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As a PC gamer, would you buy a console to play online with your console friends?


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And that hardcore PC gamer is me. So, the obvious question is why would I do it when I have a high spec gaming PC? (see specs)

Answer: Pester Power!

One of my friends is also a hardcore gamer who likes to play online with his friends, some of which I know. However, he's got a PlayStation 4 and of course so do they. He's really wanted me to join them too and has been bugging me to get a PS4 for a good 6 months now. Unfortunately it's a cool £300 or so with the game (Rainbow Six Siege) so I was somewhat reluctant to spend that money to say the least, even though I did want to join them, but the other day I caved in and pulled the trigger after some of his mates joined in the pestering, lol and it arrived last Friday (5th) from Amazon. See, Pester Power works for big kids as well as little kids, lol. :p After I got it, I realized that I'm gonna have to shell out for a PlayStation Plus subscription too to play R6 online. Nice. BTW, I spent a little extra and got the official Sony vertical stand like you see in the picture below, which was well worth it.

Ah well, at least I've already got the headset and just need to get a cheap adapter to make it work with the PS4, which arrives tomorrow.



So, I've been playing around with the PS4, created a PSN account, setting it up, getting used to it and playing R6 in single player mode for some practice (more on that later).

What do I think of it? Well, my Glacier White PS4 (it's actually a light grey) feels like a media centre PC operating in a walled garden which can only be operated with the controller. Besides the stiff prices in the PlayStation store, it feels quite nice to use and it's the later 1200 series chassis too, so it runs nice and quietly, if rather warm while gaming. The controller feels really nice in the hands, too. It's surprising what the IGP in the PS4 can do, credit to AMD. These things have come a long way.

Note that I got the 500GB model over the 1TB model as I wanted the white colour and I don't plan on having loads of games on the PS4 anyway, just the ones I play with my friends. Anyway, I can uninstall the old games I no longer need or just upgrade the HDD to a 2TB one some time later, like my friend has just done.

R6 is interesting. First time I've played it, can see why it's so rated and look forward to playing with my mates online. I don't like the non-regenerating health system though and having to restart a failed mission ("situation" in R6 terms) from the beginning.

The console limitations are quite apparent of course with the lack of framerate (seems to be just 30fps in R6) no graphics adjustments and a monitor refresh of only 60Hz with no option to change it. Still, it plays ok and there was none of the usual setup and troubleshooting faffing that one goes through with a PC game when first started, which is really convenient and quite a plus for a console. Just one inevitable 3GB update first when I inserted the disc and that was it, good to go.

The one thing that bugs me and it's a biggie, is the mouse look with a controller. The view pans round at a fixed speed rather than move proportionally like with a mouse. I can't even find a way to adjust the sensitivity in the game.

This is a serious limitation, screwing up my ability to play a shooter properly since I can't aim accurately and I'm an old hand at these types of games, especially the fast and twitchy Unreal Tournament series. I therefore spend the whole time just fighting to control the aim with this thing instead of just playing the game and keep dying too easily instead of nailing that baddie, even on the easy setting.

It's something I've noticed before which has always put me off a console or using a controller with the PC. The joystick movement control on the other hand is much better than the 4 directions of the WASD keys one uses with a PC, giving fine-grained control over movement due to the smooth, continuous, 360 change of direction it allows. Still, I seem to have managed to work around the mouse look limitation somewhat in R6 in the couple of hours I've been playing it, but I still don't like it. I just hope that with enough practice that I can play it reasonably well and not get too frustrated.


Now, I'm a PC enthusiast, so of course I got curious and want to compare the console version of R6 with the PC version. I had a look on Steam and saw that they've got yet another sale on where the Gold Edition is currently only £36.84 instead of the usual £54.99 until the 12th. Couple of minutes later I'd bought it and it's just finished downloading, all 17GB of it. Gonna give it a go and let you know how it compares. I'm gonna love that mouse look with my PC... ;)

One thing that's not clear to me yet is whether PC players can play online with console players in this game and if they can, I'm gonna sell the PS4 disc, but keep the console for future games.
 

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maybe for you. Interesting read btw.
 
