GTX 1070 Reviews

[Vayra86]

I'm not offended, I have just had a different experience than you I guess. While a lot of great PSUs have quite a bit of overhead when it comes to their power delivery but some of them will not allow an inch and probably for good reason. I have electrical training and I have noticed most everything has an official rating but unless it's industrial specially made components it's not rated at 100% for an extended period of time, most will recommend 80% max for 24/7 use, 95% of what you see is allowable in the code book is rated 80%.



Does anyone have any info on this, I am planning on getting a 1070 AIB card. Is it common practice for AIBs to increase the max possible voltage for overclocking? I would like to get one of those if they make em.

If the past is any guide, more than likely they will allow a very small voltage increase (one 'notch' up) but no more than that, unless you are willing to fiddle with BIOS.

 

[LightningJR]

unless you are willing to fiddle with BIOS

not so much with a brand new expensive card

 

[EarthDog]

I'm not offended, I have just had a different experience than you I guess. While a lot of great PSUs have quite a bit of overhead when it comes to their power delivery but some of them will not allow an inch and probably for good reason. I have electrical training and I have noticed most everything has an official rating but unless it's industrial specially made components it's not rated at 100% for an extended period of time, most will recommend 80% max for 24/7 use, 95% of what you see that's allowable in the code book is rated 80%.



Does anyone have any info on this, I am planning on getting a 1070 AIB card. Is it common practice for AIBs to increase the max possible voltage for overclocking? I would like to get one of those if they make em.

And as we said, it wouldn't be maxed out.

 

[gasolina]

to me now it's so confused to do purchase the 1070 SLI set up or wait the 1080TI ( may come this year ?? ) . From my experience i would love to pick a 980TI over a pair of 970/980 because of the vram amount and the huge overclock gain from the 980Ti. I love my previous pair of 980Ti set up but now using a 8560x1440p i love to see extra vram...

 

[trog100]

i think a 980TI has enough vram..

for anyone that already has one it makes sense to buy another if more grunt is required.. or anyone that already has two stick with them..

the same logic probably applies to a pair of 980 cards.. stick with them until 4 gigs of vram is genuinely not enough..

i lust after new stuff but cant really justify buying it just cos it there.. it costs too f-cking much

trog

 

[trog100]

these new cards (in theory) drop the performance price down a level.. we are talking 980 TI performance for the old 980 price.. they also use maybe 30% less power for any given performance level..

currently Nvidia has made a sh-t job of launching them.. they are way under supplied and if you actually want to buy one over priced.. i see the same thing happening with the 1070.. under supplied and over priced if you actually want to buy one..

this has been a semi paper launch with nowhere near enough stock made available.. a 1080 can be bought on ebay (ready to ship) for well over £700 UK pounds.. this is well over $1000 US dollars.. the claimed launch price has been a bit of a con.. for anyone that does actually want to buy one of the f-cking things..

nice cards with a shit launch..

gee whiz a huge demand for such a wonder product.. the reality is Nvidia have failed to supply enough cards to meet the relatively small demand for those willing to pay the high launch price..

trog

 

[hat]

^^That's why it sucks being an early adopter. Even if I had all the money in the world, if something new came out and I wanted it, I'd probably wait a while for the storm to calm down. Wait for the rush to be over, wait for the bugs to get worked out... shit like that.

 

[Shou Miko]

Im not impressed at all, bring HBM2 nothing else.

haha well HBM2 would have shown like a 50% higher price than the current prices and if the benefit ain't same size in performance I can see why Nvidia still chose GDDR5 for the GTX 1070 and GDDR5X for the GTX 1080.

Mby u should wait for GTX 1080 Ti or Titan mby one of them will have HBM2 and be ridiculous priced

 

[Vayra86]

haha well HBM2 would have shown like a 50% higher price than the current prices and if the benefit ain't same size in performance I can see why Nvidia still chose GDDR5 for the GTX 1070 and GDDR5X for the GTX 1080.

