Help choosing motherboard and features

[michael]

Do you realize the tuner card can be installed in any PCIE slot. I think your making too much of your choice and need to study up on motherboards. The UD7 has everything you would ever want.

Yes, I agree that I might not be knowing most of the things regarding motherboard, but I learned most of the things fro you guys since last two weeks, But I still have many questions.

I have been told in this forum from few guys that and I also read that PCI-E slot is much better than PCI,so I am not looking for TV Tuner card or any Asus Xonar card having PCI connectors. I want only PCI-Express cards.

http://www.flipkart.com/avermedia-a...R9VY&ref=81ee92d6-70a0-4bee-8e66-22014719563d

http://www.flipkart.com/avermedia-d...HAUZ&ref=81ee92d6-70a0-4bee-8e66-22014719563d

And I guess youare talking about gigabyte UP7 and not UD7(it has only one pci-e x1 slot)

Please refer attached image of two Asus Sound card, please tell me which one is better PCI or PCI-E?

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I think he just needs to re-evaluate what he wants for his system, and research everything and buy a motherboard and everything else for what he wants to use it for. He has been all over the place with questions. mSATA, PCI vs PCIe, sound cards, TV Tuners, etc.

Yes, I agree that I might not be knowing most of the things regarding motherboard, but I learned most of the things fro you guys since last two weeks, But I still have many questions.

I have been told in this forum from few guys that and I also read that PCI-E slot is much better than PCI,so I am not looking for TV Tuner card or any Asus Xonar card having PCI connectors. I want only PCI-Express cards.

http://www.flipkart.com/avermedia-a...R9VY&ref=81ee92d6-70a0-4bee-8e66-22014719563d

http://www.flipkart.com/avermedia-d...HAUZ&ref=81ee92d6-70a0-4bee-8e66-22014719563d

And I guess youare talking about gigabyte UP7 and not UD7(it has only one pci-e x1 slot)

Please refer attached image of two Asus Sound card, please tell me which one is better PCI or PCI-E?

Okay, why do you need a sound card?

Unless you are running really expensive speaker setup or something like that, a sound card is going to gain you Dudley squat. Absolutely nothing. Integrated sound chips on motherboards these days are so good already, dedicated sound cards are becoming history. As long as the motherboard has a Realtek ALC 892 or 898 you don't have much of a reason for sound card. Just a waste of money and slot on the motherboard.

 

[michael]

I think he just needs to re-evaluate what he wants for his system, and research everything and buy a motherboard and everything else for what he wants to use it for. He has been all over the place with questions. mSATA, PCI vs PCIe, sound cards, TV Tuners, etc.

I need two onbord LAn ports, want to connect tv tuner, sound card and if not onboard wifi like Asus then pci-e wifi card connect all three at same time. ans yes mstata ssd connector as well as well, none of MSi board has all this on same board, Gigabyte UP7 coming near to my choice but dont know whether pci asus sound card is better choice for it or not.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I need two onbord LAn ports, want to connect tv tuner, sound card and if not onboard wifi like Asus then pci-e wifi card connect all three at same time. ans yes mstata ssd connector as well as well, none of MSi board has all this on same board, Gigabyte UP7 coming near to my choice but dont know whether pci asus sound card is better choice for it or not.

And your reason for needing these things is? Like what is this system going to be used for. So far, sounds like you only need virtualization as the main usage, in which case sound card, TV tuner isn't going to do anything for you in that regard, and you don't NEED 2 onboard LAN ports, I was wrong about that. Also why do you want a mSATA? And most motherboards can run these, because they use a standard PCIe interface.

 

[michael]

Hey hi guys,

Thanks for your replies.
So I have finally decided that I would go with Asus Maximus V Formula.

I have few questions :-

1. Should I go with G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 8 GB 1600Mhz
OR
G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 8 GB 1866Mhz RAM ?

yes for 1866Mhz , I need to do OC. Bt Can I run my system for 48 hours continuously at such speed with i7 3770k ?

2.What is the extra advantage I would get if I buy G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 8 GB 1866Mhz RAM ?

3. what the best and silent cooler than Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Cooler ?

Please reply.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Just get the 1600mhz kit. The jump to 1866 is miniscule, you wont notice a difference in daily usage.

