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Hardware Unboxed benchmarks: Ryzen 3 vs. Core i5 2500K vs. FX-8370

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Hardware Unboxed, together with Gamer's Nexus and Digital Foundry are my favorite Youtube video reviewers. Techpowerup, however, is still my favorite web page reviewer...:lovetpu:

That being said i absolutely love benchmarks which include old stuff tested vs. new stuff! So, Steve from Hardware Unboxed did it once again - pitting the new Ryzen 3 processors vs. the legendary Core i5 2500K and iconic FX-8370.

Honestly, after watching this video i think AMD FX users should just die at this point:D


Have fun!
 
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I kinda like how detailed adoredtv tries to be in his videos, but that said he's still amd biased to put it lightly,although he likes to say he isn't. Dunno how the hell he came up with the conclusion that fx 8300 was a better buy than 2500K in the long run cause of how multithreaded games these days are. The videos clearly shows fx8 getting beat soundly when running a gtx 1080.
I agree that Steve is very likeable and his commentary is nice.
 

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All this really tells me is that my FX-8350@4.6GHz needs replacing...but I already knew that.
 

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All this really tells me is that my X 5670 @4.5GHz doesnt need replacing...but I already knew that.


Long live socket 1366........:peace:
 

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#5
He could of pushed that 2500k harder on the OC. mine was 4.9Ghz which would of had it inch ahead by a small but half decent margin vs the R5 1400.

There was no game i couldnt play with my 2500k at that speed :p
 
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I like two of those channels as well, they're really nice! I find it amusing that you say the 8350 is "iconic" - iconic at being bad? Well maybe, but I'm not sure that this would be the definition of being an icon. :rolleyes::laugh:
I kinda like how detailed adoredtv tries to be in his videos, but that said he's still amd biased to put it lightly,although he likes to say he isn't. Dunno how the hell he came up with the conclusion that fx 8300 was a better buy than 2500K in the long run cause of how multithreaded games these days are. The videos clearly shows fx8 getting beat soundly when running a gtx 1080.
I agree that Steve is very likeable and his commentary is nice.
Adored is someone who likes to spin everything as he likes. Sometimes he is an avid AMD fanboy (and gets nice stuff from them, like expensive Vega Aqua Edition and Ryzen stuff) and sometimes (lately) he is the right opposite, in total enrage mode hating against them. Main reason I don't give a shit about him anymore. His words aren't to be trusted imo - there are much much better channels in youtube. But none of those catch the quality of Anand/Toms/TPU/PCGH, websites I regularly read and a good mix to cover everything. Youtube has other upsides, like live streams where you can actually see what happens live, practical testing, simply more to see and stuff, it's also nice when you're not able to read but able to listen, doing some other things at the same time.
 
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All this really tells me is that my FX-8350@4.6GHz needs replacing...but I already knew that.
These tests were run years ago...:p

dat ryzen 3 tho.. ;)
 
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Hardware Unboxed is an awesome tech channel, probably my favourite, was an interesting video, FX users probably time to upgrade if you can afford it.

Honestly, after watching this video i think AMD FX users should just die at this point
Uumm what? You should really reword that a bit better.
 
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Uumm what? You should really reword that a bit better.
I think he's an east european and I know they talk like that - nvm. I think what he means is, that AMD users who see this video die from seeing the bad performance of it compared to the others. :laugh:
 
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I'm going to be using my 2500k till 2020 at this rate.
 
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I'm going to be using my 2500k till 2020 at this rate.
I have no regrets replacing my entire system last year. I'm just sad I gave my i5 2500K (at 4GHz, like yours) to my brother who doesn't use it...
 
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I think he's an east european and I know they talk like that - nvm. I think what he means is, that AMD users who see this video die from seeing the bad performance of it compared to the others. :laugh:
No, we literally mean they should drop dead.
 
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No, we literally mean they should drop dead.
Then it's even more funny he spoke about the FX 8350 as an "icon". :laugh: Icon of low IPC and efficiency or what.
 
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Then it's even more funny he spoke about the FX 8350 as an "icon". :laugh: Icon of low IPC and efficiency or what.
No, he meant "i co... nic!" not "iconic", which means the cpu had high expectations and turned out to be a nothing burger, like they say in America.

Anyway, 4c/4t Ryzen @4ghz seems a tiny bit faster than 4.4GHz Sandy, but did he mention what memory speed he was running on both systems ?
 