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I own a PS4 as well. I never understood platform wars to be honest. A console is just like a PC in that it is simply a medium to play games and I love to play games. The PS4 has awesome exclusives so I would miss out on some truly great games if I was PC only. I gave up consoles for a LONG time and came back during the XBox 360 days and man was it hard going from PC to Console. You feel like a fish out of water. It took me awhile to get used to it but once I did I found there is some good competition on consoles just like on the PC.

Like you are figuring out the PS4 is great as a media center. In addition to playing exclusives on it I prefer to run Netflix on it as well. Amazon Prime is pretty weak as Amazon's app is pretty pathetic, especially if you want subtitles. PSN also gives out at least 2 free games each month which is cool. This month it is World of Tanks, GRID and Helldivers. Steam will always win but at least you get something for your PSN subscription.

I don't play any of the Rainbow games but most games have a Sensitivity setting. In fact many of the top streamers use very low sensitivities so they can snipe easier. Obviously no on the fly switching like you can do with your mouse, but I usually stick with a sensitivity setting for consistency.


Now that you have a PS4 you have to try Last of Us and Bloodborne since those are the two most PS4 players will mention. That is if you like Souls series (Demon Souls, Dark Souls, etc.), because they are very unforgiving games and Bloodborne is no different. The Uncharted series is also great. I'm not into Infamous as much as some are but they are still solid games so they are worth checking out too.
 
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I own a PS4 as well. I never understood platform wars to be honest. A console is just like a PC in that it is simply a medium to play games and I love to play games. The PS4 has awesome exclusives so I would miss out on some truly great games if I was PC only. I gave up consoles for a LONG time and came back during the XBox 360 days and man was it hard going from PC to Console. You feel like a fish out of water. It took me awhile to get used to it but once I did I found there is some good competition on consoles just like on the PC.

Like you are figuring out the PS4 is great as a media center. In addition to playing exclusives on it I prefer to run Netflix on it as well. Amazon Prime is pretty weak as Amazon's app is pretty pathetic, especially if you want subtitles. PSN also gives out at least 2 free games each month which is cool. This month it is World of Tanks, GRID and Helldivers. Steam will always win but at least you get something for your PSN subscription.

I don't play any of the Rainbow games but most games have a Sensitivity setting. In fact many of the top streamers use very low sensitivities so they can snipe easier. Obviously no on the fly switching like you can do with your mouse, but I usually stick with a sensitivity setting for consistency.


Now that you have a PS4 you have to try Last of Us and Bloodborne since those are the two most PS4 players will mention. That is if you like Souls series (Demon Souls, Dark Souls, etc.), because they are very unforgiving games and Bloodborne is no different. The Uncharted series is also great. I'm not into Infamous as much as some are but they are still solid games so they are worth checking out too.
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I don't get the platform wars, either. A gamer wants to play games. Consoles and PC are just mediums. I just want to play games and, if some games I want are restricted to certain consoles and if the games are good enough for me to warrant purchasing certain consoles, I will do it.

A gamer plays games.

A new version of Fire Emblem is coming to 3DS in a week and I am going to play it, simply because I am a big fan of Fire Emblem, NOT because I am a fan of 3DS.
 
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Yeah, platform wars to me are kind of stupid. I play games I want to play, don't care what they on. I game on handhelds like DS, game on consoles like PS3 and Wii, game on tablet, and game on PC.

O yeah, I can't wait for the new Fire Emblem, need to finish up the other one though.
 
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Poll was a trick. Anyone that said yes is not a hardcore gamer.

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Don't know what to say, other than maybe even with weak exclusive lineups, the console market is still thriving, and even drawing used-to-be exclusive PC players. I feel it's largely due to not just being coerced by friends, but publishers trying desperately to keep consoles as the lead platforms, sometimes via somewhat unscrupulously pushing devs toward parity.

I've played a few games a bit on my friend's PS4. I feel it has good core hardware over the Xone, but I didn't feel comfortable with the controller at all. It's slightly better than the DS3, but the smallish handles still feel like they want to slip out of my hands. I like TLoU, and a few other exclusives, but it won't be enough to entice me into laboriously adapting.
 
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I have some friends that just game on consoles (they own Mac's too *shudders*). I don't know why these people are my friends, they seem to make poor decisions in life.

I'm going to leave now and think about my choice in friends. :(
 
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I have some friends that just game on consoles (they own Mac's too *shudders*). I don't know why these people are my friends, they seem to make poor decisions in life.

