Has everyone read: Reasons We Share Personal Data section in Windows 10 Microsoft Privacy Statement

[dorsetknob]

Its not a matter of "finding things". Its a matter of using innocent private info against you. Blackmail and such. We already have cases here in the US of "Homeland Security" agents (Still sounds like Russian propaganda to me) using info to crush romantic rivals in the civilian world. You know what? They didn't even lose their jobs for doing it. To me that's what is scary. Lone government agents taking it upon themselves to deem what is moral and what isn't.

you have to consider the future as well
Why not be paranoid we know they are watching us

events that happen now do matter Laws Change and info gathered now may be used against you next year or some time in the future
Example
You go online today to defend your GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS

2 years time when that right is removed OBunnywabet's amendment change or President Rupal repeals your right to bear arms
then the NSA /FBI / CIA /ATF trawl their database and look "a gun nut lets send in a armed Swat Team to Search to see if he got guns" oh he is black carefull not to shoot him (Smirk ).

Wont Happen you Say well its happened here in the uk allready

once upon a time japanese art called Henta / manga you know sword wielding japanese scantly clad CARTOON Pictures of girls were legal to posses ( never saw the appeal of cartoon porn myself ).
Law about porn changed now they class them as child porn and not art if you were in to Henta / manga and you downloaded art ect your now a criminal

YES A CRIM of THE WORSE SORT
those download records of yesteryear/ now can be used as evidence for search seizure and prosecution today.

go to copenhagen and photograph this

Under British law this Could now be classified as child porn

Mod edit to remove if you feel its necessary

 

[broken pixel]

https://duckduckgo.com

 

[qubit]

Its not a matter of "finding things". Its a matter of using innocent private info against you. Blackmail and such. We already have cases here in the US of "Homeland Security" agents (Still sounds like Russian propaganda to me) using info to crush romantic rivals in the civilian world. You know what? They didn't even lose their jobs for doing it. To me that's what is scary. Lone government agents taking it upon themselves to deem what is moral and what isn't.

Shit, were's Carrie when you need her. She was never the same after they killed Brody.

 

[dorsetknob]

https://duckduckgo.com

on a linux browser as windows 10 keylogs to improve your searches ect

 

[micropage7]

Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders)

so basically they want to see anything that you run or save in your pc, F%%% you M$

 

[cadaveca]

so basically they want to see anything that you run or save in your pc, F%%% you M$

It's hardly hidden that Microsoft wants to provide the software that you run your life by. They can only do this if they know about you, and deliver a "personalized experience". What's on your PC is rather irrelevant. Win10 is very much about creating a personalized profile for each and every user (Live account). Note that account name.

 

[micropage7]

It's hardly hidden that Microsoft wants to provide the software that you run your life by. They can only do this if they know about you, and deliver a "personalized experience". What's on your PC is rather irrelevant. Win10 is very much about creating a personalized profile for each and every user (Live account). Note that account name.

could be, but anyway its kinda make me worried since we dont know actually what kind of data that they gonna take in the name of for better user experience

will M$ gonna handle their customer data right? thats another question, only time will tell

 

[cadaveca]

could be, but anyway its kinda make me worried since we dont know actually what kind of data that they gonna take in the name of for better user experience

will M$ gonna handle their customer data right? thats another question, only time will tell

We can force their hand pretty easily. Corporations are usually not nefarious... it is usually a case of a bad apple or two. To me, education about how things are taking place is important, but many times it gets blown out of proportion. At least it gets attention, but I fear that people won't take things seriously with all the people out there crying "Wolf!".

 

[broken pixel]

Microsquish main reason of collecting user data is to sell to third party corporations for profit, hell if they would share a percentage of that profit they could data mine my every login. Streamlining the user experience/ life with apps to collect personal data, what a crock of shi@t! 99% of the Corporate world does not give a hoot about it's consumers, it is all about about maximizing profits at the consumers expense.

 

[broken pixel]

It's hardly hidden that Microsoft wants to provide the software that you run your life by. They can only do this if they know about you, and deliver a "personalized experience". What's on your PC is rather irrelevant. Win10 is very much about creating a personalized profile for each and every user (Live account). Note that account name.

