• We've upgraded our forums. Please post any issues/requests in this thread.

Hd 7850 or 7870?

Joined
Jun 3, 2012
Messages
701 (0.35/day)
Likes
43
Processor Ryzen 5 1600 3.9ghz vcore on aut with offsett +
Motherboard Asus Prime X370-PRO
Cooling Cooler master Hyper 212 hyper led turbo 750 rpm, noctiu NF-P12PWM
Memory 2x8gb G skill flare x 3200mhz cl 14
Video Card(s) ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 Strix OC - 8GB
Storage 1x1tb samsung 850 evo,1x 525gb Crucial MX300 m.2 ssd (games) 1x2000gb wd green
Display(s) 1 Acer predator x34 and 1 Dell U2515H as accessory monitor (music,tv,videos,film)
Case Fractal design define r5
Audio Device(s) Focusrite Lightning iTrack Solo
Power Supply Evga supernova 650watt p2
Mouse Razer deathadder 2013
Keyboard Logitech G710
Software Windows 10 64 bit, Karspersky internet security
#1
I am getting closer to getting me a new gpu.

I want to save some money by not getting me the most expensive card,but i don't want to get me a new card that's only slightly better then my Club 3d gtx 560 coolstream

Hd7850 1/2gb or Hd 7870 2gb?

I play need for speed shift, drift and mass effect 3 with highest setting my gtx 560 can play the games in without any lagg (medium/high) and always in full hd (1920x1080).

I have an i7 870 oc to 3.3 ghz with turbo and hyper threading enabled, i guees it's fast enough for any gpu slower then a gtx 670 (in benchmark my cpu stock,is faster then the 8 core amd fx-8150).

1 gb or 2 gb vram? I know that 1 gb vram is enough for full hd, but bf3 in full hd and on ultra 2gb vram is better

How much can i oc a 7850? To the performance of a gtx 570,hd7870?

Which non ref hd 7850/7870 is the best (of the cheapest one)

How much decrease in performance with a 3.0 x16 gpu when used with a mb that only has pci e 2.0 16x?

Don't want to use more then 200euro, a 1gb hd 7850 costs 160 euros on caseking.de (good price) and alows med to get a new 1.5tb harddrive so i can have all my backup,music and films on one drive
 

Phusius

New Member
Joined
Mar 23, 2012
Messages
1,316 (0.63/day)
Likes
369
Processor i5-2500k @ 4.5
Motherboard Asus Z68 Deluxe
Cooling Noctua NH-D14
Memory 16GB DDR3 1600
Video Card(s) Sapphire 7950 @ 1200/1475 @ 1175v
Display(s) Dell 23" 2ms
Case Carbide 500r
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar DG
#2
no decrease on a 2.0 express slot, so no worries there. u def want 2gb. 1gb will hold u back in a lot of games.

7850 2gb and OC it in CCC to max. and u should be ok.
 

MxPhenom 216

Corsair Fanboy
Joined
Aug 31, 2010
Messages
12,129 (4.55/day)
Likes
3,697
Location
Seattle, WA
System Name The Battlestation
Processor Intel Core i7 4770k @ 4.2GHZ 1.275v
Motherboard MSi Z97 Gaming 5
Cooling EK Supremacy w/ EK Coolstream PE360
Memory G. Skill Trident X 16Gb (4x4GB) 2400mhz @ 1.65v
Video Card(s) MSi GTX1070 Gaming X 8GB @ 2GHz
Storage Samsung 830 128GB SSD, Crucial MX200 500GB, Seagate Barracuda 2TB (2x 1TB Partitions)
Display(s) Qnix QX2710 27" 2560 x 1440 PLS @ 100hz
Case Phantek Enthoo Evolv ATX TG
Audio Device(s) MSi Gaming AudioBoost ALC1150 w/ Sennheiser Game Ones
Power Supply Seasonic Flagship Prime Platinum 850
Mouse Steelseries Rival 310 w/ QCK Mass mat
Keyboard Corsair K70 w/ MX Browns and Red Backlit
Software Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit
Benchmark Scores Firestrike: 15439
#3
no decrease on a 2.0 express slot, so no worries there. u def want 2gb. 1gb will hold u back in a lot of games.

