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That's a different issue, I feel. Selling cigs or alcohol to minors is illegal and so it should be for nicotine liquids, I can't really see any difference.
So... it is about regulating how poisonous they are.
I mean, it's great if they can slap those companies for deliberately putting unnecessary but harmful components into their cigarettes, but that doesn't change the fact that cigs are toxic by their very nature and that can't be changed.
The rabbit hole goes deeper.
Tobacco companies are doing stuff quite the same as what we saw with Dieselgate. They deploy a test process that is unlikely to resemble reality. They know they are exceeding regulatory limits, and created a reality that looks like they play by the rules. In other words, they could be liable for health implications caused by smoking - and continuing the practice with knowledge of it is in fact some form of indirect manslaughter. Which is pretty huge. After all, the end result of all this rule breaking is that even if you wanted to, the amount of addictive substances in a cigarette is só high, they create physical and mental dependancies much more rapidly and readily than we used to think - yet they tell the world the opposite is true.
You have to consider this is a long term battle with long term effects; someone who started smoking 30-40 years ago, when the awareness of how harmful it is simply wasn't there all too much, has been provided information that the harmful substances went down over the years as regulation kicked in. This appears not to be the case or, the test method is so screwed up its results cannot be trusted. New methods are now being deployed and they actually show us what really went down over the past decades.
There is a lot of stuff that is toxic in the world. And some of it we breathe every day. Dieselgate again; nOx... The moment it gets harmful though depends on the amount of that stuff you breathe, or we breathe, on average, on a daily basis. In the same way there is a difference between someone smoking all day every day and the occasional one. And in the same way, the concentration of harmful substances in a single cigarette gives you an idea, a baseline, to determine what is 'safe' within some (twisted?) reasonable margin, and what is só harmful you'd never even allow it in the first place. After all, if a cigarette actually appears to be as addictive as a shot of heroine, what would we do (its not; but still a whole lot more than we used to think), and what would we have done in the past decades?
That is why I say this is the exact same type of lobby; even with e-cigs it appears very likely that we are inhaling substances/combinations of substances in amounts that are way beyond healthy; while the e-cig is portrayed as a somewhat healthier/less damaging alternative.
Here, have a look
And yes, about the absurdity of regulation... look at weed and alcohol. We know for a fact alcohol is ten times more damaging, both on a personal and on a society level (alcohol related aggression, vandalism, domestic violence, etc.) yet alcohol is widely regarded as 'Okay'. In the same vein, the hard ban on harddrugs might be completely counterproductive, creating a scarce and highly volatile market with lots of violence and death involved, and the products coming out of it are hard to trust, versus legal alternatives that would have been regulated.
Regulation on substances like these will always be absurd, but there is some method to the madness - I guess, and as always, we humans are keen to create systems that give us the idea of control, freedom is a scary thing when it comes to these subjects, to many.