HDD at ~52C when playing GPU intensive games. Are those temps dangerous?

[little cat]

GTX 960 SC
i5 3330
Seagate 1TB regular HDD
Dell 0Xr1GT motherboard

This is microATX mobo !!!

i5 3330
Tcase (CPU temp) = 67C
Tjunction (Core temp) = 72C
Tj Max (Throttle temp) = 105C

GTX 960
max T =98C
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-960/specifications

So , the temparatures CPU/GPU are stll safe but could be lower

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Are those temps loaded or idle? If idle, bad. If loaded, as @little cat said, "could be lower."

I believe you meant if there are no port changes your system wouldn't know the difference (same port and same drive).

You can switch cables all you want, so long as the drive at the end and port at the other don't change, the system won't have a clue.

HDDs are identified by serial number, not port. As long as the drive is connected to the correct controller, and the controller is familiar with the drive, it will function as if nothing changed.

 

[defred34]

Are those temps loaded or idle? If idle, bad. If loaded, as @little cat said, "could be lower."


HDDs are identified by serial number, not port. As long as the drive is connected to the correct controller, and the controller is familiar with the drive, it will function as if nothing changed.

You are making me confused and worried man about changing the slot position.

Those temps are when fully loaded.

I would also appreciate to know what the unknown motherboard temp readings could refer to. The RAM?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

One of them is probably the chipset. The other could be anything. If you look at status in the BIOS, it might give a better indicator as to what the temps are coming from.


1. Turn off computer and unplug it from the mains.
2. Unplug the blue SATA cable and black power cable from the HDD.
3. Unscrew the black screws and pull the HDD out.
4. Unscrew the silver screws and pull the secondary HDD mounts out.
5. Move the HDD to where the silver screws were and reassemble/screw it in the new location.
6. Screw the upper HDD slot back together (that is now vacant) so none of the parts are lost.
7. Plug in the blue data cable and the black power cables back into the HDD in its new location.
8. Replace the side panel on the computer.
9. Plug the computer back in and turn it on.

Everything should be good to go.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

^^^^^^^^^^

 

[defred34]

Mr Ford I will report back tomorrow and see if there is any impact on HDD temps after an hour of gaming at 80C.

Thanks!

Also, chipset is the CPU or another? If different, is 65C for the chipset acceptable?

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Chipset is separate from the CPU but connected directly to the CPU. I can't see it in your picture so it is probably under/behind the GPU. 65C is hot and again, it might be the GPU to blame. You really need a case with better airflow.

 

[EarthDog]

HDDs are identified by serial number, not port. As long as the drive is connected to the correct controller, and the controller is familiar with the drive, it will function as if nothing changed.

Correct. In this case, I left that point out as to not confuse the the OP with irrelevant to his situation/useful for others information.

 

[defred34]

This is a stock build. Which is he chipset? One thing for sure is the chipset temp moves in accordance with the GPU and not with the CPU.

http://oi42.tinypic.com/2144k5i.jpg

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

d/l and install this
HWMonitor

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

do a screen shot and post it please.

 

[peche]

GTX 960 SC
i5 3330
Seagate 1TB regular HDD
Dell 0Xr1GT motherboard

dammit its the 3rd time we tell you ... fill your system specs... complete
you ask for help but dont let to help...

Ok, I think maybe I just got paranoid and shouldn't have bothered with the temps at all. But in a worst case scenario, how are the following temps?

- 80C GPU
- 72C CPU
- 52C HDD
- 50C unknown motherboard temperature reading (I assume this is for "air flow"?)
- 65C unknown motherboard temperature reading (no idea what this is for...is there anything else important on the motherboard that has a temp reading?)

cpu temp seems normal ..
gpu its pretty normal too if using an air cooler...

 

[FordGT90Concept]

This is a stock build. Which is he chipset? One thing for sure is the chipset temp moves in accordance with the GPU and not with the CPU.

Right next to the GPU so makes sense that it would respond to the GPU load.

 

[defred34]

Wel that's stupid from Dell then. I can't see it so it's under the GPU, with the heatsinks blowing hot air. This one doesn't seem like case fans would help cool it down directly.

 

[peche]

you can add 2x120mm fans there in those spots for intake... thay may refresh your rig...but you might take front cover out for placing those fans...

 

[FordGT90Concept]

It would lower the ambient temperature and keep fresh, cool air flowing in the case reducing the temperatures across the board. Your ambient temp of 35C will stop it from getting really low but the case is very clearly designed for basic productivity tasks and nothing else. Put bluntly, that GTX 960 is too much for the thermal design of the case.

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you can add 2x120mm fans there in those spots for intake... thay may refresh your rig...but you might take front cover out for placing those fans...

Good catch. You can get the front bezel off the case by releasing the tabs. I see four: black, silver, black, and black. You'll have to release them on the back side of the case too.

 

[defred34]

A very simple question. Are my temps high and dangerous, or high but not dangerous?

 

[peche]

A very simple question. Are my temps high and dangerous, or high but not dangerous?

no ...

 

[FordGT90Concept]

I would define dangerous as setting things on fire. It's not that hot but it is hot enough that the hardware can be expected to die earlier than if it were running cooler.

 

[biffzinker]

You could add a chipset heatsink to the exposed PCH (Platform Controller Hub) since Dell didn't mount a heatsink to the chipset. You would need to measure the space between the holes at the corners of the chipset but this might work. http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...8mm_-_Silver_55mm_Hole_Spacing.html?tl=g40c16

You would still need to add some kind of air flow blowing into case behind the front plastic bezel for the heatsink on the chipset.

 

[defred34]

Ok well, just fingers crossed then that this lasts for some times then. I take it only the HDD and chipset temps are high, and that the the CPU temp is fine and the GPU temp is high but acceptable?

 

[alucasa]

I have HDDs running in 70c for years and they have been fine.

I bet 1U servers have them runnning on higher temp.

 

[Frick]

I have HDDs running in 70c for years and they have been fine.

I bet 1U servers have them runnning on higher temp.

I'm betting not. Those temps really do shorten the lifespan of the HDD, and there's a reason those units usually are very loud.

 

[alucasa]

High temp is fine. I have this camera surveillance unit that uses a 3.5 inch HDD and the thing has no fan but few holes. The unit has been too hot to touch but it's been running for nearly 7 years now.

VPS servers I have also have HDDs running in high 60s.

My media unit's HDD runs in 70s.

In my whole experience with computers, I've had only one HDD failure and that was from my main rig that's well ventilated. High temp will shorten life but it's not something we will notice. It will be obselete before its shortened lifespan has any effects.

 

[Frick]

I'm pretty sure most HDDs have their listed max temps in their 50s for s reason.

 

[alucasa]

Yep. I think they have it for the warranty and safety. Though I think enterprise HDDs should have higher temp tolerance. I just ignore HDD temps just as I ignore CPU temp until it hits 90c.

When WD had those vectiraptor, I am pretty sure those ran near 90c because at once point I had one that had the whole sticker on it burnt. WD black runs pretty hot on its own also. Most performance HDD will easily go over 50c. You don't really need to cool them though.