I'm going to leave now and think about my choice in friends. :(

Somehow ..., that avatar of yours goes really well with your post.
 

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my brother went down this road.

his PS4 gathers dust now.
 
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Sure....as long as it's a SteamBox.

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Yeah nah ps4 NAAAH
 
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I bought a PS3 once, plus a bunch of games that I don't recall the name of. After 2 weeks of use, it has spent the last 2 years as a DVD player in the bedroom.
 
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I played on the PS2 for a good amount of time, but only fighting and hack and slash games seemed to be OK. The only shooter game that actually worked well with a controller was Resident Evil 4, and that had better support for controls than the crappy PC port (It had awful graphics and no mouse support and you will crash 1-3 times during a playthrough) which I played on a Pentium IV Northwood (I am aware of the HD re-release). After a few years I forgot how to use a console game controller efficiently, on a keyboard with any game I can respond to anything maybe 3x faster because I'm used to the keyboard+mouse so much, it's been a mainstay for me since day I first touched these.

Last time I used an Xbox 360 controller was when playing Sonic Generations and some NES/Sega emulated games, I quickly threw the controller away because gameplay would suffer if I used one. The only time it's useful is when a certain amount of buttons are needed to do combos for games, with a keyboard I can slightly get lost when the game doesn't allow you to rebind keys (which is balls).
 
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I have a PS3 that makes a good media center client, and DVD player when necessary. I attempt to store everything we want to watch on my media server, but getting the stuff there in the first place is... slow.

That said, I do enjoy my PS2 as well as my PC.
 

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Before I gave one of my PS3s to my younger brother, I had a nice setup:
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Running PS3 OS and YellowDog

It was standing right next to my tower and shared almost all peripherals:
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- Monitor had 2 HDMI inputs, which housed both devices comfortably
- Added a 320GB HDD instead of stock 80GB and an external 1TB drive for all of my games and movies (my ex had a huge DVD collection, which was basically asking to be digitized)

There are some things that are much more fun on the console, than on PC. We had occasional weekend gatherings for 4-player sessions of Little Big Planet, and that was by far the best gaming experience since my high-school Quake-II tournaments at the local college computer lab (my neighbor was a teacher there).
 

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I would expect....no, insist that my friends got a PC off me instead.

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Well, my Glacier White PS4 (it's actually a light grey) feels like a media centre PC operating in a walled garden which can only be operated with the controller.
Because that is the console's nature.

Still, it plays ok and there was none of the usual setup and troubleshooting faffing that one goes through with a PC game when first started, which is really convenient and quite a plus for a console.
Usually that's not necessary unless you have a weird monitor set up. For example, when I started Witcher 3 for the first time, I literally had to change nothing. It correctly detected my 1920x1200 monitor and Xbox 360 controller. The first-run experience is exactly identical to console version except one important part: when I feel like using the crossbow, all I have to do do is grab the mouse and fire away without this bullshit...
The one thing that bugs me and it's a biggie, is the mouse look with a controller. The view pans round at a fixed speed rather than move proportionally like with a mouse. I can't even find a way to adjust the sensitivity in the game.
...it's like trying to crochet with an axe. Sure you could do it but the final product will look like crap.


This is a serious limitation, screwing up my ability to play a shooter properly since I can't aim accurately and I'm an old hand at these types of games, especially the fast and twitchy Unreal Tournament series.
My expression when anyone suggests console shooter:


Gonna give it a go and let you know how it compares.
No paying for multiplayer, that's for sure.

One thing that's not clear to me yet is whether PC players can play online with console players in this game and if they can, I'm gonna sell the PS4 disc, but keep the console for future games.
See above. Only a handful of games allowed this (Halo and Shadowrun) way back and, for shooters, they haven't let them intermingle much (at all?) since. Even when they give the console players aimbots, they still get slaughtered.



