• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

GTX 1060 Notebook Power Throttles at only 60 degrees

Joined
Oct 4, 2021
Messages
54 (0.96/day)
I have a GL503VM Laptop with 7700HQ and GTX 1060 GPU. It was working fine until recently. I dont know why but the CPU works very fine and gets the normal score in all benchmarks. But something is wrong with the GPU.

1) The GPU never exceeds 60 degrees in Furmark or other benchmarks or in any games.

2) Furmark FPS is 30 in 1080p and thats very low for 1060.

3) The core clock gets the 1400 mhz but in a few seconds drops to 100, 20,, 300 and then averages 500 mhz during the stress test.

4) GPU-Z says "perlfimit cause "power".

wewqedasdasd.png


This is the screenshot after like 10 minutes of stress test. As you see, its NOT normal. The GPU doesnt get enough power.

5) I reinstalled windows, reinstalled old bios, DDU in safe mode and reinstalled old drivers. I installed year 2018 drivers, and then year 2019 drivers and then the latest drivers.. Tried max performance in nvidia control panel. Nothing works.

What might be causing this? I suspect this: I opened the laptop and cleaned it several times, i repasted the heatsinks and cleaned the fans. While removing heatsinks, some thermal pads might be damaged. Is it that vrm or vrams are heating because of improper thermal pads and they limit the power available?? And since hwinfo only shows core gpu temp, i dont see it?

Might this be the cause? If so, i will buy new pads and try. But if not, i dont want to because pads are really expensive.

This is nvidia-smi query result:

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 430.64 Driver Version: 430.64 CUDA Version: 10.2 |
|-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
| GPU Name TCC/WDDM | Bus-Id Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan Temp Perf Pwr:Usage/Cap| Memory-Usage | GPU-Util Compute M. |
|===============================+======================+======================|
| 0 GeForce GTX 1060 WDDM | 00000000:01:00.0 On | N/A |
| N/A 51C P0 23W / N/A | 406MiB / 6144MiB | 0% Default |
+-------------------------------+----------------------+----------------------+
TDP limit is n/a?
 
Joined
Aug 25, 2021
Messages
787 (8.20/day)
Location
Thailand
System Name Shoebox
Processor 3600x
Motherboard Msi b550m Mortar +WiFi
Cooling Cryorig m9
Memory Hyperx c16 3200 2x8gb
Video Card(s) Powercolor rx570 4gb
Storage WD black sn750 256gb (OS), crucial mx500 1tb(storage),Hitatchi ?? 7200rpm 500gb(Temp files)
Display(s) Samsung 65" TU7100
Case Zzaw b3
Audio Device(s) Yamaha rx-v363
Power Supply Corsair sf750
Mouse Logitech g300s
Keyboard Custom Skyloong sk64s
Software Windows 10 Pro
What paste did you use? Laptops require certain types of paste though I can't imagine mx4 causing this. Gpu's can be very temperamental about cooling these days not only thermal throttling at max load but also due to cooling not dealing with temperature spikes. I'm sure someone more knowledgeable might have a better answer for you give it time.
 
Joined
Oct 4, 2021
Messages
54 (0.96/day)
I used mx4, the temps are never a problem. It never goes past beyond 60 degrees.
 
Joined
Nov 25, 2019
Messages
408 (0.56/day)
Location
Taiwan
Processor i5-9600K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X
Cooling Scythe Mugen 5 S
Memory Micron Ballistix Sports LT 3000 8G*4
Video Card(s) MSI 2070 Ventus
Storage Adata SX6000 Pro 512G, Kingston A2000 1T
Display(s) Gigabyte M32Q
Case Phanteks Eclipse P350X
Audio Device(s) Edifier C3X
Power Supply Super Flower Leadex Gold 650W
Mouse Razer Basilisk V2
Keyboard Ducky ONE 2 Horizon
4) GPU-Z says "perlfimit cause "power".
This already tells you your card is limited by power, the laptop probably has a very low power limit for the GPU
 
Joined
Oct 4, 2021
Messages
54 (0.96/day)
This already tells you your card is limited by power, the laptop probably has a very low power limit for the GPU
It was working very fine. So the laptop has no inherent limits.. A/C Adapter maybe dead?
 
