also fairly certain it made it to low profile too in a downclocked form of a GTS250, however if memory serves it was also dual slot. I'll try dig it up.

EDIT: yep twas a Sparkle GTS250 - http://www.sparkle.com.tw/News/SPGTS250LP/SPGTS250_LP_en.html

clocks lowered to 600 core 1500 shaders, and memory down to 1800 from 2200.

Sure. While G92 is a bit outdated, I think Fermi could do a great job to take its place. Fermi runs hot and gulps down shittons of power when you load it up with 480 shaders and slap tons of memory on, but if you scaled it down to say... 128 shaders with 512MB-1GB memory, it could be pretty efficent and would probably run cool enough to tack a single clot cooler on.

I think they couldhave gotten away with a single slot cooler on this one, by just making it from better materials, like copper with a vapor chamber too.

Also as the chip is natively 192 sp's they could well cut it down to 144 sp's, and/or lower clockspeeds to get it cooler for a single slot cooler.