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Have you tried Mantle with BF4? (Frontpage poll)

Have you tried Mantle with BF4?

  • Yes, and I love it

    Votes: 2,808 25.7%
  • Yes, but I went back to DirectX

    Votes: 716 6.6%
  • I couldn't get the driver installed properly

    Votes: 172 1.6%
  • No, I'll wait for a more refined version

    Votes: 1,250 11.4%
  • I only have an NVIDIA/Intel GPU

    Votes: 5,974 54.7%

  • Total voters
    10,920
  • Poll closed .

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Did you check out Mantle yet? AMD's graphics API made its debut with Battlefield 4 and Catalyst 14.1 beta, AMD managed to silence cynics with performance gains on some AMD Radeon cards. Tell us if you've checked Mantle out, and your first reactions to it.
 
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I think one more option should be added and that would be "Yes, But with mixed results."

My reasoning for this is because i use mantle but i do not love it.

As i have a HD7970 i only see minimal changes in BF4 so i will not comment more as its to early to tell.

I see bigger improvments in the star swarm benchmark.
 
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Sorry, but this poll must be divided between GCN1 and GCN2 users to be useful..., don't you think?
 
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where is the, bf4 suck bollz but i have the mantle driver installed, option?
 
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its working alright but cant see much difference. But, as far as I can tell, if I choose mantle, its a bit blurry. Not so much but thats atleast what I observed. But I am happy cause now AMD has shown something working. Not yet fully but it will take months, until it is refined.
 
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I get 10 more fps in BF4 but it screw up my mouse cursor in the menus and map. The cursor become offset by about 1 inch to the right of where it is actually clicking... back to DX11 for now...
 
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I use Mantle on R9 270 and FPS are down a little.

Hope better performance on 14.2.
 
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I tried it and the performance was amazing. I felt like having less lags and it was smoother. But then I had 1 seconds lags and went back to DX11. I am using Windows 8 (without 8.1), maybe this is an issue.
 
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Haven't tried Mantle yet, just finished downloading BF4 last night. Will try with my current drivers, then the new Mantle beta ones.
Will post update later tonight.

Played a lot of the campaign with the non Mantle drivers, everything was smooth as butter. Will hop into some multiplayer with the old drivers, then test out the Mantle stuff tomorrow.

Edit
Played in a multiplayer non-Mantle and got great performance. Got my ass beat down on a consistent basis, seems like everyone sees me before I see them and, and they don't seem to miss when they shoot.
 
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Waiting for my 7970 to come back from Gigabyte (two months of RMA now... :( out of stock). I figure when I get it back, they will have mantle drivers that are non-beta. Then I'll get em.
 
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Option number 6:

No, I have no interest in playing BF4, Mantle or not.

I am interested in a couple games releasing later this year on that game engine though.
 
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I don't see the point in trying it until its refined. I also don't play any games that use mantle yet.
 
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I just played 2 matches with my second PC (FX-8350, 7950 Boost, Windows8.1 64Bit), one with Mantle one with DX11. Because Fraps doesn't work with mantle I can only guess its performance.

I thought with Mantle it's almost that good as my first PC (7950 crossfire), but then I also had greater lags. Not that big 1 second lags, but they appeared too.

With DX11 the performance was less from my feelings (40-60 frames) but no such lags. This beta driver doesn't work out for me for now, but it was a fantastic taste of what is possible coming up with the next drivers.
Now I could even give a try to my third PC (i72600k, 7770 crossfire). :slap:
Keep the good work up AMD. :clap:
 

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No, I don't even play the whole game because I simply don't like it.
 
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yes, but it crashed BF4 when I tried to select options > graphics. Found on the interweb that I had to disabled the onboard (Intel) GPU. Then it worked. But made no difference anyway.

I5-3570k & 7950 crossfire.
 
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Because Fraps doesn't work with mantle I can only guess its performance.

Good point actually, I still saw FRAPS when I enabled Mantle, which probably means it wasn't working.

Another thought, you can enable a FPS counter in the BF4 console, using this;

perfoverlay.drawfps true

might try that later
 
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Waiting for mature drivers ...
"Intermittent stuttering or stability issues may occur when utilizing Mantle with AMD CrossFire technology in BattleField 4 - AMD recommends using the DirectX code path when playing Battlefield 4 with multiple GPUs. A future AMD Catalyst release will resolve these issues"
" Frame Pacing for Dual Graphics and non-XDMA configurations above 2560x1600 do not currently work with Battlefield 3 and Battlefield 4. An upcoming release will enable support"
Running on single GPU @1920x1080 game runs smoother maybe??:ohwell::ohwell:
 
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Little buggy with my 280x but it explicitly isn't designed for it yet, get about a 25% increase in BF4 on avg fps. at 1920x1200 on ultra.
 
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tried mantle but the driver makes minecraft unplayable so had to uninstall, not voting because theres no "I dont play BF4 but tried the starswarm demo"
 

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I don't know what category I fit into. I own an AMD card but not the game; I'm not a fan of the Battlefield series. Mantle will be interesting to test when other games support it.
 
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BF4 as test monkey was a terrible idea, cause that game has countless issues even itself.

Other than that, I have AMD (well it was I think ATi back then) graphic card, but Im pretty positive it cant work with Mantle, no category for me eh?

Latest patch for BF4 was great, now I can play first round of game in SQDM/TDM in "no sound" mode.. so its not really what Mantle bring to BF4, more like what they managed to take out along with it. :D Yea and it crashes nicely with latest patch, unless you use some workarounds (a lot of them, I can pretty much say I tuned my software to work as good as possible with BF4 .. as result most of my games work much better, BF4 - not so much).

Seriously, AMD should use something else to beta-test or test Mantle.. BF4 was probably worst idea ever.
 
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Where's the NO, I have no interest in BF4 option?
 
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I just tried it on Test Range b/c thats all I had time for so far but its only a 1 fps increase there, no load ofc. But I do have them split second lags that were annoying. Ill try online here soon.
 
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