Joined
Nov 25, 2019
Messages
408 (0.56/day)
Location
Taiwan
Processor i5-9600K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X
Cooling Scythe Mugen 5 S
Memory Micron Ballistix Sports LT 3000 8G*4
Video Card(s) MSI 2070 Ventus
Storage Adata SX6000 Pro 512G, Kingston A2000 1T
Display(s) Gigabyte M32Q
Case Phanteks Eclipse P350X
Audio Device(s) Edifier C3X
Power Supply Super Flower Leadex Gold 650W
Mouse Razer Basilisk V2
Keyboard Ducky ONE 2 Horizon
No, it is the power limit on the mobo, every laptop mobo has it's power/temperature limits for the CPU or GPU on it.
 
Joined
Oct 4, 2021
Messages
54 (0.96/day)
No, it is the power limit on the mobo, every laptop mobo has it's power/temperature limits for the CPU or GPU on it.
So how come it stopped fully working? It was getting far more fps just a few weeks ago.
 
Joined
Aug 25, 2021
Messages
787 (8.20/day)
Location
Thailand
System Name Shoebox
Processor 3600x
Motherboard Msi b550m Mortar +WiFi
Cooling Cryorig m9
Memory Hyperx c16 3200 2x8gb
Video Card(s) Powercolor rx570 4gb
Storage WD black sn750 256gb (OS), crucial mx500 1tb(storage),Hitatchi ?? 7200rpm 500gb(Temp files)
Display(s) Samsung 65" TU7100
Case Zzaw b3
Audio Device(s) Yamaha rx-v363
Power Supply Corsair sf750
Mouse Logitech g300s
Keyboard Custom Skyloong sk64s
Software Windows 10 Pro
I used mx4, the temps are never a problem. It never goes past beyond 60 degrees
I'm talking temp spikes not max temps. As far as laptops I have very little knowledge as I've only owned industrial ones but others have posted many topics on the forums and I seem to recall mx4 being a bad choice for laptops. Maybe someone else can enlighten you as to why and what choices are better.
 
Joined
Oct 27, 2020
Messages
45 (0.11/day)
System Name Aorus X7 DT v7
Processor intel Core i7 7820HK
Cooling Dual Fan with Six Heatpipes
Memory 32 GB (2x16 GB @ 2400MHz CL-16)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte GTX 1080
Storage 512 GB NVMe SSD + 1 TB HDD
Display(s) 17 inch 4K 60 Hz IPS with G-SYNC with 100% Adobe RGB
Audio Device(s) Quad Speakers with Subwoofer
Power Supply 265 W (Charger)
Look at total system power consumption from the wall adapter while stress testing it. The charger itself could also be another suspect so look for signs that indicate the laptop isn't being fed the appropriate amount of power.
 
Joined
Oct 4, 2021
Messages
54 (0.96/day)
Look at total system power consumption from the wall adapter while stress testing it. The charger itself could also be another suspect so look for signs that indicate the laptop isn't being fed the appropriate amount of power.
How do i check total system power consumption?
 
Joined
Aug 25, 2021
Messages
787 (8.20/day)
Location
Thailand
System Name Shoebox
Processor 3600x
Motherboard Msi b550m Mortar +WiFi
Cooling Cryorig m9
Memory Hyperx c16 3200 2x8gb
Video Card(s) Powercolor rx570 4gb
Storage WD black sn750 256gb (OS), crucial mx500 1tb(storage),Hitatchi ?? 7200rpm 500gb(Temp files)
Display(s) Samsung 65" TU7100
Case Zzaw b3
Audio Device(s) Yamaha rx-v363
Power Supply Corsair sf750
Mouse Logitech g300s
Keyboard Custom Skyloong sk64s
Software Windows 10 Pro
I'm not sure if there's something inside hwmonitor bit I normally do it the layman's way with a clamp meter and a separated IEC cable.
 
