HD4850 vs. HD4770 DUEL

SonDa5 · Aug 28, 2009

I'm still figuring out my HD4770s.

Just scored 24,208 in 3dMark06.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=11828816

1Kurgan1 · Aug 28, 2009

Sonido said:
Surprisingly, two 4770's would be around 1 1/2 +/- times the performance of a 4870 (stock).

Thats not surprising, it's been known that 4830's CF'd beat out GTX280's and 4770's at stock are very close runners with 4830's.

pvhk · Aug 30, 2009

single sapphire HD4770 flashed w/asus top bios & thermalright V2:

theorw · Aug 30, 2009

Just u guys wait till tomorrow that i get my buddy s 8400 @4.4ghz.
I hope i ll do some decent 4850 crossfire 3dmark score for u!

pvhk · Aug 30, 2009

needless to wait: i already have an e8600@4.5Ghz with a CF gainward HD4850GS oced on DFI P45 JR!

But for now, just a comparison on the same rig with one of my gainward HD4850GS@750/1100:

TheMailMan78 · Aug 30, 2009

1Kurgan1 said:
Thats not surprising, it's been known that 4830's CF'd beat out GTX280's and 4770's at stock are very close runners with 4830's.

Hes right. Two 4850s CF spank one 4870 all day. 4770's would be no different.

SonDa5 · Aug 30, 2009

theorw said:
Just u guys wait till tomorrow that i get my buddy s 8400 @4.4ghz.
I hope i ll do some decent 4850 crossfire 3dmark score for u!

Bring it on! :rockout:

theorw · Aug 30, 2009

pvhk said:
needless to wait: i already have an e8600@4.5Ghz with a CF gainward HD4850GS oced on DFI P45 JR!

U got me...
Well i ll post my results too see if we got any differences in settings and stuff!!!
What clocks on 4850s?
Also mine are 1 gig both of them!

SonDa5 said:
Bring it on!

WILL DO!!!!

pvhk · Aug 30, 2009

1 gainward HD4850GS 512 + 1 Gainward HD4850GS 1gig:

theorw · Aug 31, 2009

pvhk said:
1 gainward HD4850GS 512 + 1 Gainward HD4850GS 1gig:
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb261/pvhk/21417.jpg

Well the 1gig was not used there.
Anyway, we ll have a little battle over there :toast:

My 1st 4850 clocks 750/1000 fine while the 2nd 821/1200 but i have yet to see if theres any benefit from the increased OC...
Then next couple of days will tell!

Error 404 · Aug 31, 2009

Well here's me being stupid with my 4850's clock speeds: 750 MHz core, 1125 MHz RAM!! No extra voltage, since I can't find any vmods for this card

CPU was clocked at 3.2 GHz, and I reckon that was bottlenecking the card slightly since I actually got higher score with 3.8 GHz CPU and 720 MHz GPU.
I have yet to try upping my CPU AND doing 750 MHz on the core, but in both Vantage and Crysis the 750 MHz was stable.

Steevo · Aug 31, 2009

I built a system for my parents that ahd a dual core and a 4770 and I almost traded them out of the 4770 for my 4850, but the amount of vmem was the kicker, in benchmarks I could get the 4770 to hold neck in neck with my card, but games would have killed it compared to my system.

And thus learn that synthetic bencmarks are great for e-peen, but mean jack in real world performance.

1Kurgan1 · Aug 31, 2009

Yeah thats the sad thing about 4770's, only 512mb models. And the prices are really close to 4870 512mb models, they just aren't worth it, but would be a fun thing to mess around with.

SonDa5 · Aug 31, 2009

Error 404 said:
Well here's me being stupid with my 4850's clock speeds: 750 MHz core, 1125 MHz RAM!! No extra voltage, since I can't find any vmods for this card
CPU was clocked at 3.2 GHz, and I reckon that was bottlenecking the card slightly since I actually got higher score with 3.8 GHz CPU and 720 MHz GPU.
I have yet to try upping my CPU AND doing 750 MHz on the core, but in both Vantage and Crysis the 750 MHz was stable.
http://img.techpowerup.org/090830/4850 Overclocked 750 1125.jpg

With a fresh install of Windows 7. Minor Tweaking. This should pick up once I figure out tweaks for W7 in my system bios.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dmv=1371302

pvhk · Aug 31, 2009

theorw said:
Well the 1gig was not used there.

