GTX 1080 TI on X58. What is your experience with that?

[Sasqui]

No. I'm nearly certain nvidia cards still have legacy bios modules.

On a tangential note... I was going to try putting a Vega 64 in an EVGA x58 board (with an X5670), since I wrecked my Z97 board. Thoughts on UEFI in that case?

 

[Kanan]

I'm a little surprised by what some of you guys are saying to him because if i recall 6 months ago i was asking if by just going by a w3520 (i7 920) to a X5660 i could have enough power for running a Fury X.
Now i come here and i see people saying that with is X58 chipset he can run just fine with a 1080TI .
How is that possible that i could not run a Fury X with my previos system and he can?
I really wanna know.

Fury X is highly different than GTX 900/1000 series GPUs. Because of how AMD drivers work compared to Nvidia, they need strong IPC CPUs, outdated CPU's wont do any good then, you would have a bottleneck - how big, depends on the clock you'd run with the X5660. I think 4.5 GHz would be nice, 4 GHz the minimum I'd do.

Hi there, just found out about the xeon chips and considering an upgrade from my i7920 with a gtx970 while keeping my costs down and found your post. So you don't think your xeon is bottlenecking your 1080ti?
I'm only doing think to play pubg by the way, so if you play it Id love to hear how well it runs. Also do you think there is any truth to the latest xeons like the 5690 being better overclockers because they are more recent revisions? Ive found one on ebay for about $100.......Would be pretty funny if it could feed a $1000 video card all these years later

If your i7 920 is highly overclocked it can still somewhat (note: somewhat) feed a 1080 Ti, but it will bottleneck it. It also depends on how much FPS and on what resolution you want to play. If you're going for let's say 1440p/60 or 4k/60 it'll be fine. If you're going for 1440p/144 it'll be somewhat bottlenecked. Minimum fps will also be always lower. Average fps isn't everything.

On a tangential note... I was going to try putting a Vega 64 in an EVGA x58 board (with an X5670), since I wrecked my Z97 board. Thoughts on UEFI in that case?

Could be problematic because Vega 64 is highly different bios wise compared to AMD cards before / Nvidia, but I'd try it nonetheless. The difference is it has a security check integrated and that fucks around with PC's trying to boot it, even newer ones.

 

[Capitan Harlock]

Well now is almost 1 year and i have a I7 4820k at 4.6ghz but if a 1080ti was going to be ok with a x5660 or x5670 i would have liked to know that at the time.
But i can't complain because new hw is better .

 

[Tomgang]

Hi there, just found out about the xeon chips and considering an upgrade from my i7920 with a gtx970 while keeping my costs down and found your post. So you don't think your xeon is bottlenecking your 1080ti?
I'm only doing think to play pubg by the way, so if you play it Id love to hear how well it runs. Also do you think there is any truth to the latest xeons like the 5690 being better overclockers because they are more recent revisions? Ive found one on ebay for about $100.......Would be pretty funny if it could feed a $1000 video card all these years later

With one GTX 970 you are fine with an I7 920. Get that puppy up to around 4 Ghz and there is no problem at all. But since games are beginning to take advantage of 6 core CPU´s and these X58 xeon are dead cheap. I will say go for it. Make sure your board has a bios version that support the later 6 core I7 versions like mine I7 980X else the Xeon will not work and if not update bios before swapping in a Xeon. I might also be a good idea to google your morher board with a Xeon and se if others have one running in it before baying one. Some X58 desktop boards can not handle Xeon properly, so tjeck it out before you do any thing.

About GTX 1080 TI in X58. At 1080P resolution yes you will se bottleneck, but from 1600P and up you are fine but i do recomment to get a 6 core Xeon/I7 cpu if you are gonna take the jump to a 1080 TI on X58 and besides i exspirince that I7 980X over I7 920 has more grunt.. GTX 1080 TI is not ment as a 1080P card any way. If you are only running 1080P stick to a GTX 1070/1070 TI/1080 non ti.

I can also confirm that 1080 TI runs fine on X58. Been doing it for several months now and there has not been any problem so far.

Here is a firestrike score from my system. Be aware of that CPU here is oc to 4.7 Ghz (for 24/7 use i back down to 4.25 GHz because of voltage, heat and noise levels).

