Hard Drives= Number 1 Failing Component?

STCNE · Oct 10, 2012

cdawall said:
Mine were not cheap boards...

ASUS?

cdawall · Oct 10, 2012

STCNE said:
ASUS?

Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, ECS, Asrock, the list goes on. :laugh:

D007 · Oct 10, 2012

I know I have experienced hard drive failure within that limit twice.. I've only been building pc's since I joined TPU.. 2 Failures since 2007.. They are garbage I guess. I just thought I always screwed something up..

But I guess the greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was convincing the wolrd he didn't exist..
Kind of like how HD manufacturers convinced us it was our fault or "extremely" unlikley to fail within that time..
Better start backing up more often..lol..

Cruise51 · Oct 10, 2012

No. Only had one hard drive fail. Though I've had a crap load of motherboards die. Power supplies are the worst since they tend to invite other parts over for a group suicide. :cry:

newtekie1 · Oct 10, 2012

cdawall said:
I think I have killed more motherboards than HDD's and PSU's combined.

Yeah, but you probably push the boards too, 90% of the computer population run pre-builts with no way to push components beyond their specs.

Though there are a lot of shit boards out there in pre-builts with popped caps from the Pentium 4 era, Dells seem to be the worst.

nt300 · Oct 10, 2012

What I find irritating is Seagate and WD both reduces the warranty period due to a larger number of hard driver failures. Should this be the other way around? Take care of your customers. This tell s me that they are no longer confident about their own products they sell.

Peter1986C · Oct 10, 2012

^That may be a sign that they try to prepare for and adapt to changes in the storage market.

newtekie1 · Oct 10, 2012

nt300 said:
What I find irritating is Seagate and WD both reduces the warranty period due to a larger number of hard driver failures. Should this be the other way around? Take care of your customers. This tell s me that they are no longer confident about their own products they sell.

A reduction in warranty period doesn't mean a reduction in product quality, reducing the warranty period is a cost saving measure. When they figure the cost on a drive they include a certain margin to cover the small number of warranty replacements for that model. Reducing the warranty length reduces the amount of margin that is set aside and lowers the cost of the drive.

St.Alia-Of-The-Knife · Oct 10, 2012

Ive never had an hdd going bad on me before, guess i might expect it soon...

Solaris17 · Oct 10, 2012

this only makes sense. First off in my experience laptop drives will be the first to go. I mean its not like desktops fall off your lap everyday. Secondly this type of thing can be said about almost any component machanical or not. I have a via pci card i use for testing. iv dropped it knocked it off my table set boxes on it and it hasent failed me yet. But current cards failure rates are much higher. it makes sense to me that a 320mb drive from 1989 still works when a 3TB seagate fails after getting too hot. as technology and performance improve the fault tolerence from what iv seen goes down. its all more fragile. Saying companies are screwing customers are that they are making the drives moe failure prown is non-sense and misinforming new members. thats like saying

this

should have the same failure rate as

this

doesnt make sense.

[XC] Oj101 · Oct 10, 2012

newtekie1 said:
The two items I see fail most are hard drives and power supplies. I'd be hard for me to pick out which one I replace more often.

Oddly enough cold is a major problem as well for hard drives. When google released their hard drive failure statistics, they showed that drives that ran at 20°C had higher failure rates than drives that ran at 50°C.

I would imagine so. The ideal temperature for a hard drive would be a fine balance between cool enough to last and warm enough for the lubricant to be close to its maximum viscosity. I remember reading years ago that 45'c to 55'c is the ideal range for maximizing life out of a drive.

Jetster · Oct 11, 2012

This is why I change mine every 3 years

cdawall · Oct 11, 2012

newtekie1 said:
Yeah, but you probably push the boards too, 90% of the computer population run pre-builts with no way to push components beyond their specs.

Though there are a lot of shit boards out there in pre-builts with popped caps from the Pentium 4 era, Dells seem to be the worst.

Most of them died when volts were a smidge high...

Widjaja · Oct 11, 2012

Dust seems to be the number one culprit of the failed HDDs in my experience.
Secondly PSU.
Thirdly dropped laptop while HDD is spinning.

The only time I have had HDDs fail of my own are due to dropping them and plugging them into a faulty USB bay.

johnspack · Oct 11, 2012

I deal with a lot of old systems I either have to repair, or inherit to scrounge parts out of so I can keep repairing old systems. I have what I call a "dead drive stack"... typically upto 10 hds I had to pull out of systems because they are dead. I find it's the 1gb+ drives that end up there most. Older drives seem to keep running forever. I still have a 40mb mfm seagate that still works.