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No, he meant "i co... nic!" not "iconic", which means the cpu had high expectations and turned out to be a nothing burger, like they say in America.
The funny thing about FX is, they needed over 5, yes FIVE, years to have a higher IPC with it than with Phenom II! Phenom II was released early 2009 and only with Steamroller (2014, 3rd gen FX) they had a higher IPC. "Piledriver" was actually on par, Bulldozer was LOWER ipc than Phenom II. In the end, they gambled on "coaaarss, mooooar coaars" and it was a utter fail, because almost nobody cared about having so many cores so early. So the CPU was left with low IPC due to having so many cores and the gamble failed spectacularly. It wasn't even good enough to be used in consoles, there they rather opted to use a low power CPU originally made for small notebooks and hand devices.
 
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The funny thing about FX is, they needed over 5, yes FIVE, years to have a higher IPC with it than with Phenom II! Phenom II was released early 2009 and only with Steamroller (2014, 3rd gen FX) they had a higher IPC. "Piledriver" was actually on par, Bulldozer was LOWER ipc than Phenom II. In the end, they gambled on "coaaarss, mooooar coaars" and it was a utter fail, because almost nobody cared about having so many cores so early. So the CPU was left with low IPC due to having so many cores and the gamble failed spectacularly. It wasn't even good enough to be used in consoles, there they rather opted to use a low power CPU originally made for small notebooks and hand devices.
Correct.
 
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Still playing games at 1080 60fps on the 5 year old FX. I will switch to Ryzen some time in the future but not for the sake of gaining more performance in games because really , I wont , not at that resolution and framerate.
 
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All this really tells me is that my FX-8350@4.6GHz needs replacing...but I already knew that.
All this really tells me is that my X 5670 @4.5GHz doesnt need replacing...but I already knew that.


Long live socket 1366........:peace:
All this really tells me... Is that I've got to watch the video, but I already knew that! :p
 
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I'm not changing mine until it breaks, or is unable to open a modern browser with relative ease.
 
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Still playing games at 1080 60fps on the 5 year old FX. I will switch to Ryzen some time in the future but not for the sake of gaining more performance in games because really , I wont , not at that resolution and framerate.
Certainly not all of them can do 1080/60 on your FX. I'd wager most of them can't, you're just talking big. Hundreds of tests prove it can't keep up. It'd get destroyed in any open world game like GTA5 or Watch Dogs 2. Hell, my 4.9GHz 2500K could not do perfect 60 fps @1080p paired with 290X trix back in 2014.
 
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Certainly not all of them can do 1080/60. Hell, my 4.9GHz could not do perfect 60 fps @1080p paired with 290X trix back in 2014.
Nope , pretty much all games that I played run at 60fps fairly consistent. The only game that truly goes way below 60 at times is Crysis 3 , but that one only runs smoothly on 8+ threads CPU. I certainly didn't tried all games and some might have dip here and there in terms of fps but nothing major. I certainly wouldn't have bought a 1060 if wasn't like that. Pretty much all CPUs from the last 5 years with 4+ threads will give you 60fps more or less.

Games like Doom and Prey where I constantly get 80+ fps prove that for the rest APIs are at fault for poor performance because of CPU overhead not the CPU itself. AdoredTV didn't speak out of his ass on this one , he just though APIs will get much better in the future and well , they didn't. Poor job on behalf of MS for sticking with antiquated programming paradigms in their APIs.
 
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LOL you mean 1080p/60 AVERAGE ? Ok, I kinda see your point now, but avg. fps is still a crappy reflection of how a game runs. I just didn't imagine someone would use avg. fps as a reference, but expect no one but a FX6 owner who swears it can keep up with no problem to do that in the first place.....
 
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LOL you mean 1080p/60 AVERAGE ?
Yeah , "LOL" it seems that when you reply to people you apparently have no idea what that person was even talking about. Look back at my comments I always said 1080/60fps average.

fps is still a crappy reflection of how a game runs.
If you think it's crappy why are you basing your opinions on those in the first place? Come dude stop spinning it around every which way you want , we both know you don't really know what you're talking about ;)
 
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#24
Either stop trolling or come out of your bubble, of course avg fps is no reflection of how it works, it's only good at comparing GPUs. If a benchmark shows 49 fps min. and 74 fps. avg the game WILL run at below 60 fps way more often than it's acceptable to call it 1080/60. Percentage graphs show how a game runs. Not avg. fps graphs.

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This squabble ends here.