A 3770k can run memory 27/4 at 2400mhz+. Has a lot to do with what motherboard you run though.

 

[Shou Miko]

Yes, I agree that I might not be knowing most of the things regarding motherboard, but I learned most of the things fro you guys since last two weeks, But I still have many questions.

I have been told in this forum from few guys that and I also read that PCI-E slot is much better than PCI,so I am not looking for TV Tuner card or any Asus Xonar card having PCI connectors. I want only PCI-Express cards.

http://www.flipkart.com/avermedia-a...R9VY&ref=81ee92d6-70a0-4bee-8e66-22014719563d

http://www.flipkart.com/avermedia-d...HAUZ&ref=81ee92d6-70a0-4bee-8e66-22014719563d

And I guess youare talking about gigabyte UP7 and not UD7(it has only one pci-e x1 slot)

Please refer attached image of two Asus Sound card, please tell me which one is better PCI or PCI-E?

i got the STX and it's the best Audio card i have had to date, i started out with onboard Realtek then went to SupremeFX X-Fi (Asus Maximus III Gene) and then to a dedicated Auzentech Bravura 7.1 and then my Asus Xonar Essence STX and all along the way i felt like sound improvment with my headphones i had and i had my Creative Aurvana tested out on my Auzentech too and it just got better with my STX and u buy the price but u get a really god card, but bare in mind if u buy the ST version u need motherboard with PCI slot.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Also Michael, like I have been saying. You are going to want more memory then 8GB for virtualization. Go for 16-32GB from the start, also make sure you are buying dual channel kits, not just a single stick of memory.

 

[michael]

Also Michael, like I have been saying. You are going to want more memory then 8GB for virtualization. Go for 16-32GB from the start, also make sure you are buying dual channel kits, not just a single stick of memory.

Hey Guys,
Thanks a lot for your replies. See my plan about my new CPU.

Already bought:
Antec LAN Boy Air (yellow)
Segate 3TB( I already have 1TB and 500GB hard Disks)

Planned to buy in next week:
i7 3770k
Asus maximus V Formula
Gskill 16 GB 1600Mhz (red ones)

Still need to decide on/ confused about:-
-best and silent cooler than Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Cooler ?
-Cooler Master Silent Pro M850 850 Watts PSU is expensive can you suggest me any other which is as silent as this one and capable ?

Please Reply.

 

[michael]

Just get the 1600mhz kit. The jump to 1866 is miniscule, you wont notice a difference in daily usage.

A 3770k can run memory 27/4 at 2400mhz+. Has a lot to do with what motherboard you run though.

Well I am going to buy Asus maximus V Formula, so what is advisable speed that I can run my Gskill 2 * 8GB RAM other than its native 1600MHz with noticible difference ?
Please advise.

Can anyone reply

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Well I am going to buy Asus maximus V Formula, so what is advisable speed that I can run my Gskill 2 * 8GB RAM other than its native 1600MHz with noticible difference ?
Please advise.

Can anyone reply

just run the 1600mhz. Don't bother trying to tweak, till you actually know what you are doing.

 

[michael]

just run the 1600mhz. Don't bother trying to tweak, till you actually know what you are doing.

1600Mhz !!Yeah
Would you please answer my question regarding CPU Cooler and PSU?
Cooler for best cooling and
PSU slient but enough powerful.

 

[michael]

What is difference between these 2 HDMI ports?

Hi Guys,

What is difference between these two ports?
And which HDMI cable should I ask for to connect my LG LED Monitor with my HDMI port on Asus MAximus V Formula?

What is difference between following two ports where one is shown as Display port and 2nd as HDMI port, aren't these both ports HDMI ? Is this 2nd HDMI port used to connect to mobile with HDMI port to motherboard ?

Thanks,
Please reply.

 

[silkstone]

They are different.You can find the technical info on google easily.

HDMI carries audio too. Not as many screens have a DP input in my experience.