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/13514527

But yeah so far i have no complains about X58 with a 6 core cpu, GTX 1080 Ti and a M.2 SSD. It runs great.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

With one GTX 970 you are fine with an I7 920. Get that puppy up to around 4 Ghz and there is no problem at all. But since games are beginning to take advantage of 6 core CPU´s and these X58 xeon are dead cheap. I will say go for it. Make sure your board has a bios version that support the later 6 core I7 versions like mine I7 980X else the Xeon will not work and if not update bios before swapping in a Xeon. I might also be a good idea to google your morher board with a Xeon and se if others have one running in it before baying one. Some X58 desktop boards can not handle Xeon properly, so tjeck it out before you do any thing.

About GTX 1080 TI in X58. At 1080P resolution yes you will se bottleneck, but from 1600P and up you are fine but i do recomment to get a 6 core Xeon/I7 cpu if you are gonna take the jump to a 1080 TI on X58 and besides i exspirince that I7 980X over I7 920 has more grunt.. GTX 1080 TI is not ment as a 1080P card any way. If you are only running 1080P stick to a GTX 1070/1070 TI/1080 non ti.

I can also confirm that 1080 TI runs fine on X58. Been doing it for several months now and there has not been any problem so far.

Here is a firestrike score from my system. Be aware of that CPU here is oc to 4.7 Ghz (for 24/7 use i back down to 4.25 GHz because of voltage, heat and noise levels).

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/13514527

But yeah so far i have no complains about X58 with a 6 core cpu, GTX 1080 Ti and a M.2 SSD. It runs great.

Thats really Nice&High score......I am curious what is your score for every day use when CPU&GPU are less clocked?

 

[Tomgang]

Thats really Nice&High score......I am curious what is your score for every day use when CPU&GPU are less clocked?

Have patiens. I downloading 3dmark now. Havent tried that my self yet so i also got curious.

 

[lexluthermiester]

@Tomgang Since is hasn't been mentioned[if it has, apologies, I didn't read every post], having used a 1080 on an X58/Xeon based system there are things to be aware of. The GTX1080 at 1080p, 1440p or 1600p will be bottlenecked by any of the quad-core socket 1366 cpu's, but the higher ghz versions it isn't so bad. With the 6-core cpu's they about match up as long as you are at 2.8ghz or better. At 4k it starts to swing back toward the cpu being bottlenecked. The GTX1080ti shifts the line back over to the cpu again. The 1080ti is strong enough to be bottlenecked by any of the socket 1366 cpu's, even at 4k, but not by much. But then even my i7-5820k on my main system bottlenecks a 1080ti. I'd say your setup is in a sweet-spot. Your 980X is only just barely starting to show it's age but should still serve you well until the next gen of gpu's motivate an upgrade. And the reality is it's better, gaming wise, to have your system bottleneck being the cpu instead of the gpu. So all in all, you're good.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Have patiens. I downloading 3dmark now. Havent tried that my self yet so i also got curious.

Cheers.....BTW I am also X58 owner rocking Xeon E5645 at 4Ghz and GTX 970 scoring around 11,500 in FireStrike which was significantly better then my previous FX 8300 that could not pass 9,000 in overall score with the same GPU......

 

[FilipM]

A mate of mine has a 3930K overclocked to 4.5 and a 1080Ti. So identical apart from CPU to mine.

We both never seen a bottleneck yet. I play Rainbow Six Siege, GPU usage is maxed out for both me and him. (1080P)

Other games too, I am yet to see the CPU usage at 100% or GPU dip below 99%. Iracing, Space Engineers, World of Tanks, War Thunder and so on.

 

[EarthDog]

Hi there, just found out about the xeon chips and considering an upgrade from my i7920 with a gtx970 while keeping my costs down and found your post. So you don't think your xeon is bottlenecking your 1080ti?
I'm only doing think to play pubg by the way, so if you play it Id love to hear how well it runs. Also do you think there is any truth to the latest xeons like the 5690 being better overclockers because they are more recent revisions? Ive found one on ebay for about $100.......Would be pretty funny if it could feed a $1000 video card all these years later

Yes...x58 bottlenecks a 1080ti unless you are playing at 4k. How much will vary dramatically by title from little to a lot. Pubg is optimized like a potato... my 7900x at 4.e only ramps up to low 3 ghz range to run it. But its also 50% faster ipc too.

Id sooner get a 1070 and upgrade from x58 with the money saved personally.

99% gpu use does NOT mean it is being bottlenecked.