From MS Code of Conduct- Rules for the user to follow not MS.
ix. Don’t engage in activity that violates the privacy of others.

 

[R-T-B]

On this note:

I finally put my money where my mouth is. Privacy concerns have made me switch. I went through the winedb, and found that most of my games run on Linux. I compiled a custom gentoo, and I daresay it runs faster than windows... It boots faster anyways and games run as fast in most instances (some like Rome that have a native OpenGL renderer and are CPU bound, run faster). It is using the Cinnamon desktop manager (none of that gnome 3 shit), and it works fine.

My games work fine. I may miss directX 12 but Vulkan will hopefully see some good things with time. NVIDIA graphics drivers for linux have always been top notch (can't say the same for the windows ones lol).

Games I've been playing the most on Linux lately, this list may surprise you.

Cities: Skylines
Rome 2 Total War.
ARK: Survival evolved
Silent Hunter 5 with a shitton of mods
Tropico 4.

Only one I'm missing right now from my main collection of "must-haves" is Elite Dangerous, but it's so optimized I suspect it will run. Will try this weekend.

I'm pleasantly surprised, but I built this distro by hand using gentoo. Your mileage with some of the precompiled linux garbage out there may vary, as always.

 

[Bot]

If this really scares people than they should also stop using Google, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Verizon, IBM, Facebook and many many others. All of the big tech players do it.
It is almost impossible to provide you the fluency in services without storing personal data. You want to use a credit card for an in-app purchase you need to store some personal data, you want to log in to your gaming account with your facebook account you need to store personal data, even something simple like a 2-step verification stores data.

So please, cut up all your credit cards and use cash only, dip your fingertips in acid regularly, destroy your cellphone and stay of the interwebs and the wifis

 

[Mr McC]

If this really scares people than they should also stop using Google, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Verizon, IBM, Facebook and many many others. All of the big tech players do it.
It is almost impossible to provide you the fluency in services without storing personal data. You want to use a credit card for an in-app purchase you need to store some personal data, you want to log in to your gaming account with your facebook account you need to store personal data, even something simple like a 2-step verification stores data.

So please, cut up all your credit cards and use cash only, dip your fingertips in acid regularly, destroy your cellphone and stay of the interwebs and the wifis

Perhaps opposition is futile, but acquiescence based on the inevitability of the outcome can be construed as a self-fulfilling prophecy, and objection, however pointless, should be praised, rather than derided.

 

[R-T-B]

It is almost impossible to provide you the fluency in services without storing personal data. You want to use a credit card for an in-app purchase you need to store some personal data, you want to log in to your gaming account with your facebook account you need to store personal data, even something simple like a 2-step verification stores data.

Bullshit. 2 step verification and purchase orders requires an account of course, but virtually everything else can be performed with local data storage in the browser. Companies don't want to do this of course, but it is possible.

 

[dorsetknob]

If this really scares people than they should also stop using Google, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Verizon, IBM, Facebook and many many others. All of the big tech players do it.
It is almost impossible to provide you the fluency in services without storing personal data. You want to use a credit card for an in-app purchase you need to store some personal data, you want to log in to your gaming account with your facebook account you need to store personal data, even something simple like a 2-step verification stores data.

So please, cut up all your credit cards and use cash only, dip your fingertips in acid regularly, destroy your cellphone and stay of the interwebs and the wifis

Another asswiper who does not understand Privacy concerns

we accept that in order to have a online life we have to give info what we object to is the total intent of these companys to track us moniter us sell our info to 3rd and forth parties beyond our control

 

[Vayra86]

If this really scares people than they should also stop using Google, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Verizon, IBM, Facebook and many many others. All of the big tech players do it.
It is almost impossible to provide you the fluency in services without storing personal data. You want to use a credit card for an in-app purchase you need to store some personal data, you want to log in to your gaming account with your facebook account you need to store personal data, even something simple like a 2-step verification stores data.

So please, cut up all your credit cards and use cash only, dip your fingertips in acid regularly, destroy your cellphone and stay of the interwebs and the wifis

There is still moderation and observation here, something you obviously lack because you only think in terms of black and white / all or nothing. I don't.