As to your poll, the only correct answer is to buy all of your friends Rainbow Six Siege for PC so they know how shitty their console is. It would have probably cost you less. :p
 
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Motherboard MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk/HP SFF Q77 Express/uh?/uh?/Asus
Cooling Enermax ETS-T50 Axe aRGB /basic HP HSF /errr.../oh! liqui..wait, no:sizable vapor chamber/a nice one
Memory 64gb Corsair Vengeance Pro 3600mhz DDR4/8gb DDR3 1600/2gb LPDDR3/8gb LPDDR5x 4200/16gb LPDDR5
Video Card(s) Hellhound Spectral White RX 7900 XTX 24gb/GT 730/Mali 450MP5/Adreno 740/RDNA3 768 core
Storage 250gb870EVO/500gb860EVO/2tbSandisk/NVMe2tb+1tb/4tbextreme V2/1TB Arion/500gb/8gb/256gb/2tb SN770M
Display(s) X58222 32" 2880x1620/32"FHDTV/273E3LHSB 27" 1920x1080/6.67"/AMOLED 2X panel FHD+120hz/FHD 120hz
Case Cougar Panzer Max/Elite 8300 SFF/None/back/back-front Gorilla Glass Victus 2+ UAG Monarch Carbon
Audio Device(s) Logi Z333/SB Audigy RX/HDMI/HDMI/Dolby Atmos/KZ x HBB PR2/Edifier STAX Spirit S3 & SamsungxAKG beans
Power Supply Chieftec Proton BDF-1000C /HP 240w/12v 1.5A/4Smart Voltplug PD 30W/Asus USB-C 65W
Mouse Speedlink Sovos Vertical-Asus ROG Spatha-Logi Ergo M575/Xiaomi XMRM-006/touch/touch
Keyboard Endorfy Thock 75% <3/none/touch/virtual
VR HMD Medion Erazer
Software Win10 64/Win8.1 64/Android TV 8.1/Android 13/Win11 64
Benchmark Scores bench...mark? i do leave mark on bench sometime, to remember which one is the most comfortable. :o
not into the war, tho i wouldn't get a console just to play online with a friend (some game offer a cross platform online )
tho for some exclusives i often get a console (that i end up reselling later ) but i still kept Halo series, Bayonetta, Lost Odyssey and Magna Carta 2 for Xbox 360 even if i sold my X360 a while ago ... personal feeling and collector syndrome.
 

Frick

Fishfaced Nincompoop
Joined
Feb 27, 2006
Messages
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Location
Piteå
System Name Black MC in Tokyo
Processor Ryzen 5 5600
Motherboard Asrock B450M-HDV
Cooling Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2
Memory 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury 3400mhz
Video Card(s) XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319
Storage Kingston A400 240GB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB
Display(s) Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p
Case Fractal Design Define R4
Audio Device(s) Line6 UX1 + some headphones, Nektar SE61 keyboard
Power Supply Corsair RM850x v3
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Cherry MX Board 1.0 TKL Brown
VR HMD Acer Mixed Reality Headset
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Rimworld 4K ready!
I don't know any gamers really so I wouldnt by one for that reason. I've always wanted a PS2 though. Or rather a first gen PS3.

If I had a TV and lived the kind of life that I actually spent time in front of it I might have an XB1.
 

AlienIsGOD

Vanguard Beta Tester
Joined
Aug 9, 2008
Messages
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Location
Kingston, Ontario Canada
System Name Aliens Ryzen Rig | 2nd Hand Omen
Processor Ryzen R5 5600 | Ryzen R5 3600
Motherboard Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite (F61 BIOS) | B450 matx
Cooling DeepCool Castle EX V2 240mm AIO| stock for now
Memory 8GB X 2 DDR4 3000mhz Team Group Vulcan | 16GB DDR4
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse RX 5700 8GB | GTX 1650 4GB
Storage Adata XPG 8200 PRO 512GB SSD OS / 240 SSD + 2TB M.2 SSD Games / 1000 GB Data | SSD + HDD
Display(s) Acer ED273 27" VA 144hz Freesync |TCL 32" 1080P w/ HDR
Case NZXT H500 Black | HP Omen Obelisk
Audio Device(s) Onboard Realtek | Onboard Realtek
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G3 650w 80+ Gold | 500w
Mouse Steelseries Rival 500 15 button mouse w/ Razor Goliathus Chroma XL mousemat | Logitech G502
Keyboard Logitech G910 Orion Spark RGB w/ Romer G tactile keys | Logitech G513 Carbon w/ Romer G tactile keys
Software Windows 10 Pro | Windows 10 Pro
hey 2006 called, they want their fanbois back :p really? its 2016 who care if ppl have a PC and/or Console. I have an Xbox One simply because EA NHL series stopped in 09 on PC and the fact both my kids love it. smh
 
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