Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Mar 9, 2011.
Apparently, audiophiles are a picky bunch
Does it annoy you when people hate on Fruit products for reasons based on the same principle? probably not.
you mean apple bashing? only when there is competing products that do the same thing, for less. i hate iphones, but at least admit ipods have a place in the market (most other PMP's have shitty UI's)
Interesting announce & comments (specially from the audiophiles ), however...Does anyone know if these things finally have magnetic shielding? Or do you still have to make room so you dont screw your other electronics???
They've always had magnetic shielding.
Its effectiveness might be arguable though..
EDIT: the subwoofer has, apparently, not been magnetic shielded as such, but again .. this might be a debatable point.
in my opinion I think no audio is better than mediocre audio. compromises are taboo on your ears. you either build a home theater or don't.
the subW on the z-5500 ain't shielded-ever- which is annoying, and 1 of the reasons I didn't get a replacement for that system (and considering substitutes before the warranty runs out)
THX, or home theatre, is already a compromise on true audio as it stands.
Most of the time, however, this sounds just fine.
When working with pure audio, this simply won't cut it :/
That's fair enough too, but begs the question: why have your subbie so close to your PC that it could affect it?
I've had a number of very strong magnets hanging off HDDs to see how this would affect said HDDs and had a zero affect on the HDDs, so for any speaker to cause grief, I'm intrigued how this has adversely affected anyone's PC?
in order to meet your level of standards, no one would have any audio at all, or keyboards for that matter.
i dunno, i can draw a line between what i need, and what i think others need. forcing my opinions upon others seems... douchey.
One's ears are one's judgement
Well yes and no. Go to a proper audio store and listen to an awesome $20,000 setup and then listen to something on your phone using $5 ear plugs you bought at an airport. You WILL hear a huge difference (maybe especially when playing lower volumes), but the question is how much you care for it and how much money you're willing to spend.
The same goes for a 2.1 Linn setup actually.
It boils down to one very simple truth: Just because you care, doesn't mean others will, or have to.
This is virtually applicable to everything, from power tools to computers to phones to bread to milk to condoms. And why do people do this all the time, even when they knew the logic behind it? We know perfectly why.
My dear fellow.. I'm a composer & am quite aware of limitations in the audio field.
As such, though, I'm also acutely aware of the limitations that are placed upon the PC crowd when it comes to PC audio.
I agree with you whole-heartedly, but the point here is what is best for the market catered to and in this instance, I'm not so sure Logitech is all that far off the mark, so to speak.
For what it is and for the market catered to, I'm yet to be convinced this setup is as bad as some would make it out to be.
I don't, I try to keep it as far as i can given the space & stuff, but still is kindda annoying, and I haven't ruined any other electronic (yet) because the z-5500 came with a warning sticker in the sub about leaving...60 cms (if I remember well) between the sub and any other thing, which I have followed
So.. you had issues even after following these "instructions"?
Aside that the central channel died quite fast??? Not really. Theres the risk mentioned back in the day by sites reviews (& Logitech themselves) which as i said Im not interested in "testing" But no other serious problems, though Im interested in upgrading, but due to some complications (mainly extra expenses that keep on poping, preventing me from saving & going to a better option) I have not proceeded yet to make a move.
You may wish to follow Wile_E's advice and go for something like the suggested Onkyo instead.
Your ears will love you for it
Or not, as the case may be
consumers need to manage budgets, make better decisions and stop compromising. people don't seem to compromise on picture quality but when it comes to audio consumers will spend $4000 on a television but only $300 on speakers.
it's 6:30 in the morning am I making sense?
Too true .. on both accounts XD
Truth lies in the ear of the beholder
Actually, my candidates did not include Onkyo (at least on speakers) My candidates so far, putting aside the last resort of Teufel PC speakers, are (in case you or anyone on this thread is interested in knowing) the following contenders :
Mirage Omnis < om-5>
B&W < M1 - MT30 pack>
or perhaps something from NHT or Energy don't know yet, and then I will have to deal with getting a receiver, which is something I really don't like about hifi HT stuff - and where I have to give an advantage point to PC speakers
Understood, albeit that I'm a bit miffed about the Cambridge inclusion.
HT will always represent a compromise of sorts, so whatever is capable of giving you the best clarity at your preferred price-point, is the one to go for, regardless of brand (most tend to be within 1% of each other anyway, and a difference you can only notice if you're picky AND wearing headphones ).
EDIT: *really* picky xD
Jamo S606HCS3 5.0 with Bic F12
Definitive Technology Mythos
I hope the Z906 aren't as bad as the Logitech Z-5500 !
I hope the Z906 aren't as bad as the Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speaker system. I bought the Z-5500 after my Klipsch Promedia 5.1 died. I was stunned by how bad the Z-5500 was in comparison. People who liked the Z-5500 never compared them against anything else. Boomy, high pitched with no middle :-(
The Z-5500 was all about good looks, performance was secondary. I swapped out the satellite speakers that came with the Z-5500 system for my Klipsch Promedia speakers and there was a great improvement in sound quality.
I wish Klipsch would get back into making 5.1 Speaker systems for computers since all I have owned by Logitech has been about the Bling not so much quality
I really hope that this time around it is about the sound quality and not the cool look!
Even in that situation, these are still junk. For the amount of money they are charging, they should have better quality speakers (at least give us a proper 2 way design on the sats, ffs.), and HDMI inputs.
And for your space? Polk RM6750's with amp of your choice. Sats are the same relative size, and sound several times better. Polk Audio RM6750 Black 5.1CH Home Theater Speaker...
These are terrible speakers. If they were half the price, they would be great. If they offered more for the money than they currently do, they would be great. They fail on both accounts.
Again, it is the price that makes these shitty speakers. People need to realize they are being gouged. Buying these is no different in principle than buying a MacBook Pro.
If it's gonna be PC sound only, you can use analog out straight into a 5 channel amp, and just use the PC to control the volume.
Also look into Paradigm.
Hsu Research for subs in the bang for buck category. They are a direct order company, so there subs compete with the major brands, but at a much lower price point for the same level of performance.
Do yourself a favor, and buy a home theater setup. If you absolutely can't fit a receiver, look into powered studio monitors.
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