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HD4850 CF vs PNY 9800 GX2

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o rly spearman??? O RLY???
 
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Here's another review from August. Looks like they trade blows depending on the resolution and the game. They do at most use 4X AA with 16X AF in their testing. Would be interested to see the results with the new Nvidia 180.48 drivers.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/sapphire-radeon-hd4850-cf.html

If they turn out to be more or less equal I've always had a soft spot for the 9800 GX2. Its such a behemoth! Almost bought one instead of my GTX 260 - it was slightly less at the time in price.
This review is complete crap. Seriously in his "results" for COD4 the 4850s aren't even scaling (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/sapphire-radeon-hd4850-cf_5.html#sect1) :shadedshu
 
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notice also an 8800GTX still has drivers that are getting better and better, where does one draw the line.

also, i swear i hear mostly ATi fans using "maturing drivers" as good reason to get an ATi card....

(please, not trying to insight a flame/fanboy war, just an opinion)
I honor your opinion I truly do, but please I am far from fanboy.
 
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I honor your opinion I truly do, but please I am far from fanboy.
believe me when i say i don't think of you as a fanboy at all, in fact i view you as a highly respectable member of TPU.

i apologize for the angle of my comment, but it wasn't directed at you, it just seems that when i comment about ATi, on just about any level, people dive all over that and start a flame war i really don't have the effort or inclination to fight anymore...

anyway my point was, just about every card on the market today has drivers that are getting better and better, lets not base the card choice on what "might" improve.

and again JR apologies, didn't want it to come off that way, we cool? :toast:
 

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believe me when i say i don't think of you as a fanboy at all, in fact i view you as a highly respectable member of TPU.

i apologize for the angle of my comment, but it wasn't directed at you, it just seems that when i comment about ATi, on just about any level, people dive all over that and start a flame war i really don't have the effort or inclination to fight anymore...

anyway my point was, just about every card on the market today has drivers that are getting better and better, lets not base the card choice on what "might" improve.

and again JR apologies, didn't want it to come off that way, we cool? :toast:
No need for apology, there were never any hard feelings. ;)

My whole point of the earlier post was depending on the user. Meaning this, if you have alot of games that use physx processing go the nvidia route. AMD Stream will be out soon, so if you do alot of video encoding, go the ATi route.
 
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I'd personally keep whichever you paid more for since both setups are somehow similar in performance.
 
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I'd personally keep whichever you paid more for since both setups are somehow similar in performance.
i think this is the most valuable comment ;) (no sarcasm here)

after reading all your comments guys (thanks btw for all this :toast:), it seems to me that the two setup are +/- equal. i'm not a bencher, I'm more a gamer and what i like the most is to play with the higher settings possible.

the fact that one GX2 can provide +/- comparable perfs to 2x 4850 is already good point, and as stated above, the 4850 will have a higher selling value too. So I've been running on ATI for the last 4 years, maybe it's time switch and see how it goes with Nvidia.

One last question maybe, someoe mentionned "drives maturing", what do you mean by that? Nvidia release cycle is not as regular as ATI?

Thanks again
 

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I think what he means is it'll take longer for ATi to go as far as nVidia on the software side of their cards. The hardware is definitely sound. One thing that made me switch to nV were CUDA uses. ATi's Stream might compete, but I didn't build this machine only for gaming. I have a grandmother with Altzheimer's and folding@home is my way of doing one more thing for her and anyone else who might have to go through that.
 
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I would go with the GX2 if it suits your needs. It draws less power + less heat + single card solution = the winner to me.
 
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Both are great setups, both will have PhysX of some sort, ATI will have an advantage in video encoding in december(FireStreaming) as stated earlier in this thread and the amount of programs that use NVIDIA's cuda is highly considerable.

I would go with the 9800gx2 since its more expensive. 2 4850's are cheaper, if this was a "which one should I buy?" question I would recommend the 4850's, but you have both so obviously the 9800gx2 is going to bring you more happiness if you keep it :). The more expensive one is usually the better one, if not in performance then look at the features and its compatibility to optimize its multi-GPU features on games and applications.