System Name	Lycanthropy
Processor	i5 2500K
Motherboard	ECS p67-h2a2
Memory	8GB Muskin Radioactive Series
Video Card(s)	MSI R7770
Case	Lancool K62
Audio Device(s)	Ultra-Fi Dac41, Vintage Sherwood amp, STAX SR-5 Headphones
Power Supply	XFX 850W
Software	Win 7 64-Bit(Tried Win8 and never going back)
Benchmark Scores	Reboots in 35 seconds flat, with a standard HDD. I'm a bit of an OCD tweaker. Using less than 100GB

System Name	All the cores
Processor	2990WX
Motherboard	Asrock X399M
Cooling	CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL
Memory	4x16GB G.Skill 3600
Video Card(s)	(2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's
Storage	2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s)	Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case	Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal
Audio Device(s)	Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse	Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller
Keyboard	Keychron K8
Software	W10P

System Name	HAL
Processor	Core i9 13900k @5.8-6.1
Motherboard	Z790 Arous master
Cooling	EKWB Quantum Velocity V2 & (2) 360 Corsair XR7 Rads push/pull
Memory	2x 32GB (64GB) Gskill trident 6000 CL30 @28 1T
Video Card(s)	RTX 4090 Gigagbyte gaming OC @ +200/1300
Storage	(M2's) 2x Samsung 980 pro 2TB, 1xWD Black 2TB, 1x SK Hynix Platinum P41 2TB
Display(s)	65" LG OLED 120HZ
Case	Lian Li dyanmic Evo11 with distro plate
Power Supply	Thermaltake 1350
Software	Microsoft Windows 11 x64

Processor	Intel Atom 270
Cooling	Passive
Memory	2GB DDR3-1333
Storage	160GB WD 2.5"
Case	Custom
Power Supply	Seasonic-Passive

Processor	Intel Core i7 10850K@5.2GHz
Motherboard	AsRock Z470 Taichi
Cooling	Corsair H115i Pro w/ Noctua NF-A14 Fans
Memory	32GB DDR4-3600
Video Card(s)	RTX 2070 Super
Storage	500GB SX8200 Pro + 8TB with 1TB SSD Cache
Display(s)	Acer Nitro VG280K 4K 28"
Case	Fractal Design Define S
Audio Device(s)	Onboard is good enough for me
Power Supply	eVGA SuperNOVA 1000w G3
Software	Windows 10 Pro x64

Hard Drives= Number 1 Failing Component?

STCNE

New Member

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

D007

Cruise51

newtekie1

Semi-Retired Folder

nt300

Peter1986C

newtekie1

Semi-Retired Folder

St.Alia-Of-The-Knife

New Member

Solaris17

Super Dainty Moderator

[XC] Oj101

Jetster

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

Widjaja

johnspack

Here For Good!

System Name	Gamers PC
Processor	AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 3.80 GHz
Motherboard	MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3
Cooling	Corsair H50 Cooler
Memory	Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1333
Video Card(s)	XFX Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5
Storage	2 x WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA300 w/64MB Buffer (RAID 0)
Display(s)	Samsung 2494SW 1080p 24" WS LCD HD
Case	CM HAF 932 Full Tower Case
Audio Device(s)	Creative SB X-FI TITANIUM -PCIE x 1
Power Supply	Corsair TX Series CMPSU-650TX (650W)
Software	Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit

System Name	desktop \| Odroid N2+ \|
Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 \| Amlogic S922X \|
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550M DS3H \|Odroid N2+ \|
Cooling	Inter-Tech Argus SU-200, 3x Arctic P12 case fans \| stock heatsink + fan \|
Memory	Gskill Aegis DDR4 32GB \| 4 GB DDR4 \|
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Pulse RX 6600 (8GB) \| Arm Mali G52 \|
Storage	SK Hynix SSD 240GB, Samsung 840 EVO 250 GB, Toshiba DT01ACA100 1T \| Samsung 850 Evo 500GB \|
Display(s)	AOC G2260VWQ6 \| LG 24MT57D \|
Case	Asus Prime 201 \| Stock case (black version) \|
Audio Device(s)	integrated
Power Supply	BeQuiet! Pure Power 11 400W \| 12v barrel jack \|
Mouse	Logitech G500 \|Steelseries Rival 300
Keyboard	Qpad MK-50 (Cherry MX brown)\| Blaze Keyboard
Software	Windows 10, Various Linux distros \| Gentoo Linux

