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Haswell to end the CPU Upgrade?

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Here is a story over at TweakTown stating the end to Intel's LGA/PGA socket configuration and leaving only the BGA (chip soldered to the motherboard) option!!! :eek:


http://www.tweaktown.com/news/26947...of_the_road_for_upgrading_your_cpu/index.html


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For as long as I remember, I've loved having the ability of upgrading the CPU in my computer - back in the days of the original Pentium (and even before that), and the glory days of the Celeron 300A - the option was always there, but it could have its days numbered.

According to a report, starting with Intel's Broadwell generation of processors, Intel will only offer mainstream desktop CPUs in BGA packaging - killing upgrade options, and hurting PC makers. Starting with Broadwell, Intel's CPUs will depart the current land grid array (LGA) and micro pin grid array (µPGA) packages, and only offering chips in ball grid array (BGA) form factors, just like their Atom processors.

Read more at http://www.tweaktown.com/news/26947...ading_your_cpu/index.html#vtSGKdsYgKZLOsz4.99
 

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At least all those thumb-fingered CPU pin bender types won't have any more reason to send back all those motherboards - or maybe they'll find a new part to FUBAR - "Never underestimate the power of human stupidity"
 
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It's not the end to CPU upgrades as we know it.

Workstations and high ended machines will be allowed to use SLOTS for CPUs just like it was in the days of SLOT-1 and SLOT-A.

Nobody panic just yet ....
 
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It probably won't change a thing for people who have used and use sockets like 1366->2011 etc.

It's more likely to happen for the mainstream sockets like 1156/1155/1150.
 
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OFN, repost...........and simply NOT TRUE. I can only tell you I heard that from the horse's mouth... or as close as I can get to it (and said that in the other thread).
 

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OFN, repost...........and simply NOT TRUE. I can only tell you I heard that from the horse's mouth... or as close as I can get to it (and said that in the other thread).
What, Intel isn't doing this? You sure?

There's several reporters at various websites who claim to have spoken to industry sources that say this is true. If Intel isn't doing this, then they could just release a PR refuting this, couldn't they?
 
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What I was essentially told is this: Sockets will not be going away. Intel will offer socketed processors to our consumer and enthusiast space DIY spaces and provide them with products.
 
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Its Broadwell that will have the CPU soldered to the motherboard,not haswell.
 
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Nope.

BGA is already done in some of the laptop space already, so while I believe it will still be done there, my source states it will not happen across the board essentially.

I mean, this guy could easily be pulling our chain.. I didnt even reach out to him, he saw the thread at OCF and PM'd me that information. Problem is, I cant reveal the source as he asked not to be quoted and revealed.
 
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MY source told me by then end of 2014 VIA will have put Intel out of business.
 
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What I was essentially told is this: Sockets will not be going away. Intel will offer socketed processors to our consumer and enthusiast space DIY spaces and provide them with products.
Well, I sure hope your mystery source is right and not all those other mystery sources. :)
 
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Publically? You got any links?
 
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“Intel remains committed to the growing desktop enthusiast and channel markets, and will continue to offer socketed parts in the LGA package for the foreseeable future for our customers and the Enthusiast DIY market,”

Astoundingly close to what I said ehh? :)

I changed my sources wording but I have exactly that in a PM. :)
 
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That's good, now you have to leak something about 8 cores HEDT CPUs on LGA 2011 :p
 

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“Intel remains committed to the growing desktop enthusiast and channel markets, and will continue to offer socketed parts in the LGA package for the foreseeable future for our customers and the Enthusiast DIY market,”

Astoundingly close to what I said ehh? :)

I changed my sources wording but I have exactly that in a PM. :)
You smug whatsit! :p I guess you've earned it though.

I remember when Intel did that presentation a few months ago on all the fantastic overclocking features in Haswell - much better than IB. It seems strange to spend good money developing that technology only to throw it all away for the next generation, doesn't it? That's why I always take stuff like this with a pinch of salt until we see an official response or a product announcement.
 
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Heh... I cant help it. I most certainly understand why people wouldnt believe an unsourced yayhoo on the webzzz vs reputable sites.
 
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The more I look at it the more I see Intel would lose from doing this while AMD would gain greatly from this should it happen. While I'm not entirely convinced about this (other than they may do this for cheaper office PCs which are likely to get replaced opposed to being upgraded) I have noticed Intel going cheap on their latest Ivybridge CPUs with the non-soldering cooling for the metal plate on their CPUs which is why I will stick with my Sandybridge CPU until Haswell comes out where hopefully they will be an improvement to my current system (and where hopefully Intel won't do the same cheap thing with Ivybridge or anything else ridiculous).