Mby u should wait for GTX 1080 Ti or Titan mby one of them will have HBM2 and be ridiculous priced

There's a good chance 1080ti will still run on GDDR5X at somewhat higher speeds, the memory can be rated up to 14.000mhz.

 

[P4-630]

14.000mhz.

I need me some memory and a CPU that can run at these smokin speeds

 

[Vayra86]

I need me some memory and a CPU that can run at these smokin speeds

Run your CPU like that and I'm sure it'll smoke

 

[EarthDog]

the claimed launch price has been a bit of a con.

How is it a con? They set the price, the market dictates how much it will go for. You do not know if NVIDIA is holding stock (and artificially inflating the price - but its not like the profits go to them... these are the AIBs that are raising the price) or whether or not yields for this part are causing the shortage. There isn't a good reason for NVIDIA to hold back stock...so, I certainly wouldn't call it a con... at least on NVIDIAs part as you seem to be alluding to.

 

[ViperXTR]

i can see in our place for custom 1070s to cost 500+ USD or more, asus stix rog 1080 already costs 920 usd here -__-
looks like i wont be able to get a 1070 for a while during the hype time

 

[P4-630]

Well I have 550 Euros laid aside for a MSI GTX1070 Gaming X (with backplate I hope) or an Asus GTX1070 Strix.
I expect it to be enough.

 

[EarthDog]

Why would you get a lightning? You planning on LN2? Save your money and get something not specifically made for such adventures... they will all overclock to around the same on air/water anyway. There are cheaper options out there.

 

[trog100]

How is it a con? They set the price, the market dictates how much it will go for. You do not know if NVIDIA is holding stock (and artificially inflating the price - but its not like the profits go to them... these are the AIBs that are raising the price) or whether or not yields for this part are causing the shortage. There isn't a good reason for NVIDIA to hold back stock...so, I certainly wouldn't call it a con... at least on NVIDIAs part as you seem to be alluding to.

take a look around.. see how many sellers actually have the things for delivery as opposed to pre-order.. look at some of the ready to deliver prices on ebay.. ask on here to see how many members have actually got one..

i am not suggesting Nvidia have deliberate held stock back what i am saying is they have not built up enough stock to make a proper product launch.. their clever founders edition ploy has help them get away with a premature launch..

their reasons.. get the product out as soon as possible and create the impression of huge demand when in truth it isnt there.. this ploy seems to have worked quite well.. its fooled you.. he he

the partners will also target the founders edition price and not the 100 dollars cheaper price.. the 100 dollars cheaper price is part of the con.. it aint the real price..

trog

 

[rtwjunkie]

the partners will also target the founders edition price and not the 100 dollars cheaper price.. the 100 dollars cheaper price is part of the con.. it aint the real price..

Your suspicions are a little too much conspiracy-theory oriented as far as price goes. Yes, the stock is still not there, but so far, the prices of AIB models are less than the founder's edition prices of $699.

AIB models on Newegg are currently going for $649.

My point with the 1080's is there is no reason to think they won't do the same with 1070's

 

[Vayra86]

take a look around.. see how many sellers actually have the things for delivery as opposed to pre-order.. look at some of the ready to deliver prices on ebay.. ask on here to see how many members have actually got one..

i am not suggesting Nvidia have deliberate held stock back what i am saying is they have not built up enough stock to make a proper product launch.. their clever founders edition ploy has help them get away with a premature launch..

their reasons.. get the product out as soon as possible and create the impression of huge demand when in truth it isnt there.. this ploy seems to have worked quite well.. its fooled you.. he he

the partners will also target the founders edition price and not the 100 dollars cheaper price.. the 100 dollars cheaper price is part of the con.. it aint the real price..

trog

They can target whatever they want, free market and all that.

The real question is how many idiots are going to pay for it, and that is really all that matters.

 

[EarthDog]

the partners will also target the founders edition price and not the 100 dollars cheaper price.. the 100 dollars cheaper price is part of the con.. it aint the real price..

