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Haswell-ULT Processors Could Use 24 MHz BClk, New C-States, and MCM to Cut Power Draw

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Going into 2013, Intel's tough balancing act between keeping a low power/thermal envelope, and advancing performance, all while staying on the 22 nm silicon fab process, will be care of its Core "Haswell-ULT" processor. The chip will feature some radical changes to traditional Intel processor design, which will help it achieve its design goals. According to a deck of leaked slides scored by Expreview, Intel plans to use additional C-states that drop the processor's base clock, and redesign the processor package to accommodate the PCH silicon, reducing the board footprint.

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I'm not sure if this is good news or bad news, to be honest.

Where does it leave the average enthusiast, again?



Lets hope we get more details soon.......please, Intel??


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I'm not sure if this is good news or bad news, to be honest.

Where does it leave the average enthusiast, again?



Lets hope we get more details soon.......please, Intel??


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They won't leave the Mainstream enthusiast in the cold. What this looks like to me is a few new power saving features and a couple of other things. If you read.... with the Power features for example.... the CPU will not have a Bus always running @ 24Mhz .... it will just be able to be capable of it in Deep sleep states.
 
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Intel so much innovation , yet cant make proper video drivers.
 
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we was talking about something like this a while back on another forum where it seems like a sandy cpu will drop to 50blk whilst idle to save power and trick us into thinking they are much better at power saving too, couldnt get images of it as anything which tried made it jump back up but its interesting to see intel are doing it to a larger degree on upcoming chips too.
 
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I think we're screwed. Intel has been slowly removing overclocking options with the last 3 platforms and its going to continue.
 
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Intel so much innovation , yet cant make proper video drivers.
Intel bought so many other companies for there intellectual property
- DEC alpha is one.
- Cray interconnects

And there video chips where also owned by another company thus why they can't make decent drivers for them. real 3d i think ...
 

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I think we're screwed. Intel has been slowly removing overclocking options with the last 3 platforms and its going to continue.
Haswell ULT are low power mobile chips, they have nothing to do with the desktop parts.

ULT would have an onboard PCH known as the Lynx Point-LP which is thoroughly detailed in the article.

The notebook and desktop Haswell CPUs come with new overclocking features, slides from legitreviews below:


 

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Intel bought so many other companies for there intellectual property
- DEC alpha is one.
- Cray interconnects

And there video chips where also owned by another company thus why they can't make decent drivers for them. real 3d i think ...
Atom uses PowerVR i think.
 
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I smell many mini-ITX boards to come from this, with no need for so much space on the board. Now we can get many small boards, because with most of the things on the chip itself then the only reason to make a larger MB would be for multi GPU's in which they will only need to make them longer for the PCI slots, but keep the same narrowness.

I could see boards going like a hybrid m-itx/atx the length of ATX for the slots and the narrowness of m-itx with no south bridge etc.

L=12 x W=6.7

Though they would need to be wide enough for 4 RAM slots.
 
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I like the idea of always-on PCs. So getting the idle power consumption closer to zero is a good thing. Of course, now we need better PSUs and chipsets and memory that can also go "near zero" when idle.
 
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I will look on Haswell performance because I lose less money if cross on Haswell + EVGA FTW 1150 when show up and sell my CPU. But I'm not so sure performance difference worth and I have not so bad IB sample if hit little worse Haswell overclocker maybe I can feel worse performance.
 
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Im not going to act like I understand any of that.
 
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Intel bought so many other companies for there intellectual property
- DEC alpha is one.
- Cray interconnects

And there video chips where also owned by another company thus why they can't make decent drivers for them. real 3d i think ...
Didn't a lot of Alpha technology actually end up with AMD?
The reason the original Athlon was so awesome (and such a leap up from the K6-III) was Alpha-style design and technology that Dirk brought over when Jerry recruited him away from DEC. EV6 DDR FSB, x86 to RISC op (ROP) translation, multi-issue FPU, etc.