 

[Tomgang]

@Tomgang Since is hasn't been mentioned[if it has, apologies, I didn't read every post], having used a 1080 on an X58/Xeon based system there are things to be aware of. The GTX1080 at 1080p, 1440p or 1600p will be bottlenecked by any of the quad-core socket 1366 cpu's, but the higher ghz versions it isn't so bad. With the 6-core cpu's they about match up as long as you are at 2.8ghz or better. At 4k it starts to swing back toward the cpu being bottlenecked. The GTX1080ti shifts the line back over to the cpu again. The 1080ti is strong enough to be bottlenecked by any of the socket 1366 cpu's, even at 4k, but not by much. But then even my i7-5820k on my main system bottlenecks a 1080ti. I'd say your setup is in a sweet-spot. Your 980X is only just barely starting to show it's age but should still serve you well until the next gen of gpu's motivate an upgrade. And the reality is it's better, gaming wise, to have your system bottleneck being the cpu instead of the gpu. So all in all, you're good.

Running a Quad-core X58 cpu with a new high-end GPU shut al ways be oc as high as possible. But then it also can run really great. Ran a I7 920 at 4.1 GHz with GTX 970 SLI before and that ran any game with no trouble at all. But yeah i do agrees if you are going on for a GTX 1080 or TI a 6 core CPU is not a bad idea. the 6 core chips has more grunt not only because of more cores, they also oc better and has more L3 cashe that helps performance as well.

Here is a score from then i had I7 920 and GTX 970 SLI. CPU ran here 4.41 GHz but at 24/7 use 4.1 GHz and the two GTX 970 are OC to there very limit back then.

Cheers.....BTW I am also X58 owner rocking Xeon E5645 at 4Ghz and GTX 970 scoring around 11,500 in FireStrike which was significantly better then my previous FX 8300 that could not pass 9,000 in overall score with the same GPU......

AMD bulldozer cpu is just plain weak when it comes to IPC, sure X58 is not king of the hill any logger either. But its better than bulldozer for sure. Well in coming score with 24/7 oc clocks on CPU as well a GPU.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/23576988?

 

[Zyll Goliat]

AMD bulldozer cpu is just plain weak when it comes to IPC, sure X58 is not king of the hill any logger either. But its better than bulldozer for sure. Well in coming score with 24/7 oc clocks on CPU as well a GPU.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/23576988?

Sure I agree about FX and that was the reason I switched on X58 platform that didn´t cost me almost nothing but to be honest as I usually play games on 3 monitor setup I must said that even the FX don´t bottleneck GPU on Higher Res.....but yeah 1080p is another story...
P.S. Thats Still an EXCELLENT FireStrike Score

 

[Tomgang]

Sure I agree about FX and that was the reason I switched on X58 that didn´t cost me nothing but to be honest as I usually play games on 3 monitor setup I must said that even the FX don´t bottleneck GPU on Higher Res.....but yeah 1080p is another story...

Correct. the higher resolution the less bottleneck there is. But i think i want to get GTX 1080 TI SLI and oc cpu to 6 Ghz then i just maybe can run tetris at 800x600 above 30 FPS

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Just slapped an EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 on my ASUS P6X58D-E MB with a mere 8GB RAM, and so far I'm surprised at how well it's doing. So far I've tested titles like Battlefield 1 and Wolfenstein 2 at max settings with 4K equivalent (200%) res scaling on BF1. It was dodgy at first with BF1. No trouble until I got to the mission in the Dolomites, where there was a lot of hitching. Running the command to use 8 CPU cores and enabling HT on my i7-950, plus switching to D11 made a HUGE difference. Seems to me Dx12 mode is buggy in that game. Smooth as butter in Wolfenstein 2 as well. Just got to the Manhattan Ruins level, and no sign of lag or hitching when it loads like with the 7970. Frame rates are 70 or more average on BF1 at 4k equivalent, and pretty much same on Wolf 2.

If you're planning a big upgrade and are worried about putting an expensive GPU on an X58, or even old Nehalem, don't be. I'm not saying those wanting best performance will be satisfied long term, but to assist a "little-at-a-time" upgrade, both X58 and Nehalem will be there for you. In a few months or so I plan to complete the upgrade with a 8700k, Z370 MB, and 16GB DDR4, 3000 or 3200 depending on prices. Next up I'll be testing Ghost Recon Wildlands, but that I'm reserving for when I get my 4K TV tomorrow.

 

[EarthDog]

Ahh, good for the less than 1% who play at 4k or have the horsepower to scale there...

And for those that rock 1080p (overwhelming majority) and a fast card...... beware of glass ceiling! Though, indeed, there are more fps benefits to adding an OP gpu for the system than to upgrade the system.