Processor	Phenom II 955 @ 3955Mhz 1.45v
Motherboard	ASUS M4A79XTD EVO
Cooling	CoolerMaster Hyper TX3 push-pull /2x140mm + 2x230mm + 2x120mm = super noisy computer
Memory	4x2Gb Kingston DDR3-1333 8-8-8-22 @ 1527Mhz
Video Card(s)	Crossfire 2x Sapphire Radeon 6850 @ 850/1200
Storage	320Gb Western Digital WD3200AAJS
Display(s)	Samsung 23" 1920x1080
Case	Azza Solano 1000R Full-Tower
Audio Device(s)	VIA VT1708S (integrated) + quadraphonic speakers
Power Supply	CoolerMaster Extreme Power Plus 700w
Software	Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit

System Name	Rocinante
Processor	I9 14900KS
Motherboard	EVGA z690 Dark KINGPIN (modded BIOS)
Cooling	EK-AIO Elite 360 D-RGB
Memory	64GB Gskill Trident Z5 DDR5 6000 @6400
Video Card(s)	MSI SUPRIM Liquid X 4090
Storage	1x 500GB 980 Pro \| 1x 1TB 980 Pro \| 1x 8TB Corsair MP400
Display(s)	Odyssey OLED G9 G95SC
Case	Lian Li o11 Evo Dynamic White
Audio Device(s)	Moondrop S8's on Schiit Hel 2e
Power Supply	Bequiet! Power Pro 12 1500w
Mouse	Lamzu Atlantis mini (White)
Keyboard	Monsgeek M3 Lavender, Akko Crystal Blues
VR HMD	Quest 3
Software	Windows 11
Benchmark Scores	I dont have time for that.

Processor	Pentium II 400 @ 516MHz
Motherboard	AOpen AX6BC EZ
Cooling	Stock
Memory	192MB PC-133
Video Card(s)	2x Voodoo 12MB in SLI, S3 Trio64V+
Storage	Maxtor 40GB
Display(s)	ViewSonic E90
Audio Device(s)	Sound Blaster 16
Software	Windows 98 SE

System Name	Juliette // HTPC
Processor	Intel i7 9700K // AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
Motherboard	ASUS Prime Z390X-A // ASRock B550 ITX-AC
Cooling	Noctua NH-U12 Black // Stock
Memory	Corsair DDR4 3600 32gb //G.SKILL Trident Z Royal Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 3600
Video Card(s)	ASUS RTX4070 OC// GTX 1650
Storage	Samsung 970 EVO NVMe 1Tb, Intel 665p Series M.2 2280 1TB // Samsung 1Tb SSD
Display(s)	ASUS VP348QGL 34" Quad HD 3440 x 1440 // 55" LG 4K SK8000 Series
Case	Seasonic SYNCRO Q7// Silverstone Granada GD05
Audio Device(s)	Focusrite Scarlett 4i4 // HDMI to Samsung HW-R650 sound bar
Power Supply	Seasonic SYNCRO 750 W // CORSAIR Vengeance 650M
Mouse	Cooler Master MM710 53G
Keyboard	Logitech 920-009300 G512 SE
Software	Windows 10 Pro // Windows 10 Pro

System Name	Darth Obsidious
Processor	Intel i5 2500K
Motherboard	ASUS P8Z68-V/Gen3
Cooling	Cooler Master Hyper 212+ in Push Pull
Memory	2X4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600
Video Card(s)	ASUS R9 270x TOP
Storage	128GB Samsung 830 SSD, 1TB WD Black, 2TB WD Green
Display(s)	LG IPS234V-PN
Case	Corsair Obsidian 650D
Audio Device(s)	Infrasonic Quartet
Power Supply	Corsair HX650w
Software	Windows 7 64bit and Windows XP Home
Benchmark Scores	2cm mark on bench with a razor blade.

System Name	System2 Blacknet , System1 Blacknet2
Processor	System2 Threadripper 1920x, System1 2699 v3
Motherboard	System2 Asrock Fatality x399 Professional Gaming, System1 Asus X99-A
Cooling	System2 Noctua NH-U14 TR4-SP3 Dual 140mm fans, System1 AIO
Memory	System2 64GBS DDR4 3000, System1 32gbs DDR4 2400
Video Card(s)	System2 GTX 980Ti System1 GTX 970
Storage	System2 4x SSDs + NVme= 2.250TB 2xStorage Drives=8TB System1 3x SSDs=2TB
Display(s)	2x 24" 1080 displays
Case	System2 Some Nzxt case with soundproofing...
Audio Device(s)	Asus Xonar U7 MKII
Power Supply	System2 EVGA 750 Watt, System1 XFX XTR 750 Watt
Mouse	Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum
Keyboard	Ducky
Software	Manjaro, Windows 10, Kubuntu 23.10
Benchmark Scores	It's linux baby!