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Hailea Ultra Titan HC 250 WaterChiller

Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by Knoxx29, Jan 10, 2017.

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    Well, that's the first thing i will do tomorrow.

    As you know my room temps are low because i don't use the heater, Did you have the heater plus the Chiller on?
     
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    I was looking forward to a post from you, Mr Scott.... lol.. to be honest I was actually hoping for it, or even something correcting me lol.... :)

    So I'm even more pleased, I got it right, lol.

    Anyway; think I'm going to go with Mayhems XT-1 by the way, for coolant..... it's been especially designed for sub-zero use with water-chillers in the PC Liquid Cooling business, and is advertised as lower viscosity for the same freeze protection :)

    After continuing my "research" lol.. it seems corrosion will be least of my worries.... seen a setup on midlifegamer.co.uk where a guy was using four D5's. No idea what coolant he was using...
     
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    Yeah, at one point I did.. but the Chiller will still, definitely raise the room temp a bit.. especially after its been running a while....
     
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    It wasn't for nothing.....

    I've got a few options...

    I already had a support request going with Mayhems at the time and I was also very pleased to hear about the Innovatek as well (which is still an option if the Mayhems doesn't work out)

    2/3 days ago I thought the biggest problem was going to be with corrosion.... or with acrylic chemical reactions with coolant.

    But the more I dug and the more research I done (I eventually started looking at other peoples sub-zero setups)

    And I found an example where a guy needed FOUR D5 pumps just for -10 because the viscosity becomes a huge problem.

    The more concentrate you use, the thicker it gets...

    I am still astonished the Innovatek already works for -13c
     
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    Because it has Ethanediol
     
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    Innovatek Protect concentrate by Aquatuning 1000ml £17.14
    £17.14 x 5 L = £85.70 <--- that's $104 for those in the U.S lol for 5L

    Mayhems XT-1
    250ml concentrate will make up to 5 Ltrs @ 5% volume £6.75 per 250ML

    Frost Protection °C / *% v/v of Mayhems XT-1 in the system
    - N/A - 5%
    - 2.5°C - 10%
    - 5 °C - 16%
    - 10 °C - 22%
    - 15 °C - 28%

    so 28% for -15c
    = 6 x 250ml bottles

    =£37.68
     
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    I wonder if Ethanediol (Innovatek Protect IP) is lower Viscosity for the same freeze protection than Ethylene (Mayhems XT-1) or vice versa....

    The difference in price, suggests maybe Innovatek Protect IP could be easier to pump.... (not as thick)

    So if the Mayhems doesn't work out for me, I know what to do next.. even if it is a lot more expensive :)

    *googles Ethanediol*

    Edit:

    They are the same thing:

    Other names
    Ethylene glycol
    1,2-Ethanediol
    Ethylene alcohol
    Hypodicarbonous acid
    Monoethylene glycol
    1,2-Dihydroxyethane
     
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    You don't need to buy the concentrate one if you're not going to -20c, you have to buy the regular one and don't need to add anything, and for -20c you just need 1.5L concentrated in 7L of the regular one.


    Note: Innovatek regular is 25% for -13c.
     
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    oops, I see that now.. I was looking at the concentrate.... (

    the page description is in German, must of threw me off.

    It's mixed 1:3

    So I'm getting 4L coolant for 17.14, that's definitely more reasonable.
     
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    So how big is your tank then mate? Is it as big as the HC-500a (about 4-5L)?

    Has your coolant arrived yet? :)

    Hows your temps?

    A new thread with some screenshots would be good and maybe even a bit drool-worthy for some people thinking of following suit with us lol :)

    P.S. so did you keep the radiator in, like you said?
     
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    Your 500A is 475×360×490mm and my 250A is 448×330×440mm, probably 1L less.

    I am pissed off, DHL delay, there weren't able to delivery it today:banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:


    Still Hot:D

    Uhmmmmmo_O

    If People think twice before building a Watercooling System how many times do they have to think before building a Waterchiller System?:D

    Note: for many reasons no everybody is prepared to take that step.

    For sure i will keep it.
     
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    That's shit; you must be really annoyed. Damn courier companies are quiet at this time of year too...

    Keeping will be safer I suppose, if you get any condensation... you can just turn fans on FULL and that could save you :)

    Beware though; if you do get any... (condensation) it will appear on anything metal before it appears on anything plastic (like tubing).... tubing will be last :)

    I found that out the hard way, lol

    Humidity is nice & low tonight, but soon I won't need to check the meter anymore (hopefully) :)
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    I shouldn't get condensation for the following reasons:

    1 - you get condensation if you go below Td temps.
    ( i will Set my temps way above Td temps, at least 7c+ )

    2 - i have 2 top fans constantly running at 1200rpm and one rear fan running at 1200rpm in order to keep the air moving out of the case and prevent condensation.

    Did you get condensation?
     
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    Translated for 1st and 2nd items:

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    Update

    Because i knew that the Coolant was going to be delivered today i started to get ready the Machine and Chiller.

    First thing i did was to remove the Graphic Card from the Machine.

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    The Hoses.

    All what i did was disconnect the hose that went from the radiator to the CPU and hook up the Out from the Chiller to the CPU and the In from the Chiller to the radiator.

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    The Coolant arrived at 12:42, 12 minutes after i went to work.

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    Adding the Coolant.

    I knew that adding the Coolant through the reservoir to fill the Chiller was going to take more than 10 minutes, that's why i added 2L Coolant directly to the Chiller and 1/2L Coolant through the reservoir, it took no more than 5 minutes.

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    What a mess:D

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    I don't know why i bought 2 Valves:confused:

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    The Chiller is running:pimp:

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    good to see mate how is it coping?

    lets see some temperature screenshots

    those windows open and the heating off.. see if u can get that dew point, lower than me lol! :)

    whats your dew point meter saying?
     
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    I have the Chiller's temp set at 18c

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    You know that i don't use a Heater in my room:slap:




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    With the Chiller's Temps set at 18c the CPU's Temps never goes above 31c while Gaming, i haven't tried temps below 18c yet.
     
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    Just to make you happy;)


    Full load

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    Idle

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    I want one now
     
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    It would be fun;)

    16c is the lowest i have tried and System temp are amazing:toast:
     
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    Lowest I've ever achieved is 53°C on a FX-8350 @5.5GHz ambient temperature -3°C

    :roll::banghead:
     
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    Glad to see your enjoying it :)
     

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