gtx 1080 or rx 5700 xt

[ShurikN]

5700 XT is 15% faster at 1440p, ref vs ref.

Custom 1080 cards are 10% faster than 1080 ref, out of the box and still has 10% perf left in the tank.

Custom 5700 XT gains 1-4%, compared to ref, and has next to nothing left in the tank.
Power increases like crazy when you OC 5700/5700 XT. 2-5% more perf for 20-30% power increase.

They WILL end up around the same performance. With 1080 being more power efficient and cooler / less noisy.

Sad considering 1080 is 3½ years old at this point.

MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X 8 GB Review

MSI's GTX 1080 Gaming X is an overclocked, custom-design variant of the GTX 1080 that doesn't throttle. Its fans are also nearly inaudible in heavy gaming, switching off completely while the card is cool for zero noise output in idle and light gaming.

www.techpowerup.com

A custom 1080 is 5% faster than reference and an additional 8% when overclocked.

Custom 1080s consume more power than a reference, even more when overclocked.

Sorry.

 

[las]

MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X 8 GB Review

MSI's GTX 1080 Gaming X is an overclocked, custom-design variant of the GTX 1080 that doesn't throttle. Its fans are also nearly inaudible in heavy gaming, switching off completely while the card is cool for zero noise output in idle and light gaming.

www.techpowerup.com

A custom 1080 is 5% faster than reference and an additional 8% when overclocked.

Custom 1080s consume more power than a reference, even more when overclocked.

Sorry.

ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT Taichi OC+ Review

The ASRock RX 5700 XT Taichi OC+ is the fastest factory overclocked Navi card we've tested so far. We measured it to run almost 2 GHz real clock on average in our real-life, mixed gaming load. Temperatures are good, too, and the cooler includes idle-fan-stop.

www.techpowerup.com

5700 XT - 112 -> 120 aka 7.15% over reference with max oc on a custom. The best custom 5700 xt that is.


lets use your own link for the 1080:

MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X 8 GB Review

MSI's GTX 1080 Gaming X is an overclocked, custom-design variant of the GTX 1080 that doesn't throttle. Its fans are also nearly inaudible in heavy gaming, switching off completely while the card is cool for zero noise output in idle and light gaming.

www.techpowerup.com

138 -> 160 aka 16% over reference, and there's better custom cards outthere.


Custom 5700 XT w/ OC and Custom 1080 w/ OC will be pretty much identical overall.

And yeah... 5700 XT uses more power. 1080 uses ~200 watts during typical gaming where 5700 XT uses ~225 watts.

OC the 5700 XT and we're talking 275-300 watts - 75 more watts for 2-4% extra performance ... GG

 

[arbiter]

That blower design 5700xt's not worth the hassle. Especially without warranty. Knowing your luck 1080 is from a mining rig.

Agree on that, nvidia ref blower is pretty good but amd's on other hand has a history of being rather lacking. if you can't get that 5700xt in 3rd party cooler i would be warry about it. Looking at review the load is 93c which is a bit hotter then i would personally want a gpu to run on that blower cooler.

 

[ShurikN]

ASRock Radeon RX 5700 XT Taichi OC+ Review

The ASRock RX 5700 XT Taichi OC+ is the fastest factory overclocked Navi card we've tested so far. We measured it to run almost 2 GHz real clock on average in our real-life, mixed gaming load. Temperatures are good, too, and the cooler includes idle-fan-stop.

www.techpowerup.com

5700 XT - 112 -> 120 aka 7.15% over reference with max oc on a custom. The best custom 5700 xt that is.


lets use your own link for the 1080:

MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X 8 GB Review

MSI's GTX 1080 Gaming X is an overclocked, custom-design variant of the GTX 1080 that doesn't throttle. Its fans are also nearly inaudible in heavy gaming, switching off completely while the card is cool for zero noise output in idle and light gaming.

www.techpowerup.com

138 -> 160 aka 16% over reference, and there's better custom cards outthere.