 

[Tomgang]

Just slapped an EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3 on my ASUS P6X58D-E MB with a mere 8GB RAM, and so far I'm surprised at how well it's doing. So far I've tested titles like Battlefield 1 and Wolfenstein 2 at max settings with 4K equivalent (200%) res scaling on BF1. It was dodgy at first with BF1. No trouble until I got to the mission in the Dolomites, where there was a lot of hitching. Running the command to use 8 CPU cores and enabling HT on my i7-950, plus switching to D11 made a HUGE difference. Seems to me Dx12 mode is buggy in that game. Smooth as butter in Wolfenstein 2 as well. Just got to the Manhattan Ruins level, and no sign of lag or hitching when it loads like with the 7970. Frame rates are 70 or more average on BF1 at 4k equivalent, and pretty much same on Wolf 2.

If you're planning a big upgrade and are worried about putting an expensive GPU on an X58, or even old Nehalem, don't be. I'm not saying those wanting best performance will be satisfied long term, but to assist a "little-at-a-time" upgrade, both X58 and Nehalem will be there for you. In a few months or so I plan to complete the upgrade with a 8700k, Z370 MB, and 16GB DDR4, 3000 or 3200 depending on prices. Next up I'll be testing Ghost Recon Wildlands, but that I'm reserving for when I get my 4K TV tomorrow.

Great even the quads can do it. But i bet the quads has more bottleneck at 1080p than there newer 6 core parts. I fact i know thats the case. I got a bit more fps in games with 980x over i7 920 with nearly identical clocks with gtx 970 sli. Nut much, but still a bit better.

And to others that runs 8 gb in there x58, i strogly reccoment getting 12 gb ram for 4k and remember x58 performence bedst with triple channel that mean use 3 or 6 memory sticks.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Ahh, good for the less than 1% who play at 4k or have the horsepower to scale there...

And for those that rock 1080p (overwhelming majority) and a fast card...... beware of glass ceiling! Though, indeed, there are more fps benefits to adding an OP gpu for the system than to upgrade the system.

Actually my initial intent wasn't as much 4K as you might think. I have a very small living room, and for me it's more space and cost efficient if I go with an all in one display, TV. That means that TV also has to be very good at handling gaming. The TVs I'd narrowed my choices down to were the 43" Sony X800D and 49" X900E, both rated pretty well for gaming at RTINGS.com. The X800D can be tuned to close to IPS quality color, but the X900E's processing is not only IPS equivalent out of the box, it's near OLED quality.

So I figured since the TV is going to be 4K, I better get a very good GPU in case scaling to 1440p doesn't yield the stellar results reported by gamers on these TVs. Plus I'll be jumping from 32" to 49" at the same 6.5' viewing distance for gaming, so I wanted to keep the pixels small.

I fully understand those whom want to or are content with staying at 1080p though, especially those with smaller than 40" displays. 4k GPU power is quite an investment, but I can't say I'm displeased at all so far, even though it's less bang for buck. That said, there's times I wish there were 32"-34" 1440p monitors with built in TV tuners (add-on ones can be a software and support nightmare), but no such thing exists. It would likely be way too small a market to compete with the TVs that game well. They DO however have a much longer warranty.

And to others that runs 8 gb in there x58, i strogly reccoment getting 12 gb ram for 4k and remember x58 performence bedst with triple channel that mean use 3 or 6 memory sticks.

The way I did it was add another Kingston HyperX 2GB module to my 3x2GB setup. Back then 8GB was plenty sufficient, and when I discovered my MB manual said you can still run dual channel mode with 4x2GB, it was a no brainer.

 

[Sasqui]

Could be problematic because Vega 64 is highly different bios wise compared to AMD cards before / Nvidia, but I'd try it nonetheless. The differenc

Plugged it (Vega 64) in last night to my EVGA x58 board and x5670 with a whopping 6gb RAM.

Worked flawlessly, I'll start another thread here at some point. Ran Firestrike (free version) and got blistering speeds over the gtx1060 6gb I tried in the same rig about 3 mo. back. A little fan noise but the card never got over 60c, even when I ran FS Ultra (I have 3DMark on Steam).

Along with an 32" ultra wide LG 3220x1440, the visuals were absolutely the best I've ever had the pleasure of seeing and I haven't even plugged in DP cable yet, so the panel is only running at 50hz! Couldn't be more pleased.

The way I did it was add another Kingston HyperX 2GB module to my 3x2GB setup. Back then 8GB was plenty sufficient, and when I discovered my MB manual said you can still run dual channel mode with 4x2GB, it was a no brainer.

With some combing through one of my x58 manuals (ASUS or EVGA), I was surprised to find the same thing. Finding 2x dual channel DDR3 kits is pretty easy. One triple channel kit not so much.