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I disagree.

While Intel chips might use less power they run hotter. Same for Nvidia GPU's.

The max temp tolerence for Intel chips are much higher so yes they are more efficient in that sense, but in the reality of it all, with an AMD CPU and an ATI (AMD) GPU my temps are lower on all rigs on full load. and in the summertime when I'm fullscreen gaming and my 7970 is pumping out at 80 F Nvidia cards are pumping out much more which requires more A/C


95w to 125w? Pfff

I'll buy AMD.

Just because the sensor reads a higher temperature doesn't necessarily mean that the chip is dissipating a greater amount of heat. The amount of heat produced by a semiconductor device is a function of the amount of electricity flowing through the device in the first place. I can put an AMD E-350 on a passive heatsink to make it run at 80c and it dissipates much less heat than an FX-8150 @ 55c. Yeah, increasing the temperature of an electrical device increases the resistance and energy converted to heat, but that is negligible compared to the actual power consumption of the device.

Tell you what, I'm going to use my new IR thermometer to measure the difference between my FX-8150 and i7-870, and compare the readings to those from HWMonitor. Both are using the same Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO cooler at 100% fan speed. I'm pretty sure both CPUs should be close temperature wise, but the FX will likely read lower on the die sensors.

My 7950 is running at 70c/50% fan right now while folding at 950MHz. NVIDIA cards believe it or not are much more efficient for F@H, and a GTX 470 easily doubles the PPD of my 7950. Gaming is a much different ballpark however, but the GTX 6xx has radically different power characteristics compared to the previous Fermi GPUs.

With that said, my 45nm Intel i7-870 CPU at 400MHz slower core speed is still slapping my 32nm FX-8150. We shall find out soon which platform is victorious (as I might actually compare my systems with my Kill-A-Watt soon to see what the PPD to KWHR ratio is).
 
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Just because the sensor reads a higher temperature doesn't necessarily mean that the chip is dissipating a greater amount of heat. The amount of heat produced by a semiconductor device is a function of the amount of electricity flowing through the device in the first place. I can put an AMD E-350 on a passive heatsink to make it run at 80c and it dissipates much less heat than an FX-8150 @ 55c. Yeah, increasing the temperature of an electrical device increases the resistance and energy converted to heat, but that is negligible compared to the actual power consumption of the device.

Tell you what, I'm going to use my new IR thermometer to measure the difference between my FX-8150 and i7-870, and compare the readings to those from HWMonitor. Both are using the same Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO cooler at 100% fan speed. I'm pretty sure both CPUs should be close temperature wise, but the FX will likely read lower on the die sensors.

My 7950 is running at 70c/50% fan right now while folding at 950MHz. NVIDIA cards believe it or not are much more efficient for F@H, and a GTX 470 easily doubles the PPD of my 7950. Gaming is a much different ballpark however, but the GTX 6xx has radically different power characteristics compared to the previous Fermi GPUs.

With that said, my 45nm Intel i7-870 CPU at 400MHz slower core speed is still slapping my 32nm FX-8150. We shall find out soon which platform is victorious (as I might actually compare my systems with my Kill-A-Watt soon to see what the PPD to KWHR ratio is).

I'll admit I'm an AMD Fanboy (or fanbot if I mistype) but i like the fact that my GPU and CPU run cooler than Intel and Nvidia. Espescially in the summertime. Saves me on A/C

Here are my Temps under full load:




And my wattage is 150 total.
 
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I hear ya. I own a ton of AMD systems myself including the now quite inefficient K8 platforms. My 8150 4.2GHz 1.45v (lots of vdroop) is running at 54-57c right now with 2 GTX 460 cards installed and under 100% load, and since those are open-air cards that dump heat into the case, that attributes to the high temps on my CPU. Case is a HEC Blitz with 4x120 fans and a 140mm ghetto-modded to the mesh side panel.

My 870 system has a GTX 470 (rear exhaust) and a GTX 460 open air, and all that is in an NZXT Source 210 case with 4 anemic Cooler Master 120mm fans (not buying those again), rear 120mm 1500 RPM and a 120mm 1850 RPM high speed side panel fan. CPU is running at 72-77c.

I'll probably test both of them when I have time using the IR thermometer/Kill-A-Watt. :)
 
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I agree with Norton. Sometimes I succeed to find a balance and 8120 4,2GHz gives me 5,8-6,0 ppd. I'm working on it. It brings a lot of fun when you can squeeze out additional 15-20 percent.:)

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This experimental modern bomb labeled "to Russia with Love" is awesome:roll:
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@Jstn7477
Try to set LLC on "normal" or "regular". That magic thing helped me to reduce voltage to 1,32v. With 1,45v you can get 4,5GHz without extra heating (I mean more heating than you have ATM), I'm sure.
 
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Good job Chicken Patty, I hope to see you in the top-20 more frequently! :respect:

I'm surprised, that's my 2600K at default 3.8 GHz only. Speaking off, I haven't gotten the 2nd rig online because the landlord said he'll check it out this week. Since he usually comes during the day when I'm not home (he asks me for permission to go in the house) I will let him look at the outlet first. Once it's working I can connect everything back and done. Don't want him to find two PC's running and some ghetto rigged stuff. So I'll hold off a bit, but it's all ready to go!! :rockout:
 
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Funny thing about that, a single 2600k is enough to bounce in and outof the top twenty, but a 2600k and a I7 860 seems only good for 16th or 15th. You guys are making it tough to get top 10.
 
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I still need to clock the i7-920 to 4Ghz to see what numbers it will sling from 2.66Ghz

Should be able to do about 4.5K ppd at least at that clock right?

Depends on the projects you run, my 875k @ 3.86 would do ~5.5k PPD on C4SW (if crunching 24/7 untouched), but on other projects it was lower. If the system has enough RAM, C4SW really is amazing :toast:
 
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As much as the points are nice, at the end of the day I'm not in it for the points, I'm in it for the research so I don't specify anything, I just let it run what it wants, don't really mind. I got 8GB's of RAM and I never see over 40%-50% of usage at any given time, that I could see at least.

So it could run whatever project it wants. :laugh:
 
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Depends on the projects you run, my 875k @ 3.86 would do ~5.5k PPD on C4SW (if crunching 24/7 untouched), but on other projects it was lower. If the system has enough RAM, C4SW really is amazing :toast:

Someone has C4CW? For my FX this job is no longer loaded.
 

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Video Card(s) GTX260 / Intel HD 4000 / nVidia GT310
Storage 80GB Intel SSD / 256GB Intel SSD / 2x 60GB SSD (RAID1)
Display(s) Dell 3007 + HP 2245w / 12.1" 1366x768 / None
Case Antec NSK3480 / HP / Supermicro 1U
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply Enermax 500W / HP 130W / Supermicro Gold 1400W
Keyboard IBM Model M
Software Windows 7 (Niedersachsen/Ribe) / Linux Mint 17.2 (Minsk)
As much as the points are nice, at the end of the day I'm not in it for the points, I'm in it for the research so I don't specify anything, I just let it run what it wants, don't really mind. I got 8GB's of RAM and I never see over 40%-50% of usage at any given time, that I could see at least.

So it could run whatever project it wants. :laugh:
I like to run one project at a time, so I'm doing C4SW until I get the 1-year or 2-year badge, then I'll switch over to something else. If I do all projects, new badges seem to take forever :p
Someone has C4CW? For my FX this job is no longer loaded.

My laptop says that the project is shut down for maintenance, but I pulled down three C4SW WUs on my C2D about ten minutes ago....YMMV.
 

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