7850 2gb and OC it in CCC to max. and u should be ok.
Not really, all depends on what resolution he is playing at. At 1080p still to this day 1GB will do pretty well. However, still going with a 2GB+ card would be the way to go.

Id get a HD7870 2GB card. If you can afford it. Why not?
 
Joined
Jan 15, 2012
Messages
951 (0.44/day)
Likes
496
Location
Arcadia
System Name Xeon build /Main Rig
Processor Intel Xeon w3520 @ 4Ghz with HT /i7 4820k @4.6 Ghz
Motherboard Asus P6T Deluxe v2 socket 1366 / Asus P9X79 socket 2011
Cooling Thermalright Archon +Ty 140mm|Fans : 2 front-1top-1rear-1bottom/ Swiftech H140x
Memory 16gb DDR3 1600mhz Kingstone Hyper x Quad Channel / 16gb DDR3 2133MHZ Gskill RipjawsZ
Video Card(s) Sapphire hd 7950 3gb Boost edition dual fan X / XFX R9 Fury X
Storage Kingstone AV400ssd 120gb + Seagate B 2Tb + WD green 1tb + WD green 3tb + WD red 3tb + Seagate B 4tb
Display(s) Wasabi Mango UHD430 43" 4K @60hz with Freesync
Case Fractal Design Arc midi
Audio Device(s) SoundMaxHD+5.1 BHT1100 BLUESKY,Corsair Vengeance 1500 v2,Fiio E10 Olympus+SuperluxHD668b
Power Supply Thermaltake toughpower xt 775watt modular
Mouse Corsair M90
Keyboard Microsoft WK600
Software Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
#4
the 7870 is good too but cost aroud 200€ max 220€ on caseking but depends on the model and the company,go for the 7850 but 2gb version not 1gb xd.
 
Joined
May 13, 2008
Messages
538 (0.15/day)
Likes
146
System Name HTPC whhaaaat?
Processor 2600k @ 4500mhz
Motherboard Asus Maximus IV gene-z gen3
Cooling Noctua NH-C14
Memory Gskill Ripjaw 2x4gb
Video Card(s) EVGA 1080 FTW @ 2037/11016
Storage 2x512GB MX100/1x Agility 3 128gb ssds, Seagate 3TB HDD
Display(s) Vizio P 65'' 4k tv
Case Lian Li pc-c50b
Audio Device(s) Denon 3311
Power Supply Corsair 620HX
#5
The 7870 is truly the card to beat for price/performance all things considered...no question.

Overclock it and have something around the speed of a 7950/660ti at stock...and really, that should be about all you ever need for 1080p.

IMO it's worth in. Potentially it could save you from needing to upgrade for a long while. 7850 just ain't quite gonna cut it going forward.
 
