Help me get a stutter free/lag free PC experience (

LifeOnMars · Mar 23, 2009

Its a long story so I wont go too in depth. I've never truly felt that my system has been as it should be. I built my first one last year which consisted of -

6000 windsor
asus m2r32mvp
hd 4850
corsair 620 hx
2gb kingston ram

Had all sorts of stuttering in most games. Traded the 4850 for a 9800gt, slightly better experience but nothing amazing. I've tried a soundcard in there with no joy. I now have a new processor and still the problem persists... I also have some new OCZ ram and still it persists. I only game at 1280 x 1024 and its on a VGA monitor with a dvi to vga convertor. I want to basically go through all of the things that will eventually lead me to find the soure of this problem. Help me with software suggestions to try out my hardware and any information that may help me.

ShadowFold · Mar 23, 2009

vLite the hell outta Vista64 and use that. I know my games ran really smooth using a custom vista install.

LifeOnMars · Mar 23, 2009

I have tried numerous different installs of different OS's. Vista 32, 64, XP 32, 64 and even tried win 7. Its something wrong with my system as a whole I think. Im very new to how PC hardware works and its like I keep setting something up wrong or there is a defective bit of hardware that I cant pinpoint. I mean my PSU should be decent but i wouldnt know how to check if it was working to its max or not.

Also its like benchmaking software seem to tell me that my system is running as it should, such as vantage and 3d mark but then I never have an enjoyable game experience as there is always something wrong with the games I try to play such as lower frame rate than normal, or overall smoothness?? Its just really frustrating.

Steevo · Mar 23, 2009

There could be a hundred little things.

Is your PCIe set at full link width? Is it set for two lane communication or one lane? Memory timings, and cool & quiet.

LifeOnMars · Mar 23, 2009

Steevo said:
There could be a hundred little things.

Is your PCIe set at full link width? Is it set for two lane communication or one lane? Memory timings, and cool & quiet.

Exactly and being a total PC novice I want to work my way methodically through them so I can get my moneys worth from my system. Two lane communication is that for crossfire? Its currently running x16 for the only PCIE lane on the board.

Steevo · Mar 23, 2009

Verify that by posting a screenshot of GPU-Z. It is created here, and downloaded here.

LifeOnMars · Mar 23, 2009

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n-ster · Mar 23, 2009

maybe your mobo is stugling because all ram slots are filled? just a thought... try to use 2 sticks to see if that's the problem... oh and your card seems running fine

LifeOnMars · Mar 23, 2009

I've had a 2x2 config, 1 x 4, 1 x 2 and still always the same results.

DrPepper · Mar 23, 2009

Run us a 3dmark06 and tell us the score it might be able to tell us something.

n-ster · Mar 23, 2009

temps? does your case seem hot? ever tried another HDD or Mobo?

BroBQ · Mar 23, 2009

I would look into some software tweaks for Vista ... There are a number of things you can do to increase performance on vista. If you're interested, let me know...

There are also tweaks for hardware as well built into Vista.

LifeOnMars · Mar 23, 2009

how do i go about creating a dual boot system?

BroBQ · Mar 23, 2009

This should help you ...

http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_vista_and_xp_with_vista_installed_first__the_stepbystep_guide.htm

Asylum · Mar 23, 2009

As asked before...What kind of temps are you running at full load on processor and graphics card? If you are running hot that will cause shuttering in games!!

n-ster · Mar 23, 2009

Yup... Asylum's right, hence why I asked for temps

ShadowFold · Mar 23, 2009

I have a very similar rig, 7750 Kuma is about as good as a 6000+ and the 4830 and 9800GT are about equal. I say get some more ram, you say you have a 2gb kit, but in your specs it says 4gb. I noticed a large jump in speed going from 2 to 4gb.

n-ster · Mar 23, 2009

LifeOnMars said:
I've had a 2x2 config, 1 x 4, 1 x 2 and still always the same results.

He's got 4gb

LifeOnMars · Mar 23, 2009

Asylum said:
As asked before...What kind of temps are you running at full load on processor and graphics card? If you are running hot that will cause shuttering in games!!

53c load on the CPU Prime 95 7 hrs and the GPU goes to 71c load. 3D Mark 06 I get 12700.

n-ster · Mar 23, 2009

Your temps are good... 3D Mark idk

but I'll search a bit...
From what I've seen, your 3D mark looks very good too....

DrPepper · Mar 23, 2009

LifeOnMars said:
53c load on the CPU Prime 95 7 hrs and the GPU goes to 71c load. 3D Mark 06 I get 12700.

That score is exactly what I was expecting. Temps are good. Have you tried reformatting ?

n-ster · Mar 23, 2009

Yea... MAYBE a virus? I still doubt that but might as well try to do some virus scans and reformatting!

LifeOnMars · Mar 24, 2009

I've reformatted that many times i know the keys for all my OS's. My favourite game is bloody "Beat the BIOS".....Could it be a monitor problem....vga connection with a dvi converter? And how do I check the reliability/functioning of my PSU?

thebeephaha · Mar 24, 2009

How is your hard drive, does it have lots of activity going on during games? Like lots of background stuff running?

LifeOnMars · Mar 24, 2009

I've been testing with the GPU today and the stuttering is definitely more prevalent when it loads out at 71c.....I dont want to boost the fan up as its whisper quiet system, can anyone reccommend an aftermarket cooler for the 9800GT, one that ideally cools the memory as well.

thebeephaha - Hard drive activity seems perfectly normal and there is definitely no excessive whirring.

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Motherboard	Asrock B450M Pro4-F
Cooling	Vetroo V5
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 32Gb (8gb x 4) 3200 MHz DDR 4
Video Card(s)	6700 XT
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 1Tb, Samsung 860 Evo 500Gb,WD Black 8Tb, WD Blue 2Tb
Display(s)	Gigabyte G24F-2 (180Hz Freesync) & 4K Samsung TV
Case	Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact w/Dark Tempered Glass
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	MSI MPG A850GF (850w)
VR HMD	Rift S

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Storage	Western Digital 640gb
Display(s)	Acer 21.5" 5ms Full HD 1920x1080P
Case	Antec Nine-Hundred
Audio Device(s)	Onboard + Creative "Fatal1ty" Headset
Power Supply	Antec Earthwatts 650w
Software	Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Benchmark Scores	-❶-❸-❸-❼-

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Motherboard	Asrock B450M Pro4-F
Cooling	Vetroo V5
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 32Gb (8gb x 4) 3200 MHz DDR 4
Video Card(s)	6700 XT
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 1Tb, Samsung 860 Evo 500Gb,WD Black 8Tb, WD Blue 2Tb
Display(s)	Gigabyte G24F-2 (180Hz Freesync) & 4K Samsung TV
Case	Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact w/Dark Tempered Glass
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	MSI MPG A850GF (850w)
VR HMD	Rift S

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Audio Device(s)	ATI HDMI
Mouse	Logitech MX518
Keyboard	Razer
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Processor	Ryzen 5 5600X
Motherboard	Asrock B450M Pro4-F
Cooling	Vetroo V5
Memory	Crucial Ballistix 32Gb (8gb x 4) 3200 MHz DDR 4
Video Card(s)	6700 XT
Storage	Samsung 860 Evo 1Tb, Samsung 860 Evo 500Gb,WD Black 8Tb, WD Blue 2Tb
Display(s)	Gigabyte G24F-2 (180Hz Freesync) & 4K Samsung TV
Case	Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact w/Dark Tempered Glass
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	MSI MPG A850GF (850w)
VR HMD	Rift S

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