Custom 5700 XT w/ OC and Custom 1080 w/ OC will be pretty much identical overall.

And yeah... 5700 XT uses more power. 1080 uses ~200 watts during typical gaming where 5700 XT uses ~225 watts.

OC the 5700 XT and we're talking 275-300 watts - 75 more watts for 2-4% extra performance ... GG

OK first, even with that 16% OC it wouldnt beat a 5700XT, match it in best case scenarios. And maybe edge out a win in a heavily biased Nvidia title.
Second. You keep promoting this high end OC (needed to match the Navi card), and then post numbers form a stock card.
Third. If a 5700XT uses ~225W then why use overclocking on that card as reference point if all you get is 2% performance for a third more power. And why OC it if it's already beating a 1080.
Fourth. "Better custom cards out there". Yes and they all top out at around 2100MHz, which means there is very little in terms of extra performance compared to the MSI model. If any.

 

[Chomiq]

The seller seems shady, OP knows it, you guys keep arguing about amd vs nv. What's the point?

 

[las]

OK first, even with that 16% OC it wouldnt beat a 5700XT, match it in best case scenarios. And maybe edge out a win in a heavily biased Nvidia title.
Second. You keep promoting this high end OC (needed to match the Navi card), and then post numbers form a stock card.
Third. If a 5700XT uses ~225W then why use overclocking on that card as reference point if all you get is 2% performance for a third more power. And why OC it if it's already beating a 1080.
Fourth. "Better custom cards out there". Yes and they all top out at around 2100MHz, which means there is very little in terms of extra performance compared to the MSI model. If any.

You seem to forget that 5700 XT is new and 1080 is almost 4 years old at this point.

Once again, they end up around the same performance when both are overclocked. 5700 XT consumes 50-75 watts more, max OC vs max OC.

Many 1080 custom cards do 50-75 MHz more than that MSI Gaming X, which was a cheap and mainstream model.

Hell, even the reference 1080 did 2114 MHz, again, according to your own link. Was it the worst 1080 custom review you could find?

 

[eidairaman1]

Werent you gonna buy that Colorful igsme 1070/ti?

The Reference designed 5700XT is the Standard in efficient vrm design, only the cooler is the main gripe however it is better than vega's, only the Asus Strix and Powercolor Red Devil are better.

If you can I'd find a red dragon or pulse.

Otherwise a 580 nitro+, 1070/ti, vega56/64, at this rate. And you know well i can help locate bios files

 

[potato580+]

Werent you gonna buy that Colorful igsme 1070/ti?

The Reference designed 5700XT is the Standard in efficient vrm design, only the cooler is the main gripe however it is better than vega's, only the Asus Strix and Powercolor Red Devil are better.

If you can I'd find a red dragon or pulse.

Otherwise a 580 nitro+, 1070/ti, vega56/64, at this rate. And you know well i can help locate bios files

igame for $170 is suspicious, i think it will broken soon, i will pay for extra $20, inno x2/x4 or palit digital alliance, i still looking for vega 56/64, not so popular on my country, so theres few used card like that, not in the rush anyway, will continue seeking for best deal,

 

[Gin]

You seem to forget that 5700 XT is new and 1080 is almost 4 years old at this point.

Once again, they end up around the same performance when both are overclocked. 5700 XT consumes 50-75 watts more, max OC vs max OC.

Many 1080 custom cards do 50-75 MHz more than that MSI Gaming X, which was a cheap and mainstream model.

Hell, even the reference 1080 did 2114 MHz, again, according to your own link. Was it the worst 1080 custom review you could find?

1080 OC can reach only 5700 OC performance.

Meanwhile, Vega 64 OC reaches 5700XT OC performance in some games.