- I don't have Facebook
- I do have Steam, using overlay and friends
- I don't have Twitter
- I do have an e-mail account
- I do use Android and Google for its perks, among which: the ability to block data sharing where and how I want it, while using apps that dó share data that I feel is of advantage to my personal use
- When the time comes to move to W10 (now is not that time) I will enable it through a local account with all data sharing options disabled, not just the vanilla ones

I could go on. But even in todays' incredibly connected society you still have every freedom to decide what you share and what you don't share, as long as you know what you're doing. I definitely do see the advantages of big data, for example (and especially) while travelling, booking a hotel or finding a taxi. Do I perhaps share things that may compromise me in some way? Perhaps. But that was never different before the internet existed either, the only difference is the means through which you 'share', willingly or unwillingly. Before the internet a single piece of paper could destroy your life, and today it still can. The only difference is that these pieces of paper are now digital too, and much easier to copy and share.

 

[Bot]

exactly, people need to be careful what information they share in the first place rather than to worry about who is storing, sharing and accessing it once it is out. I do understand some of those privacy concerns but I am much more worried if this information is shared with the gov than another private company. do I like it, no I don't but you have to give a little to get a little. W10 would not given away for free if they were completely unable and disallowed to use data. many services would not be free. I am not eager to pay for them if they want to know information about me that is mostly public anyway.
please don't be fooled to believe that there is not a loophole for the opt-out privacy policy. there are very few companies that on even fewer occasions push back to give up your information if the fed knocks on the door. also keep in mind that most of those policies only limit the sharing of information with 3rd parties. that does not mean that they don't store your data, nor does that mean that sub-contractors of the organization won't have access to it.

 

[Uplink10]

W10 would not given away for free if they were completely unable and disallowed to use data.

Windows 10 is practically service pack for Windows 8.1 and Windows 8.1 did not get any service pack since its release which means that Microsoft cheated Windows 8.1 users into getting the service pack free for the first year but after that year you will have to pay for service pack called Windows 10.

How can nobody see this? Microsof is practically not releasing any service packs for the OS that is supposed is still getting service packs and instead they make a service pack and sell it as a full product.

I deduct that service pack support period is now useless judging by this situation.

 

[ZenZimZaliben]

If you really want to disable all the M$ spy shit, stop them at the your router. Here is a list of all addresses to block - http://pastebin.com/RZW74Npk

 

[kn00tcn]

anyone writing M$ looks like a moron, this isnt aimed personally but more about the term itself

I love all the hate on Microsoft about windows 10. Its like you people didn't expect this or it was slid under your nose. or masqueraded as a Christmas gift. Do you really like hating Microsoft that much that you have some how managed to forget the EULAs that have taken pretty much everything you think your entitled to "own" online?

there is quite a difference between opt-in/nicknames/avatars/segregated services compared to the whole OS with all data & greyed out options

there is also quite a difference between enabling by default while pressuring the masses compared to 'check out this cool product, by the way we need to do X for Y feature'

again there is a difference between 'there is a new recommended driver available' compared to 'updates are forced'

how about the bitlocker key if it really is automatically online without any options, it doesnt have to be a tin foil honeypot, but it's simply a security risk in the future (including hackers or rogue employees, not gov/corporate conspiracies)

do you REALLY think win10 hasnt jumped by a lot compared to previous versions & manual sign up online services?

If this really scares people than they should also stop using Google, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Verizon, IBM, Facebook and many many others. All of the big tech players do it.
It is almost impossible to provide you the fluency in services without storing personal data. You want to use a credit card for an in-app purchase you need to store some personal data, you want to log in to your gaming account with your facebook account you need to store personal data, even something simple like a 2-step verification stores data.

So please, cut up all your credit cards and use cash only, dip your fingertips in acid regularly, destroy your cellphone and stay of the interwebs and the wifis

it's not about some random personal data that is already in multiple databases, it's about being the OS, the wording mentioning 'private files', not having options to disable things

Windows 10 is practically service pack for Windows 8.1 and Windows 8.1 did not get any service pack since its release which means that Microsoft cheated Windows 8.1 users into getting the service pack free for the first year but after that year you will have to pay for service pack called Windows 10.

