H50 or ECO-R120 keep under an i7 860 @4ghz+ under 80c?

[niko084]

Just as the title says, just upgraded my gamin rig here a bit and have been trying my Xig Balder on this i7 but it wont keep it in the temp range I want to see at 4ghz+.

So what I'm looking to do is just get it to 4ghz, not even that big of a deal I'm running at 3.8...

But it's that magic 4, so does anyone know if the H50 or ECO-R120 obviously given better fan(s) would keep it under 80c at or above 4ghz?

I am not looking for comparitives between the H50 and ECO-R120, just wondering if they will keep the temps low enough.

 

[Fourstaff]

Personal preference. People will support either one of them to death. I think the ECO has a better mounting system, while H50 comes with the coveted Corsair sticker.

 

[Rakesh95]

"There is no denying the fact that CoolIT’s pint-sized unit is outperformed by the Corsair H50......."

So most probably the h50 is better, no chance of getting an h70?

 

[sneekypeet]

Just as the title says, just upgraded my gamin rig here a bit and have been trying my Xig Balder on this i7 but it wont keep it in the temp range I want to see at 4ghz+.

So what I'm looking to do is just get it to 4ghz, not even that big of a deal I'm running at 3.8...

But it's that magic 4, so does anyone know if the H50 or ECO-R120 obviously given better fan(s) would keep it under 80c at or above 4ghz?

I am not looking for comparitives between the H50 and ECO-R120, just wondering if they will keep the temps low enough.

Whats the voltage needed to run 4ghz with both the CPU voltage and VTT?

Sorry for the reality check, but you shouldn't be hitting 80* unless you are testing with linpak. The AIO water coolers are beaten by some air coolers as it is, so if you are already in trouble, its tough to say it will do much better.

 

[OSWiz]

No question, the Corsair H70 FTW

 

[3volvedcombat]

actually me having the Corsair H50 and running it and loving it, so on so forth.

Go get

a



*drums*


NOCTUA D-14 heatsink- the massive one with the 140mm and 120mm fan.

Its the size of the shoe box, but will cool that i7 down with proper air circulation.


or wait-

and get a H70 beast rad do it, in most cases should destroy the h50 because of so much rad then the H50 period.

 

[niko084]

Whats the voltage needed to run 4ghz with both the CPU voltage and VTT?

Sorry for the reality check, but you shouldn't be hitting 80* unless you are testing with linpak. The AIO water coolers are beaten by some air coolers as it is, so if you are already in trouble, its tough to say it will do much better.

The Xig. Balder while a nice cooler isn't exactly one of the best, I'll get my exact voltages settings for 4gz just as soon as I finish getting them all trimmed down here shortly.

Also, I am getting these temps while testing with OCCT *not the linpack however*, which I know generates more heat than any piece of software I will use but that's exactly why I like to draw my baselines from there.

 

[douglatins]

If size is no restriction get the NOCTUA D14

 

[Kitkat]

i had an h50 plz dont do this just get a heatsink. The threshold is so much higher hot days ect. You have a gaming rig there is no diff in noise either

 

[niko084]

Alright..

Currently I'm sitting at 1.9 PLL and 1.475vcore...
This is for 21x191mhz

No control for VTT on this board, might be reason enough to replace it already.
I can't really test this as it starts tagging 95c.

Bclk is stable, ram is stable, tested with a lower multi.

 

[overclocking101]

niko VTT is also known as IMC voltage. I know your board has that option. and your vcore is way to high for your clock speed lynnfields can hit 4ghz with 1.35v tweak some settings adjust your qpi ratio something is definately wrong there.

 

[ERazer]

niko VTT is also known as IMC voltage. I know your board has that option. and your vcore is way to high for your clock speed lynnfields can hit 4ghz with 1.35v tweak some settings adjust your qpi ratio something is definately wrong there.

+1, and intel change spec on vtt volt so can get stable in lower vcore

 

[niko084]

niko VTT is also known as IMC voltage. I know your board has that option. and your vcore is way to high for your clock speed lynnfields can hit 4ghz with 1.35v tweak some settings adjust your qpi ratio something is definately wrong there.

Aw, IMC is sitting at 1.25 and ram is stable at much faster speeds, I had the ram even cut back to it's min multi, sitting right now still at 1.25v but clocked down to 3.8 my ram is sitting slightly above 1400 and it's stable.
I'm trying to bump it up a bit but I was under the impression that voltage was only needed when your ram was being clocked faster, am I missing something?

1.344v vcore, if I drop that I lose stability.
QPI gives me 2 options, I set it to the lowest with and still no luck.

Maybe I just got a really crappy chip...

 

[sneekypeet]

That does seem hot for your settings. Quite possibly the chip you have is hot. When I ran 1.4V CPU and 1.48V VTT and 1.76V to the ram, I would only break into the 80's on air in OCCT.

I assume the Antec 300 is cool enough internally, maybe its the 90 dergee ambients of summer?

 

[niko084]

That does seem hot for your settings. Quite possibly the chip you have is hot. When I ran 1.4V CPU and 1.48V VTT and 1.76V to the ram, I would only break into the 80's on air in OCCT.

I assume the Antec 300 is cool enough internally, maybe its the 90 dergee ambients of summer?

I'll test the temps with a few other things when I get back and see if I get different readings.

Ambient air is around 70-75F so that shouldn't be the issue, I also have the case packed with fans and negative pressure by far, could be bad thermal paste too, I can try that but I think I'm going to grab one of these kits anyways.

 

[sneekypeet]

if you want my opinion on ECO vs H50, I liked the ECO more. Both are going to get replacement fans, so it was down to mounting for me. The H70 is right around the corner though. Even though it still uses the crap mounting ring, it does boast a thicker single rad.

 

[niko084]

I figured the ECO for myself as well, I have dealt with the H50 a few times.

I think if I get the ECO I might just consider using a different rad anyways, I would do a full loop on it but I really don't want to deal with the mess.

 

[sneekypeet]

well if you disconnect the rad, you will have all the mess associated with a custom loop.

 

[Frizz]

Go to the last thread of this link to see my results with the i7 930, they're pretty much the same CPU on different platforms.

Corsair H50:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=128410


I don't suggest you get the H50 since the corsair H70 is out and is considerably better than both H50 and the ECO for a small premium.


EDIT: With hyper-threading on, you cannot expect it to go under 70 unless you have water-cooling.

 

[niko084]

EDIT: With hyper-threading on, you cannot expect it to go under 70 unless you have water-cooling.

That would sum it up nicely... But I'm not cutting back my HT, may as well have bought a standard quad.

Maybe I'll put a small custom loop on it, beh I'll figure it out, just want more power as always.

 

[OSWiz]

Conclusion

There’s a lot we can say about the H70 and unlike some other closed system water cooling units, it just flat out impressed us. We have seen time and again some of the supposedly “cutting edge” products in this field fall on their faces the second it came to dissipating heat from an overclocked i7. But not the H70. In our minds, Corsair has a real winner on their hands and they have every reason to market it to their hearts content.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...5225-corsair-hydro-h70-cpu-cooler-review.html