Joined
Mar 30, 2011
Messages
765 (0.31/day)
Likes
160
Location
Pocomoke, MD
System Name Good Enough
Processor Intel G3258 @ 3.8ghz
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-H81M-H
Cooling Stock
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws 8gb
Video Card(s) MSI 650 ti Boost
Storage Crucial MX100 128gb SSD
Display(s) ASUS VN248
Case Coolermaster Ammo 533
Audio Device(s) Realtek ALC887
Power Supply Antec BP550
Mouse G502
Keyboard Sidewinder x4
Software Windows 7
#6
Joined
Jan 15, 2012
Messages
951 (0.44/day)
Likes
496
Location
Arcadia
System Name Xeon build /Main Rig
Processor Intel Xeon w3520 @ 4Ghz with HT /i7 4820k @4.6 Ghz
Motherboard Asus P6T Deluxe v2 socket 1366 / Asus P9X79 socket 2011
Cooling Thermalright Archon +Ty 140mm|Fans : 2 front-1top-1rear-1bottom/ Swiftech H140x
Memory 16gb DDR3 1600mhz Kingstone Hyper x Quad Channel / 16gb DDR3 2133MHZ Gskill RipjawsZ
Video Card(s) Sapphire hd 7950 3gb Boost edition dual fan X / XFX R9 Fury X
Storage Kingstone AV400ssd 120gb + Seagate B 2Tb + WD green 1tb + WD green 3tb + WD red 3tb + Seagate B 4tb
Display(s) Wasabi Mango UHD430 43" 4K @60hz with Freesync
Case Fractal Design Arc midi
Audio Device(s) SoundMaxHD+5.1 BHT1100 BLUESKY,Corsair Vengeance 1500 v2,Fiio E10 Olympus+SuperluxHD668b
Power Supply Thermaltake toughpower xt 775watt modular
Mouse Corsair M90
Keyboard Microsoft WK600
Software Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
#7
Joined
Apr 18, 2012
Messages
361 (0.17/day)
Likes
83
Processor Intel Core i7 6700k
Motherboard AsRock Z170 Gaming-ITX/ac
Cooling Seidon 120V Plus
Memory 16GB (2x8GB) Corsair Vengeance
Storage Samsung 850 Evo
Power Supply Silverstone SX-500 L
#8
Dont go for the 1gb model.
 
Joined
Jun 12, 2007
Messages
4,815 (1.25/day)
Likes
639
Location
Wangas, New Zealand
System Name Darth Obsidious
Processor Intel i5 2500K
Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V/Gen3
Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212+ in Push Pull
Memory 2X4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600
Video Card(s) ASUS R9 270x TOP
Storage 128GB Samsung 830 SSD, 1TB WD Black, 2TB WD Green
Display(s) LG IPS234V-PN
Case Corsair Obsidian 650D
Audio Device(s) Infrasonic Quartet
Power Supply Corsair HX650w
Software Windows 7 64bit and Windows XP Home
Benchmark Scores 2cm mark on bench with a razor blade.
#9
Depending on where you live the HD7870 can only be a few dollars difference.

I'm pleased with the performance of my HD7870 but then again I upgraded from an HD4850 512mb.

Been reading that there has been issues with the Sapphire HD7870 OC model and having black screen issue, there has been a post here about it too which appears to have been resolved by a BIOS flash which boosts the voltage up on the OC versions.

My HD 7870 is not the cheapest by any means and is the only 7870 which does not have any type of heat dispersion for the RAM sinks and VRMs.
So far it has been going well.
 
Joined
May 14, 2012
Messages
883 (0.43/day)
Likes
75
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 1600X
Motherboard AsRock X370 Taichi
Cooling Corsair H60 Liquid Cooling
Memory 16 GB CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 3000 Mhz (Running at 2933)
Video Card(s) Gigabyte G1 GTX 1070
Storage 240 GB Kingston SSD, 7 TB's of HDD
Display(s) Dell 16:10 20" Monitor
Case Phanteks Enthos Pro M
Audio Device(s) Integrated
Power Supply Corsair 750 P2
Mouse Mionix Naos 8200
Keyboard G Skill Ripjaws RGB Mechanical Keyboard
Software Windows 10 Pro
#10
I would get the 7870. Helped picked one out for my friends build and I know its really awesome
 

Fourstaff

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Nov 29, 2009
Messages
9,376 (3.19/day)
Likes
2,100
Location
Home
System Name Asus K50-X5DAB \\ Orange!
Processor Athlon QL-65 2.2Ghz \\ 3570K
Motherboard Laptop \\ ASRock z77 Extreme4
Cooling Laptop \\ H100i
Memory 1x1GB + 1X2GB \\ 2x4Gb 1600Mhz CL9 Corsair XMS3
Video Card(s) Mobility Radeon HD4570 512mb \\ Zotac 660Ti OC 2Gb
Storage 250Gb \\ Samsung 840 250Gb + Toshiba DT01ACA300 3Tb
Display(s) 15.6" 1366x768 \\ LG 22EA53VQ
Case Laptop Chassis \\ NZXT Phantom 410 Black/Orange
Power Supply Power Brick \\ Corsair CXM500w
#11
So why not continue using the 560Ti? If its not powerful enough, then chances are, the 7850 will not be either.
 