We'll see.. I bet there will be a model or two (read: Lightning/Classified/Kinpin/HOF) that may hit that $100 inflated price, but the regular 'gaming' models and others I bet will not.

Your suspicions are a little too much conspiracy-theory oriented as far as price goes. Yes, the stock is still not there, but so far, the prices of AIB models are less than the founder's edition prices of $699.

AIB models on Newegg are currently going for $649.

My point with the 1080's is there is no reason to think they won't do the same with 1070's

LOL, or they are already available and cheaper (just not in stock).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709 601201888&IsNodeId=1&Description=GTX 1080&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=90

 

[trog100]

there is no such things as a fair price.. just a price folks will pay or not pay.. one thing is for sure.. making the founders edition 100 dollars dearer and the only option at launch will considerably lessen the amount of actual buyers at launch.. in short it decreased demand.. its what a higher price does.. lessen demand..

this isnt an accident and it fits in with there not being enough stock available at launch and nvidia being fully aware of this.. not a real paper launch but very close..

as for conspiracy theories.. another ploy to hide what really goes on.. he he..

do bears shit in the woods.. i recon so.. he he

trog

 

[EarthDog]

LOL

 

[ViperXTR]

Why would you get a lightning? You planning on LN2? Save your money and get something not specifically made for such adventures... they will all overclock to around the same on air/water anyway. There are cheaper options out there.

same thoughts if the custom asus and msi gtx 1080's OCing translate to the 1070, id just get a cheap (with decent warranty) well cooled 1070 oc it to ~2ghz and be done with it

 

[ViperXTR]

welp, Zotac GTX 1070 Founders Edition lands in our shore for sale tomorrow, 543 USD '__'

 

[newconroer]

haha well HBM2 would have shown like a 50% higher price than the current prices and if the benefit ain't same size in performance I can see why Nvidia still chose GDDR5 for the GTX 1070 and GDDR5X for the GTX 1080.

Mby u should wait for GTX 1080 Ti or Titan mby one of them will have HBM2 and be ridiculous priced

Apparently 1080 TI is meant to launch with the same price the 1080 is launching now. Maybe HBM2 does cost more, though we wouldn't be paying for it. So either Nvidia is lying or they're taking the hit in the wallet.

My dislike is that so far Pascal isn't a huge improvement over last generation, in any way shape or form. Why is the price of some of these reference cards coming out more than the best third party/AIB modified version of the 980TIs (not even the standard 980s, which were much less)?

You can furnish nearly an entire computer (motherboard, RAM, CPU and power supply) for the same price as a single graphics card. That is silly.

1080/1070 should be sub $500/$400. Let's get back to some realistic prices for single chip graphics cards.

 

[ratirt]

Apparently 1080 TI is meant to launch with the same price the 1080 is launching now. Maybe HBM2 does cost more, though we wouldn't be paying for it. So either Nvidia is lying or they're taking the hit in the wallet.

My dislike is that so far Pascal isn't a huge improvement over last generation, in any way shape or form. Why is the price of some of these reference cards coming out more than the best third party/AIB modified version of the 980TIs (not even the standard 980s, which were much less)?

You can furnish nearly an entire computer (motherboard, RAM, CPU and power supply) for the same price as a single graphics card. That is silly.

1080/1070 should be sub $500/$400. Let's get back to some realistic prices for single chip graphics cards.

Agreed here. The prices are ridiculous for Nvidia cards. I'm waiting for AMD with their gear and see what will the official benchmark say and statistics of the new AMD cards. Maybe then Nvidia prices will drop a bit concerning that AMD is rating Polaris for 199$. Compare to Nvidia this is like nothing. If I were to buy Video card now, i'd still wait for AMD release. Polris has a lot improvements concerning technology AMD make it and power vs performance. It is a great card and who knows how it will OC? besides according to AMD those 2 cards in xfire will outperform 1080. Well that's what AMD says and shows? Will it be that way in all games? I'd wait for the release and test, benchmarks and then we'll have better perspective of what those cards offer