Hackintosh

Hugis · Apr 25, 2020

Are we allowed to chat about it on here?

dorsetknob · Apr 25, 2020

Hugis said:
Are we allowed to chat about it on here?

@Easy Rhino @Mindweaver opinion/clarification needed

Regeneration · Apr 25, 2020

I'd say as long as you own a legit copy of the macOS software. But hey, it looks like macOS Catalina is being offered for free.

You can run Windows on a Mac officially with Boot Camp. Shouldn't be illegal the other way around.

If free is a no-go, OS X Lion is $20 on the Apple Store, that makes you eligible for the free upgrade.

TheLostSwede · Apr 25, 2020

This is one of the best resources for it on the web for it.

Home

www.tonymacx86.com

They are a bit heavy on the ban hammer though, so be careful what you ask their if you sign up for the forums.

Hugis · Apr 25, 2020

TheLostSwede said:
This is one of the best resources for it on the web for it.

Home

www.tonymacx86.com

They are a bit heavy on the ban hammer though, so be careful what you ask their if you sign up for the forums.

yep already frequent there

TheLostSwede · Apr 25, 2020

Hugis said:
yep already frequent there

Worked there for a few months, many moons ago. Wrote a few reviews, lots of news, made some kexts and what not.
Don't really mess around with that stuff any more though.

king of swag187 · Apr 25, 2020

MacOS is only free if you own a Mac (aside from pirating/downloading it elsewhere, which is ILLEGAL)

Tonymac forums are a awful place, r/hackintosh is much better as bad as reddit is, they have much better guides and support.

R-T-B · Apr 25, 2020

king of swag187 said:
MacOS is only free if you own a Mac (aside from pirating/downloading it elsewhere, which is ILLEGAL)

You also buy install media (ie it's not "free" even for mac users to upgrade), but yes, EULA violation and all that. No one really cares though. Apple even gave up on that a while ago.

Easy Rhino · Apr 25, 2020

Yea people can talk about it. The hackintosh community isn't exactly underground these days.

Mindweaver · Apr 25, 2020

Easy Rhino said:
Yea people can talk about it. The hackintosh community isn't exactly underground these days.

Yea, I don't see a problem with it either and it's been a while since I've ran one. Last time I did it was on a C2D.

EDIT: Snow leopard if I'm not mistaken.. lol

Hugis · Apr 25, 2020

Cool just putting an old school pc together, seeing how far i can go up the ladder(osx-macos wise)

PC:
Asus G31 mobo
2*2Gb 800Mhz ddr2
Q9550 @ 3.4
Mobile sata HDD Fuji 160Gb
Nvidia9500GT 1gb (ddr2)

Got mavericks working great 10.9.5 (13F1911)
trying for 10.13 tonight/tomorrow

freeagent · Apr 26, 2020

My workmate built one using a 9700K, little gigabyte WiFi board, dark rock pro 4, 5700xt, and a couple nvme drives and a few externals. That thing is a beast.

TheLostSwede · Apr 26, 2020

king of swag187 said:
Tonymac forums are a awful place, r/hackintosh is much better as bad as reddit is, they have much better guides and support.

Well, the guy who runs the site isn't quite right in the head, we were supposed to sign a contract and it was never finished and then he just told me to get lost one day...
Their super moderator, Stork is some old dude that's a bit weird, to say the least.
Haven't really been back since then so...

king of swag187 · Apr 27, 2020

I've browsed the forums a couple times back when I was looking for the quick and easy route for Hackintoshing (which doesn't exist without compromises)

sam_86314 · Apr 27, 2020

I hackintoshed my old 2600K system a few years ago and everything but audio worked really well. At the time, it had an i7-2600K (obviously), an ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB of DDR3-1600, a GTX 780, and the OS X install ran off a 500GB Seagate HDD.

I ran Yosemite on it, and used my 2011 MacBook Pro (my main laptop at the time) to set everything up.

phanbuey · Apr 27, 2020

Apple is moving away from x86, so the days of hackintoshes might be coming to an end.

TheLostSwede · Apr 27, 2020

sam_86314 said:
I hackintoshed my old 2600K system a few years ago and everything but audio worked really well. At the time, it had an i7-2600K (obviously), an ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB of DDR3-1600, a GTX 780, and the OS X install ran off a 500GB Seagate HDD.