 

[Vayra86]

hey guys am gonna buy this
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/inno3d-gtx-1070-x2.b3725

$190 used card, seller claim is used since 2018

or should i go for
new retail gtx1660 galax 1click oc for $220 with warranty for sure

Between these two I think definitely the 1660. New card, newer tech, close enough in price and faster.

 

[Cheeseball]

If you can get the GTX 1080 at $160 and you don't mind the older tech (but still viable for 1440p60 and 1080p120 today) go for it.

EDIT: If you can get the RX 5700 XT at around $360 though, it's a no-brainer.

 

[Vayra86]

You seem to forget that 5700 XT is new and 1080 is almost 4 years old at this point.

Once again, they end up around the same performance when both are overclocked. 5700 XT consumes 50-75 watts more, max OC vs max OC.

Many 1080 custom cards do 50-75 MHz more than that MSI Gaming X, which was a cheap and mainstream model.

Hell, even the reference 1080 did 2114 MHz, again, according to your own link. Was it the worst 1080 custom review you could find?

Stop blurting nonsense and derailing this topic. Ref 1080's cannot sustain 2100 mhz even in ideal ambient temps, while a good AIB card can. That's what matters. Peak boost is a useless metric and always has been since GPU Boost 3.0. The real life version for most users in normal ambient and case temps is that they will struggle to maintain 2000mhz. When in doubt, check any TPU review and you will see even the better cooled 1080's lose some bins along the way.

In addition, you say a 1070 is somehow within 12-15% of a (ref?!) 1080. Straight up misinformation, that. Its 20% worst case and the gap's usually bigger - vs stock. Navi is a bit faster - and by as much as 10% OC/OC, and about 15% stock/stock. Not much, but still. Last but not least, 1080 Gaming X is one of the top models and one of the better performers out there. Confused much, or just deliberately trolling? (hint: rhetorical question).

Don't twist reality, its been your thing every time you come here.

To OP: just compare stock vs stock and consider that Navi won't gain much if anything. The rest is bonus really.

 

[potato580+]

dont mind abt old tech, but i care abt the gpu heathly, and yes gtx 1660 sounds a good deal, also fresh newbox & 3years warranty for extra $40 is worth

 

[Cheeseball]

plan to buy for a friend pc rig, whichs one is worthly gpu?
gtx 1080 gigabyte $264 (blower type fan)
gtx 1080 igame triple fan $270
rx 5700 xt msi $271.7(blowr fan)

i try my best to cut the budget, since my friend aint a richguy, but he wanted to try atleash highend experience on gaming

anyway even the rx5700xt consider new product but the seller warn that theres no warranty card, i think likely rejected from factory, only personal warranty for a week
for the gtx, warranty alr expired

Avoid the GTX 1080 blower (unless it's a MSI Aero, apparently their blower is quite nice (60C load on a GTX 1070) for something thats mostly plastic, but no backplate)
$160 to $250 should be the selling range for the GTX 1080s now (at least from what I see in r/hardwareswap)
RX 5700 XT price is good, but no warranty? Screw that.

 

[potato580+]

yes actually i still seeking for grx1080, most cheapest used is in bad shape, i will posting again if i found decent one

 

[Vayra86]

yes actually i still seeking for grx1080, most cheapest used is in bad shape, i will posting again if i found decent one

Its too old man, the only ones you will find are going to look the part, and you've already said you don't want that.

The 1080 is a nice card but its far from unique nowadays. If you want the closest match, find a good 1070ti. Its a bit newer. But still old ish.

 

[las]

Stop blurting nonsense and derailing this topic. Ref 1080's cannot sustain 2100 mhz even in ideal ambient temps, while a good AIB card can. That's what matters. Peak boost is a useless metric and always has been since GPU Boost 3.0. The real life version for most users in normal ambient and case temps is that they will struggle to maintain 2000mhz. When in doubt, check any TPU review and you will see even the better cooled 1080's lose some bins along the way.