:shadedshu

look at the 2 gpu-z screens : there is one hd4850 1gig!

Wile E · Aug 31, 2009

pvhk said:
:shadedshu

look at the 2 gpu-z screens : there is one hd4850 1gig!

He's just telling you that when you crossfire a 512MB card with a 1GB card, the 1 GB acts like a 512MB card. It cannot use the whole 1GB.

pvhk · Aug 31, 2009

Steevo said:
I built a system for my parents that ahd a dual core and a 4770 and I almost traded them out of the 4770 for my 4850, but the amount of vmem was the kicker, in benchmarks I could get the 4770 to hold neck in neck with my card, but games would have killed it compared to my system.

And thus learn that synthetic bencmarks are great for e-peen, but mean jack in real world performance.

in real world the hd4850 gddr3 does not kick ass the hd4770 when it's correctly oced (not @850/850...

...But the hd4890 with its 1Gig of gddr5 can say goodbye to a CF hd4770 oced in heavy game like crysis on high res....

Wile E said:
He's just telling you that when you crossfire a 512MB card with a 1GB card, the 1 GB acts like a 512MB card. It cannot use the whole 1GB.

allright

Steevo · Aug 31, 2009

pvhk said:
in real world the hd4850 gddr3 does not kick ass the hd4770 when it's correctly oced (not @850/850......But the hd4890 with its 1Gig of gddr5 can say goodbye to a CF hd4770 oced in heavy game like crysis on high res....

allright

Can it play GTA4?

No?

KTHNXBYE :slap:

Statistics
Average FPS: 42.97
Duration: 37.40 sec
CPU Usage: 59%
System memory usage: 66%
Video memory usage: 94%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: High
Texture Filter Quality: Highest
View Distance: 32
Detail Distance: 100

Hardware
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Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
Video Driver version: 8.14.10.685
Audio Adapter: Speakers (SoundMAX Integrated Digital HD Audio)
AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 940 Processor

File ID: benchmark.cli

erocker · Aug 31, 2009

I would never recommend any card 512mb's and under for any resolution over 1680x1050 if you want eye candy with your graphics. Just look at the reviews for a 1gb and a 512mb 4870 for example. At 1920x1200 in many games the performance doubles using the 1gb card.

Wile E · Aug 31, 2009

pvhk said:
allright

"old screen" of cross HD4770@1000/1100 on M2G:
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb261/pvhk/21369.jpg

What does that have anything to do with my statement? The 4850 1GB + 4850 512MB combo still uses the 1GB card like it was a 512MB card.

Steevo · Aug 31, 2009

Exactly, these newer games and newer resolutions are driving the need for more on board memory. Everyone who cries about Crysis, and all the other newer games needs to understand when you bought your new CPU, and monitor to see the beauty of a game your old 256MB card isn't going to cut it.

pvhk · Aug 31, 2009

-do not play with gta4

-and my resolution is 1680x1050 (eizo wide 20") so no bottleneck with all my 512mb' cards...

pvhk · Aug 31, 2009

Wile E said:
What does that have anything to do with my statement? The 4850 1GB + 4850 512MB combo still uses the 1GB card like it was a 512MB card.

screen was not meant to you man, just a post for all in the battle 4850 vs 4770. I can edit if you prefer...

voilà!
"old screen" of cross HD4770@1000/1100 on M2G:

everyone is happy so...

pvhk · Aug 31, 2009

nice improvement of the hd4850 1gb over the 512's one:

SonDa5 · Aug 31, 2009

Steevo said:
Can it play GTA4?

Not sure. Don't have the game.

Is there a place where I can download the benchmark?

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