I ran Yosemite on it, and used my 2011 MacBook Pro (my main laptop at the time) to set everything up.

Audio was tricky on some boards, but doable on most, but not all. I did some surround sound kexts at the time, so even that worked, but again, not perfect with all Realtek audio chips.

phanbuey said:
Apple is moving away from x86, so the days of hackintoshes might be coming to an end.

Uhm, not any time soon. There's talk about one laptop with an ARM processor, which has somehow been turned into Apple giving up on Intel. That's not the same thing...
Besides, with the new Mac Pro just having launched, I think x86 support for OSX will continue for at least the foreseeable future.

SL2 · Apr 27, 2020

Haven't really looked into it since <2008 :roll:

, but I remember that http://wiki.osx86project.org was really useful, especially their hardware compatibility database, guides, and system build recommendations.
The site is not what it used be, unfortunately, but the forum is pretty good.

InsanelyMac

www.insanelymac.com

Yeah, I was kind of interested, then came Windows 7.

Fouquin · Apr 27, 2020

phanbuey said:
Apple is moving away from x86, so the days of hackintoshes might be coming to an end.

Don't hold your breath. Quite a few people within Apple have no intention of letting Hackintosh die.

bobbybluz · Apr 27, 2020

I built a dozen or so for co-workers 8-10 years ago. Gigabyte motherboards and Intel CPU's were the trick back then. The last one I built was for myself, a 3770K in an Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe. After a couple of days I was so bored with it I put Windows 7 on it and it's still running today with 7 and 10 in dual-boot as a utility PC.

SL2 · Apr 27, 2020

bobbybluz said:
I built a dozen or so for co-workers 8-10 years ago. Gigabyte motherboards and Intel CPU's were the trick back then.

Yeah, I remember Gigabyte worked best out of the box. I always wondered why, because I can't imagine Gigabyte putting money into making their boards compatible. Then again I don't think they worked well just out of coincidence. Maybe they just picked components that was used in Macs?
Dunno how tiny this market is, but making boards that play nice with OSX should make any brand look a bit better.

GA is still being popular..

Installation Guides

Guides or Tutorials only - Do not ask help here!

www.insanelymac.com

TheLostSwede · Apr 27, 2020

Mats said:
Yeah, I remember Gigabyte worked best out of the box. I always wondered why, because I can't imagine Gigabyte putting money into making their boards compatible. Then again I don't think they worked well just out of coincidence. Maybe they just picked components that was used in Macs?
Dunno how tiny this market is, but making boards that play nice with OSX should make any brand look a bit better.

GA is still being popular..

Installation Guides

Guides or Tutorials only - Do not ask help here!

www.insanelymac.com

Well, for one, Gigabyte had a few UEFI tricks that made their boards slightly more compatible with OSX. Then there's the fact that they made a custom board for a "commercial" hackintosh maker, so I guess they figured out a few more things then. I think I have the pictures at home somewhere of that board, but I can't even remember the name of the company they made it for and I think they're long gone.

Edit: Found a few details. Turns out they even ran a Kickstarter... (seems like they ripped off a lot of people)
Possibly one of the highest-end mATX boards ever made.

projectQ - Run Any OS: The Unique Motherboard

The first motherboard designed to run any Operating System you choose out of the box.

www.kickstarter.com

OSx86 Project | InsanelyMac

wiki.osx86project.org

SL2 · Apr 28, 2020

TheLostSwede said:
Edit: Found a few details. Turns out they even ran a Kickstarter... (seems like they ripped off a lot of people)

How did I miss that one..

That guy and GA were onto something, I bet some people/professionals who wants a board that just works are willing to pay a premium

TheLostSwede · Apr 28, 2020

Mats said:
How did I miss that one.. That guy and GA were onto something, I bet some people/professionals who wants a board that just works are willing to pay a premium

Let me know if you're interested in making a custom board, I know a few people...
This was Gigabyte's own board, which it was based on.

GA-Z77MX-D3H TH (rev. 1.0) Overview | Motherboard - GIGABYTE Global

Lasting Quality from GIGABYTE.GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ motherboards bring together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer users the absolute ...

www.gigabyte.com

SL2 · Apr 28, 2020

TheLostSwede said:
Let me know if you're interested in making a custom board, I know a few people...

Thanks, but I'm not the right person for that.

I value time more than anything, and a project like that would eat a LOT of time.

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