Help me decide on a gaming monitor

[Mighty-Lu-Bu]

So I want to get a 1440p gaming monitor and here are some of my must haves:

-Needs to be 1440p
-Needs to be priced under $450
-Needs to have a refresh rate of at least 100Hz or above
-Needs to have a response time of 4ms or below
-Needs to be at least 27 inches

So here are the contenders:


https://www.amazon.com/Acer-ED323QU...36767099&sr=8-1&keywords=Acer+ED323QUR+Abidpx

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-XG270HU...&sr=1-17&keywords=Acer+gaming+monitor+27+inch

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01G5JYN0C/ref=psdc_1292115011_rv_t1_B00VRCLHYS


I am leaning towards Acer's Abidpx because even though it has a slightly less response time when compared to the other models, it has a larger screen by 4.5 inches and it comes in two color options: white and silver (I usually go for white system builds) or black and red.

I am most likely going to be doing a i7-9700K build in the very new feature and like I said I can go with white and black components or I can go with black and red. Obviously black and red is more easily available, but I just feel like white looks a bit cleaner.

Anyways, the other options are great as well, but what do you guys think is the best overall?

 

[Deleted member 178884]

1st one seems to be the best hands down.

 

[cucker tarlson]

xg270hu

I would not recommend VA for gaming, it's slower than IPS and TN in pixel response.And why exactly do people need curve on their display ? Aren't you running a nvidia gpu ? Get g-sync or switch to Vega 56.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

I would not recommend VA for gaming, it's slower than IPS and TN in pixel response.

The first panel has a 4ms response time doubt it'll make a massive difference.

 

[cucker tarlson]

The first panel has a 4ms response time doubt it'll make a massive difference.

Bull Crap....

Had a 5ms VA and 4ms IPS, the difference was like +10 fps in favor of IPS. The VA has just so much trailing and smearing and blur.

 

[Mighty-Lu-Bu]

xg270hu

I would not recommend VA for gaming, it's slower than IPS and TN in pixel response.And why exactly do people need curve on their display ? Aren't you running a nvidia gpu ? Get g-sync.

What is VA? I am clueless about gaming monitors.

As for why get a curved, here are some supposed benefits:

https://www.viewsonic.com/library/entertainment/curved-vs-flat-monitors

I do have an Nvidia GPU, but if I want a G-Sync 27 inch monitor I am going to be paying $600 easy and that completely falls out of my price bracket.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

In regards to the 4ms vs 1ms (GTG) monitor I doubt the OP can tell the difference between 0.001 seconds and 0.004 seconds.

What is VA?

VA is a monitor panel used on the first monitor.

 

[Mighty-Lu-Bu]

In regards to the 4ms vs 1ms (GTG) monitor I doubt the OP can tell the difference between 0.001 seconds and 0.004 seconds.


VA is a monitor panel used on the first monitor.

So basically, it is older technology which might explain why the monitor is so cheap. Hmm... this changes things a bit.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

it is older technology

I meant the monitor on the first link.

 

[cucker tarlson]

It's a type of panel. It's great for movies and good for slow paced games but worse than IPS and TN for fast paced games due to blur it produces.

Freesync/g-sync are worth it, I would not buy a gaming monitor without them at this point. It's just something about having your fps and refresh synced perfectly while having no v-sync inuced lag that makes games silky smooth. I can see a difference between a game running at 120 fps g-sync and 120 fps with 165hz fixed refresh instantly, it's just not that smooth.

 

[Mighty-Lu-Bu]

I meant the monitor on the first link.

I got this breakdown:

• IPS: Best all-rounder for colours and viewing angles; there are some very high-refresh-rate panels coming onto the market
• VA: Poorer response times than IPS and TN, but very deep blacks and great viewing angles
• TN: The fastest, but normally with poorer viewing angles but higher refresh rates

Read more at https://www.trustedreviews.com/news...-colour-explained-2948955#YyMbCmyLrJrV2fvr.99

So I guess VA wouldn't be that bad of an option...

 

[Deleted member 178884]

Poorer response times than IPS and TN,

That's a generalised statement - the first monitor link has a response time of 4ms, which is as low as it'll go.

 

[cucker tarlson]

IPS at 27" will have backlight bleed and glow too.

I use xb24yu as my main gaming monitor and it's just perfect. No flaws that are inherent to VA (blur and slow pixel response) or IPS (backlight bleed and glow), g-sync+ulmb, good,vibrant and saturated colors thanks to good factory settings and very decent osd, not IPS-like colors but really nice and greta image crispness. I would not change anything in it even if I could.

If you don't want to pay for g-sync then get Vega 56, variable refresh rate is worth it.

That's a generalised statement - the first monitor link has a response time of 4ms, which is as low as it'll go.