Joined
Oct 27, 2020
Messages
45 (0.11/day)
System Name Aorus X7 DT v7
Processor intel Core i7 7820HK
Cooling Dual Fan with Six Heatpipes
Memory 32 GB (2x16 GB @ 2400MHz CL-16)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte GTX 1080
Storage 512 GB NVMe SSD + 1 TB HDD
Display(s) 17 inch 4K 60 Hz IPS with G-SYNC with 100% Adobe RGB
Audio Device(s) Quad Speakers with Subwoofer
Power Supply 265 W (Charger)
How do i check total system power consumption?
A watt meter is best suited to get accurate data but you probably don't have that and might need to buy one. It ain't too expensive plus it's a great tool for troubleshooting such stuff for laptops or whatnot. It's like 15ish bucks IIRC.
 
Joined
Sep 27, 2021
Messages
62 (0.98/day)
Location
Portugal
Processor Ryzen 7 5800x
Motherboard Msi b450 tomahawk max II
Cooling Artic liquid freezer II 240mm
Memory 2x8gb Tforce delta r 3200mhz cl16
Video Card(s) Gigabyte Rtx 2060 oc
Storage M.2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250gb + 1tb ssd
Case Corsair 275r airflow
Audio Device(s) Hyperx
Power Supply Seasonic core gc 650w 80 plus gold
Mouse Zowie ec2-a
Keyboard Trust
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores Cinebench r20: SC=631 MC=6146 Cinebench r23: SC=1628 MC=15672 CPU-Z: SC=675 MC= 6897
Try with msi afterburner and put the power limit slide to the max and test if it works
 
Joined
Sep 27, 2021
Messages
62 (0.98/day)
Location
Portugal
Processor Ryzen 7 5800x
Motherboard Msi b450 tomahawk max II
Cooling Artic liquid freezer II 240mm
Memory 2x8gb Tforce delta r 3200mhz cl16
Video Card(s) Gigabyte Rtx 2060 oc
Storage M.2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250gb + 1tb ssd
Case Corsair 275r airflow
Audio Device(s) Hyperx
Power Supply Seasonic core gc 650w 80 plus gold
Mouse Zowie ec2-a
Keyboard Trust
Software Windows 10
Benchmark Scores Cinebench r20: SC=631 MC=6146 Cinebench r23: SC=1628 MC=15672 CPU-Z: SC=675 MC= 6897
Doesnt work. Power limit slide isnt even selectable

You have access to bios? What you update recently? You say a few weeks ago works nice so I think something you install or update limit your gpu.
 
Joined
Oct 4, 2021
Messages
54 (0.96/day)
You have access to bios? What you update recently? You say a few weeks ago works nice so I think something you install or update limit your gpu.
If that was the case, installing windows would have fix the issue? no?
 
Joined
Mar 15, 2021
Messages
30 (0.12/day)
This is exactly how thermal throttling looks like - I think you got it right with some spot overheating with missing thermal pad (you ruled out OS issues by reinstalling and BIOS by reverting). Have you noticed the issue right after you cleaned the laptop?
Don't think thermal pads are really that pricey - you can buy a big one and make it into smaller ones as you need.
 
Joined
Oct 4, 2021
Messages
54 (0.96/day)
This is exactly how thermal throttling looks like - I think you got it right with some spot overheating with missing thermal pad (you ruled out OS issues by reinstalling and BIOS by reverting). Have you noticed the issue right after you cleaned the laptop?
Don't think thermal pads are really that pricey - you can buy a big one and make it into smaller ones as you need.
How is that thermal throttling when gpu is only 60 degrees? Undetected vrm overheating?