Joined
Oct 29, 2010
Messages
2,944 (1.13/day)
Likes
1,379
System Name The Sheriff / The Deputy
Processor 2500K / G4560
Motherboard ASRock P67Extreme4 / Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 DDR3
Cooling CM Hyper TX3 / Intel stock
Memory 16 GB Kingston HyperX / 8 GB Kingston HyperX
Video Card(s) EVGA GTX 960 SSC / Gigabyte GTX 1050 Ti LP
Storage SSD, some WD and lots of Samsungs
Display(s) BenQ GW2470 / Samsung SyncMaster T220
Case Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced / Thermaltake Core v31
Audio Device(s) Asus Xonar D1/Denon PMA500AE/Wharfedale D 10.1/Senn HD518
Power Supply Corsair TX650 / Corsair TX650M
Mouse Steelseries Rival 100/ Mionix Avior 7000
Keyboard Sidewinder
Software Windows 10 / Windows 10 Pro
#12
So why not continue using the 560Ti? If its not powerful enough, then chances are, the 7850 will not be either.
He has the 560 non Ti. So it is a noticeable difference between the 7850 and his card.
Anyway, depends how much are you willing to spend. The 7870 is a good card for the money, better than the GTX660 at the same price point.
 

Fourstaff

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Nov 29, 2009
Messages
9,376 (3.19/day)
Likes
2,100
Location
Home
System Name Asus K50-X5DAB \\ Orange!
Processor Athlon QL-65 2.2Ghz \\ 3570K
Motherboard Laptop \\ ASRock z77 Extreme4
Cooling Laptop \\ H100i
Memory 1x1GB + 1X2GB \\ 2x4Gb 1600Mhz CL9 Corsair XMS3
Video Card(s) Mobility Radeon HD4570 512mb \\ Zotac 660Ti OC 2Gb
Storage 250Gb \\ Samsung 840 250Gb + Toshiba DT01ACA300 3Tb
Display(s) 15.6" 1366x768 \\ LG 22EA53VQ
Case Laptop Chassis \\ NZXT Phantom 410 Black/Orange
Power Supply Power Brick \\ Corsair CXM500w
#13
He has the 560 non Ti. So it is a noticeable difference between the 7850 and his card.
Anyway, depends how much are you willing to spend. The 7870 is a good card for the money, better than the GTX660 at the same price point.
Good point, but either way just wait for the potential price cut when the 650Ti comes out.
 
Joined
Jun 3, 2012
Messages
701 (0.35/day)
Likes
43
Processor Ryzen 5 1600 3.9ghz vcore on aut with offsett +
Motherboard Asus Prime X370-PRO
Cooling Cooler master Hyper 212 hyper led turbo 750 rpm, noctiu NF-P12PWM
Memory 2x8gb G skill flare x 3200mhz cl 14
Video Card(s) ASUS GeForce GTX 1070 Strix OC - 8GB
Storage 1x1tb samsung 850 evo,1x 525gb Crucial MX300 m.2 ssd (games) 1x2000gb wd green
Display(s) 1 Acer predator x34 and 1 Dell U2515H as accessory monitor (music,tv,videos,film)
Case Fractal design define r5
Audio Device(s) Focusrite Lightning iTrack Solo
Power Supply Evga supernova 650watt p2
Mouse Razer deathadder 2013
Keyboard Logitech G710
Software Windows 10 64 bit, Karspersky internet security
#14
No i have sold my club 3d gtx coolstream and guess what i get 5.0 for aero and 5.9 for games in windows 7 with only a 8600 gt 512 mb impressive :)

I have about 180-190euros for a gpu