And as bogus of a figure as you can get.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

And as bogus of a figure as you can get.

The xg270hu has a response time of 1ms (GTG) - it does not have a true response time of 1ms and will typically be around 2-3ms, 4ms isn't far behind. The VA blur issue is the only thing holding the first panel back since it meets the op's needs and has a larger display panel.

 

[cucker tarlson]

The xg270hu has a response time of 1ms (GTG) - it does not have a true response time of 1ms and will typically be around 2-3ms, 4ms isn't far behind. The VA blur issue is the only thing holding the first panel back since it meets the op's needs and has a larger display panel.

Lol, it does not have 4ms response time, no VA can have 4ms unless it's in strobing mode.Why even bother with high refresh rate is it's gonna have blur and trailing or ghosting.It's gonna take a lot from that experience.

This is a 200Hz VA at extreme overdrive

9ms at 200Hz and extreme overdrive with huge overshoot, quote from the test

"(...) this lead to some high levels of overshoot, and obvious dark and pale trails in motion tests "


144hz ips at normal overdrive

6ms and 0.3% error average while VA has 10%.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

200Hz VA at extreme overdrive

High refresh rates like that? you'll want a TN panel.

6ms and 0.3% error average while VA has 10%.

You are comparing a 200hz VA at extreme overdrive to a 144hz ips at normal overdrive, very very different.

 

[Mighty-Lu-Bu]

So the others are TN, so what would be the best TN option?

Also- I have recently been thinking about upgrading my graphics card from a EVGA 1070 Superclocked to a Sapphire Vega 64 Nitro- I have seen these Vega 64 variants on sale locally and online for in the $500 range. This would also be a pretty decent step up from my current card.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

So the others are TN, so what would be the best TN option?

Your call, however if you expecting excellent display quality TN will not provide that.

 

[cucker tarlson]

VA is just poor for gaming compared to IPS and TN.

If you go for settings that will not expose overshoot that much, then your response gets noticeably worse in comparison to IPS

not to mention TN at 144hz

Your call, however if you expecting excellent display quality TN will not provide that.

Oh sorry, I thought you said decent.

There's awful TN's, there's decent ones. Depends on panel and how they're calibrated. IPS had nice colors but some get tons of blb, I would not call that excellent either.

Again, I'd still suggest IPS over TN if you're okay with backlight bleed.

 

[Deleted member 178884]

not to mention TN at 144hz

That's because TN panels are faster than IPS panels and cheaper, they do have worse colour reproduction though. It's up to the OP in the end but it's best to check overall reviews since TN panels will always be superior in response time for the time being.

 

[cucker tarlson]

That's because TN panels are faster than IPS panels and cheaper, they do have worse colour reproduction though. It's up to the OP in the end but it's best to check overall reviews since TN panels will always be superior in response time for the time being.

Problem is everyone has their own standards. I personally can't stand VA motion blur + trailing and IPS glow, happiest I ever was with a gaming monitor was a fast TN with decent 8-bit panel and proper factory settings, decently saturated colors and very little banding.

I'd advise the OP to get amd+freesync or nvidia+g-sync and not go with VA. if he sticks to that he'll be happy.

 

[Mighty-Lu-Bu]

Problem is everyone has their own standards. I personally can't stand VA motion blur + trailing and IPS glow, happiest I ever was with a gaming monitor was a fast TN with decent 8-bit panel and proper factory settings, decently saturated colors and very little banding.

I'd advise the OP to get amd+freesync or nvidia+g-sync and not go with VA. if he sticks to that he'll be happy.

It seems that a vast majority of gaming monitors out there are TN which I am fine with. You recommended the Acer which looks pretty good honestly, but I also like that AOC. Are there any other recommendations you can make based on my price range?

 

[cucker tarlson]

IPS or TN ?

 

[Mighty-Lu-Bu]

IPS or TN ?

I mean as long as it falls within my price range I don't mind, but there aren't a ton of 1440p gaming monitors out there that are IPS. From what I have seen, a vast majority of them are TN. If there is something better that what I listed that fits my price range I am all for it.

 

[cucker tarlson]

I'm not that in touch with the whole market, I've had so many different experiences with monitors that now I just know what I'm looking for specifically in a display and buy that, I don't know about best across the board monitors for a given price.

edit: xg270hu is TN too, thought it was IPS.

Get the aoc (height regulation) + vega 56.

If you wanna stay with 1070 cheapest 1440p 144hz 27" g-sync I find is

https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-XB271HU-Abmiprz-2560x1440/dp/B01N11QIYW

though I can attest for the build quality and good colors of acer's predator line TN's, got one myself.


I'd personally go vega 56 and aoc freesync.