In addition, you say a 1070 is somehow within 12-15% of a (ref?!) 1080. Straight up misinformation, that. Its 20% worst case and the gap's usually bigger - vs stock. Navi is a bit faster - and by as much as 10% OC/OC, and about 15% stock/stock. Not much, but still. Last but not least, 1080 Gaming X is one of the top models and one of the better performers out there. Confused much, or just deliberately trolling? (hint: rhetorical question).

Don't twist reality, its been your thing every time you come here.

To OP: just compare stock vs stock and consider that Navi won't gain much if anything. The rest is bonus really.

Sad to burst your bubble.

PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 Red Dragon Review

Priced at $360, the PowerColor RX 5700 Red Dragon is an amazing factory-overclocked custom design for AMD Navi. Despite its dual-slot cooler, it runs very quietly, with good temperatures, and has idle-fan-stop, too. A second "quiet" BIOS lets you dial down noise levels even further, making the...

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1070 is 15% slower than 1080 in both 1080p and 1440p.

Gaming X was def not one of the top-models. It was fairly cheap tho, hence popular.

1070 Ti is within 5% of 1080.

 

[potato580+]

well after considering which card should we use, i think is best to buy new retail card, this is for longtime gaming tho, i wont bet my luck as usally, regadless price&performance&heatly worth i decide to make a suprise for my friend and added extra $ to buy gtx1660ti/gtx1070/1070ti/rx5700/rtx2060, will buy it tommorow and post what i got

 

[king of swag187]

5700XT is a lot of hassle for ultimately more performance. I'd still buy it just for the resell

 

[Vayra86]

Sad to burst your bubble.

PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 Red Dragon Review

Priced at $360, the PowerColor RX 5700 Red Dragon is an amazing factory-overclocked custom design for AMD Navi. Despite its dual-slot cooler, it runs very quietly, with good temperatures, and has idle-fan-stop, too. A second "quiet" BIOS lets you dial down noise levels even further, making the...

www.techpowerup.com

1070 is 15% slower than 1080 in both 1080p and 1440p.

Gaming X was def not one of the top-models. It was fairly cheap tho, hence popular.

1070 Ti is within 5% of 1080.

You do realize you took out a review of the 5700 OC (non XT) as the baseline, yes? Math? You're basing your statements on the relative performance to the one card that was never mentioned here.

 

[oobymach]

1080 has much higher pixel fillrate which translates to a 1080 can do 4k at 50-60fps while the 5700 is rated for 1440p 60fps. If you use dsr or a 4k screen this matters, if you are happy with 1080p either will be a worthy gpu.

 

[Zubasa]

1080 has much higher pixel fillrate which translates to a 1080 can do 4k at 50-60fps while the 5700 is rated for 1440p 60fps. If you use dsr or a 4k screen this matters, if you are happy with 1080p either will be a worthy gpu.

Both the 5700 and the 5700XT are faster than 1080 even at 4k.

 

[potato580+]

i noticed that benchmark chart you guys provide missing 1 competitor, like gtx980ti? it should be there tho, becouse the price is still on expensive cost, even above gtx1660 or rx590 pricetag, it is becouse out of league due to expired generation timeline? or it simple cant match gtx 1060 3gb on lower bracket?
and yes one more competitor in the same tier as rx570/1060 3gb, its rx480 no?
i used to own rx480 wolfedition xfx backday, and i can tell you for sure it actually sightly better than my current strix 570 4gb
anyway i decide to adding extra $50, shoul make quick decision soon gtx gtx1660ti/1070ti, no rx5700 or rtx thats too expensive $370 for amd and $390 for greedy nvida

 

[P4-630]

regadless price&performance&heatly worth i decide to make a suprise for my friend and added extra $ to buy gtx1660ti/gtx1070/1070ti/rx5700/rtx2060, will buy it tommorow and post what i got

So what did you buy?

 

[potato580+]

So what did you buy?

1660ti nor 1070ti, final decision $350, nomore plus, am alr broke