PS: (This hardware talk is getting me excited for my big christmas upgrade :) a grand to spend! Whatever should I buy!?!?!) THREAD SHORTLY lol.
 

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4:confused: each 4850 only uses one 6 pin, so he only needs two
Lol, my bad, I thought they were 2 pins each............now that changes things, I am going for the two 4850 1GB cards! sod the GX2!

Edit: Just ordered two Powercolor 1GB PCS+ cards with the Zerotherm cooler.....well happy!
 
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Both are great setups, both will have PhysX of some sort, ATI will have an advantage in video encoding in december(FireStreaming) as stated earlier in this thread and the amount of programs that use NVIDIA's cuda is highly considerable.

I would go with the 9800gx2 since its more expensive. 2 4850's are cheaper, if this was a "which one should I buy?" question I would recommend the 4850's, but you have both so obviously the 9800gx2 is going to bring you more happiness if you keep it :). The more expensive one is usually the better one, if not in performance then look at the features and its compatibility to optimize its multi-GPU features on games and applications.



PS: (This hardware talk is getting me excited for my big christmas upgrade :) a grand to spend! Whatever should I buy!?!?!) THREAD SHORTLY lol.
In the UK it's the opposite, the GX2 is cheaper than two 4850's.
 
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In the UK it's the opposite, the GX2 is cheaper than two 4850's.
Lol wow, nevermind my opinion then. Maybe the Aussies admire Nvidia more lol, I wouldn't know now xD.
 
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tonight it's GX2 setup :-D

anyone interested by 2x 2 months old ATI HD4850? ;-)
 
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Very nice! Good luck! Tell us if you get any severe micro stuttering problems kay?
 
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Playing devil's advocate here, can you provide links to tests where they do? What is your basis that they should? That's part of the hazard of CF or SLI (or two GPU single cards). Sometimes games don't play nice with them.
COD4 is specifically one of those games that should always play nice with crossfire usually posting exceptional scaling efficiency. http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-ati-radeon-hd-4850-review-force-3d--powercolor/17) (http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/9159-ati-hd4870-hd4850-crossfire-performance-review-11.html)
 

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Thanks for the links (and a little education - don't play the game and I wasn't familiar). The reviewer did seem a little incredulous that it wasn't scaling. CF did seem to scale in most of the other games he tried. It is a little weird. He should have tried it on another machine when an obviously CF friendly title doesn't work on the one he's using (but he might as not wanted to bother, and it that case the review is flawed).
 

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i would go for the GX2....only just, the 4850's are damn fine cards in Xfire, I only said GX2 cause I am getting one this week to play, and less messing with cabling, need 4 cables for the 4850 setup, just 2 for the GX2, if buying, i would say get the cheapest, in my case thats the GX2 as I can get them new for £200 ish.
how did you get 4 cables ? they only have 1 pcie 6pin connector

and £200ish is what 2 4850's can be grabbed for if you look. hes already stated he has the 4850s anyway so forking out for them isnt the issue.

i think theres nothing in it performance wise (afterall what games cant you play maxxed with either card setup?) unless you bench and even then im not too sure what would be the best setup :wtf:
 
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Thanks for the links (and a little education - don't play the game and I wasn't familiar). The reviewer did seem a little incredulous that it wasn't scaling. CF did seem to scale in most of the other games he tried. It is a little weird. He should have tried it on another machine when an obviously CF friendly title doesn't work on the one he's using (but he might as not wanted to bother, and it that case the review is flawed).
Exactly, even if the rest of his game tests are 100% accurate I have no choice but to disregard the results based on these mistakes. He just wasn't that thorough.
 
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Seriously if you have both setups ready, test both and post your results, then you know you made the best choice too.
 

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Seriously if you have both setups ready, test both and post your results, then you know you made the best choice too.
+1 you could have done that already lol :p
 
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