 

[michael]

Well so Guys, I am constrained to buy V Formula, despite not being fully happy with its review regarding performance with over clocking and some reviews telling some problems regarding on board wifi connectivity. Had V Formula dual onboard port would have been great too.
I cant buy thunderFx here in my city, extreme would have been great choice if it had 3 pci-e x1 slot rather just one.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Well so Guys, I am constrained to buy V Formula, despite not being fully happy with its review regarding performance with over clocking and some reviews telling some problems regarding on board wifi connectivity. Had V Formula dual onboard port would have been great too.
I cant buy thunderFx here in my city, extreme would have been great choice if it had 3 pci-e x1 slot rather just one.

Like I said before. You can put a PCIe x1 device in a PCIe x4 or 16 slot.

What reviews are you reading? Retail reviews from where you buy from, or actual review articles, by people like Cadaveca?

 

[michael]

Like I said before. You can put a PCIe x1 device in a PCIe x4 or 16 slot.

What reviews are you reading? Retail reviews from where you buy from, or actual review articles, by people like Cadaveca?

I read some review by google that some guys facing problems with onboard wifi being not that great. I have read cadaveca review as well.

Do you give me guarantee that PCIe x1 device give same output after being connected in PCIe x4 or 16 slot? I did not find any other person telling me this except you.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I read some review by google that some guys facing problems with onboard wifi being not that great. I have read cadaveca review as well.

Do you give me guarantee that PCIe x1 device give same output after being connected in PCIe x4 or 16 slot? I did not find any other person telling me this except you.

They are the same slot. just different electrically x1 vs x4 vs x8 vs x16

X16 is full PCIe lanes and x1 is the smallest.

 

[michael]

They are the same slot. just different electrically x1 vs x4 vs x8 vs x16

X16 is full PCIe lanes and x1 is the smallest.

Ohh Dear, is it really TRUE? pcie x1 can be connected in pcie x4, x8 , x16?
then I might have to rethink about my motherboard ?
Is there anyone who also second to Phenom on this regard?
Hi Phenom, and what about performance do we get same performance if we connect pcie x1 in pcie x 16 ??

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Ohh Dear, is it really TRUE? pcie x1 can be connected in pcie x4, x8 , x16?
then I might have to rethink about my motherboard ?
Is there anyone who also second to Phenom on this regard?
Hi Phenom, and what about performance do we get same performance if we connect pcie x1 in pcie x 16 ??

There are a ton of posts about it.

https://www.google.com/#sclient=psy...4,d.cGE&fp=5c43e15f42c1bd3d&biw=1920&bih=1105

 

[michael]

Well, That even I can understand that pcie x1 can fit in pcie x16.
But what about performance or output? Does that pcie x1 card lacks in output as being connected in pcie x16 slot??

 

[michael]

one more thing which hdmi cable should I buy to connect my V Formula board to my LED LG monitor to its HDMI port? I am confused as V Formula has two ports one HDMI and one Display port.
Will below cable work?
http://www.flipkart.com/red-gear-hd...YSJM&ref=7a7e2a04-3e38-413b-92a9-19710845db13

If not can you provide me the link where I can see which cable is used to connect my V FormulA BOARD to HDMI monitor?

In simple word for display, a cable will connect from HDMI to HDMI or from motherboards Display port to monitors HDMI ??

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Well, That even I can understand that pcie x1 can fit in pcie x16.
But what about performance or output? Does that pcie x1 card lacks in output as being connected in pcie x16 slot??

The PCie x1 card will use the bandwidth it can get from its interface. the x16 slot it is plugged into will only supply x1 worth of bandwidth to the device since that is all it needs.

Also to answer your other question above, any full sized HDMI cable will work.

 

[michael]

The PCie x1 card will use the bandwidth it can get from its interface. the x16 slot it is plugged into will only supply x1 worth of bandwidth to the device since that is all it needs.

Also to answer your other question above, any full sized HDMI cable will work.

Ohh great! Thanks for quick response. I would love to add Gadget freak people like you in my Facebook account

If PCIx1 works in PCIx16 then I might go for extreme or UP7, which one you suggest for best performance?

full sized HDMI ?, then what is use of display port on v formula board ?

 

[michael]

Can I do this with Asus V Extreme?

Hi Guys,

Can I install a PCIe X1 TV Tuner card, PCIe X1 sound card and PCIe X1 Netword adaptor card along with PCIe X16 graphics card on Asus Maximus V Extreme motherboard all at a same time if not can I do the same things with Gigabyte UP7?

Please advise I really want to do this.