And it says "power thorttling" in the sensor?
 
Joined
Oct 19, 2020
Messages
109 (0.27/day)
System Name PowerSpec 1720 (Clevo PB70EF-G)
Processor i7-8750H (UV)
Motherboard PB70EF-G
Cooling Air
Memory 32GB 3000MHz 16-18-18-36 1T (OC)
Video Card(s) 115W RTX 2070 8GB GDDR6 (OC/UV)
Storage 500GB WD Black NVME
Display(s) 144Hz G-Sync 17.3" IPS
Case PowerSpec
Audio Device(s) Sound Blaster Pro-Gaming X
Power Supply 230W
Mouse Logitech G502 Hero
Keyboard Per-key RGB
Software M$ Windows 10 Pro, Throttle Stop 9295, MSi Afterburner, ParkControl
Benchmark Scores CB R23 - 8173/1105, CB R20 - 3172, Fire Strike - 18140, Time Spy - 8287
If the pads cooling the VRM's were damaged it could be the cause of this power throttling. The VRM temps are not reported on that laptop, and you could be fine for GPU core but overheating the power delivery components.

Try putting new pads on and retesting. Some people even use thermal paste on the VRM's but BE SURE it is non-conductive and it can be very messy. Pads are really ideal.
 
Joined
Oct 4, 2021
Messages
54 (0.96/day)
If the pads cooling the VRM's were damaged it could be the cause of this power throttling. The VRM temps are not reported on that laptop, and you could be fine for GPU core but overheating the power delivery components.

Try putting new pads on and retesting. Some people even use thermal paste on the VRM's but BE SURE it is non-conductive and it can be very messy. Pads are really ideal.
I have some gaps in the pads. Shall i just fill them with the paste?

If the pads cooling the VRM's were damaged it could be the cause of this power throttling. The VRM temps are not reported on that laptop, and you could be fine for GPU core but overheating the power delivery components.

Try putting new pads on and retesting. Some people even use thermal paste on the VRM's but BE SURE it is non-conductive and it can be very messy. Pads are really ideal.
Done that. Didnt work. Repadding and repasting.. Still the same. Whats wrong with this?
 

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
33,200 (6.31/day)
Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
This already tells you your card is limited by power, the laptop probably has a very low power limit for the GPU
Probably a Max Q card

And the chassis has no cooling vents, it's no wonder it's limited

Buy a Brick

Aherm

Contact asus support will you.
 
Joined
Aug 28, 2021
Messages
343 (3.69/day)
Disconnect the battery. And try to run the laptop without it

- First of all that battery voltage looks off , 100% charged at 5 volts?

-second, this behavior you described is sometimes due to constant switching from AC power to Battery power and can for example be caused by :

1- bad ac power (failing charger)
2- dying/bad battery
3- vrm overheating/failing
4- the circuitry that reports power consumption on the gpu is failing or is acting up
 
Joined
Oct 4, 2021
Messages
54 (0.96/day)
Probably a Max Q card

And the chassis has no cooling vents, it's no wonder it's limited

Buy a Brick

Aherm

Contact asus support will you.
Its not a Max-Q version. And the chassis has excellent cooling. As you can see, GPU temps dont even exceed 60 degrees and starts throttling. If it was a cooling issue, than the temp would reach like 90 and then throttle.

Disconnect the battery. And try to run the laptop without it

- First of all that battery voltage looks off , 100% charged at 5 volts?

-second, this behavior you described is sometimes due to constant switching from AC power to Battery power and can for example be caused by :

1- bad ac power (failing charger)
2- dying/bad battery
3- vrm overheating/failing
4- the circuitry that reports power consumption on the gpu is failing or is acting up
I've already tried that. Disconnected the battery and ran on a/c only. The same.

I will re-pad the laptop and see what happens. If that doesnt work, i will buy a new A/C cord. And if that also doesnt work, its probably the GPU is dead...
 
Top