How can nobody see this? Microsof is practically not releasing any service packs for the OS that is supposed is still getting service packs and instead they make a service pack and sell it as a full product.

I deduct that service pack support period is now useless judging by this situation.

your entitlement doesnt make any of your beliefs true

WDDM2, multiplatform from console to phone to desktop, & other architectural changes make it a new OS

that's not what service packs have done in the past, win7 doesnt have SP2, most SPs are pretty much cumulative updates

where is the line? should 7 be vista SP3? windows ME to be 98 SE2?

how about the 3 year major consumer timeline? 95 1995, 98 1998, xp 2001, (delayed due to problems as a fact) vista 2006, 7 2009, 8 2012, 10 2015

stop pretending

This invasion of privacy actually keeps me up at night, yet many of you gentlemen consider it a joke. I was happy to cut the cable cord, but I'm thinking of cutting the internet cord as well. "This" isn't what I envisioned when I first hopped on the 'net in '92 using command line. It's turned into a nightmare for privacy and frankly it seems like quite a few of you that understand what is going on here are quite ok with it. This concerns me greatly.

I'm in the wrong place, you won't see me here again.

Best Regards,

Liquid Cool

i barely know of you, but already miss you if serious... Liquid Cool was last seen: Aug 10, 2015

 

[Static~Charge]

Microsquish main reason of collecting user data is to sell to third party corporations for profit

And now you know why that upgrade to Windows 10 is "free".

 

[R-T-B]

People seem to forget 8.1 was basically a service pack for 8...

 

[Ahhzz]

.....
Only one I'm missing right now from my main collection of "must-haves" is Elite Dangerous, but it's so optimized I suspect it will run. Will try this weekend.

would be very interested to hear about that....

 

[Uplink10]

your entitlement doesnt make any of your beliefs true

WDDM2, multiplatform from console to phone to desktop, & other architectural changes make it a new OS

that's not what service packs have done in the past, win7 doesnt have SP2, most SPs are pretty much cumulative updates

where is the line? should 7 be vista SP3? windows ME to be 98 SE2?

how about the 3 year major consumer timeline? 95 1995, 98 1998, xp 2001, (delayed due to problems as a fact) vista 2006, 7 2009, 8 2012, 10 2015

stop pretending

What is the point of Microsoft issuing service pack support period if they are not going to release any service pack?

And do not talk with me about WDDM because if you install it, it will replace your AMD drivers and then CCC will not start because it does not recognize any device. Windows 8.1 offers me WDDM but if I install them instead of just being installed in the background if AMD drivers malfunction or are deleted they replace them and then you have to uninstall drivers for AMD card drivers (which are WDDM) and install AMD's drivers again.

We all know that Windows 7 SP1 without integrated updates is a big security risk because you have to download over 200 updates and this is not exactly secure and practical especially since you will be doing a clean install.

The point is Microsoft is not exactly supporting its products since (before non-security bug support for Windows 7 ended there were still issues which Microsoft did not fix) releasing a new product. Sure, it provides security updates but is is important to also provide other updates for which it promised support. And if one man can integrate updates into .iso Windows file why the hell cannot Microsoft release monthly updated .iso files for its Windows products? They have the manpower and money.

People seem to forget 8.1 was basically a service pack for 8...

But it wasn't, SP is SP and .1 update is .1 update. I bet that Microsoft will not release any SP in Windows 8 supposed service pack support perriod.

 

[Deelron]

If this really scares people than they should also stop using Google, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Verizon, IBM, Facebook and many many others. All of the big tech players do it.
It is almost impossible to provide you the fluency in services without storing personal data. You want to use a credit card for an in-app purchase you need to store some personal data, you want to log in to your gaming account with your facebook account you need to store personal data, even something simple like a 2-step verification stores data.

So please, cut up all your credit cards and use cash only, dip your fingertips in acid regularly, destroy your cellphone and stay of the interwebs and the wifis

They all don't do "it" (particularly to the same degree), and they all don't monetize the data they do happen to collect via third parties, unless you believe some companies are lying to the SEC and their own investors. This everybody does "it" blanket statement is simply not true.