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I wouldn't recommend using fluid of any sort, especially inside a slot where it's harder to dry.
Isopropyl alcohol that’s 90% alcohol content is fine for a cleaning agent. It dries instantly, just be careful with some plastics and finishes.
 
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Well my older cpu is now in place with zero bent pins and it’s runs the same exact way, it starts then stops then repeats so it’s not some cpu issue, I feel like the power supply is the culprit but I have tried two different power supplies and it has changed since I’m going to change everything out and replace the power supply with the kinda newer one and not change the cpu because I do feel like it’s a voltage issue

Tomorrow I’m gonna go get a new power supply what’s the best my budget is $200

However,

If your old power supply damaged the motherboard, a new power supply is not going to magically repair it.
 
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If your old power supply damaged the motherboard, a new power supply is not going to magically repair it.
Cheap PSUs are such a menace for this reason; $30 skimped on the PSU can cost ten times that in damage and wasted time trying to troubleshoot them.

If I see a PSU that is obviously junk, I don't even bother diagnosing the system until I've unplugged it and run power from something known to be decent.

In this case though, it's a reasonably new 80+ Bronze that qualifies as "just about okay" and it's never even seen half load in its whole life.
 
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I left my pc at my girlfriends but the older psu isn’t so great, when I get there today I will let you know, but I can tell you it’s not that great it’s been sitting in my closet ever since I got the gamemax one

The older psu is channel well technology, it’s 80 plus bronze with a total of 110w
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I’m not surprised if these two psu suck and that’s the problem

But I’m thinking it’s the worse something shortening my mb and it’s not getting enough power.
 
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with a total of 110w
That's for the 5 volt, and 3.3 volt rails combined. The 12v rail is good for up to 38.0Amps (456watts.) That's the one that matters. You could still try swapping the power supply the only issue is the power supply doesn't have enough capacity for the CPU, and GPU at a heavy load.
 
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UPDATE boys got bored unplugged one ram stick and left one in and it boots up what could be the problem
 
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Possibly or a bios problem if I let it boot up and it I plugg the one ram in and it kills it I know the problem
 
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Without knowing what's in the Gamemax PSU, I'd probably say the CWT is better. Channel Well are a decent, if not great, OEM for other more popular brands. My experience of their own-brand models is that they're decent.

Depends how old it is though. If it has had 10 years of continuous use then it's probably not delivering 500W any more.
 
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Now I’m stuck in a automatic preparing repair then once I hard power it off it boots up then resets then sends me to the boot thing do you know how to get out of here

it’s a loop first it automatically preparing repair then you have to power it down, then it boots up then it blue screens with a your pc is running into problems we will reset it for you type of thing then after the reset you are sent to the menu where you can tweak with your cpu and stuff and you exit by saving the changes and it repeats

I’m out of ideas I’m back at square one it no longer boots up might just salvage the pieces and start from the start or save up for a new setup I wanna thank you all for your time i truely appreciate it. I think it’s done for I could go out and buy a new power supply and try but I feel like nothing will change

I wanna go get a new power supply but I really don’t wanna shoot in the dark and find out it’s more expensive than that
 
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I wanna go get a new power supply but I really don’t wanna shoot in the dark and find out it’s more expensive than that
It could be more than one issue at play. As an example the power supply, and a dirty DIMM slot (dust/hair in slot.) This is why a pre-built makes sense for some people. Im not suggesting you're incapable of figuring the issue out.
 
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It could be more than one issue at play. As an example the power supply, and a dirty DIMM slot (dust/hair in slot.) This is why a pre-built makes sense for some people. Im not suggesting you're incapable of figuring the issue out.
Yeah, when things get messy it's often multiple issues clouding the issue and making symptoms overlap to look like something else entirely.

If any diagnosis turns into a head-scratcher, the best thing to do is unplug everything and start from the beginning with the minimum bootable system. That means PSU, CPU, one DIMM (and a GPU if you don't have an IGP to POST with).

If it doesn't POST even with minimum components, I take the motherboard out of the case and retest before blaming one of the components because a misaligned case can flex a board too far, or cause a ground short somewhere. Even a shorted pin in a damage USB port can prevent a machine from POSTing. Only blame and eliminate a component if you've:
  1. proved that another component works perfectly in its place
  2. tested it not working in a minimum build, such as ghetto test bench (motherboard sitting on some cardboard, for example)
 

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Just to further a point about "cheap" power supplies...


the TL;DW is that a company bought a bunch of 350w units and then proceeded to relabel and sell them on as 600-650w units. GameMax as far as i can see do decent to OK power supplies (the video explains why)

But this video is also a big example of why people need to be weary not just of price but of where or who they are buying power supplies from. There are some things that i would buy from sites like ebay or aliexpress but I wouldnt even bother looking at those sites if i was after something mission critical like a power supply.

Yes a reputable retailer will cost you more money at times but you get two things with a proper retail purchase. 1. Warranty. 2. Piece of mind.

if a reputable retailer is willing to relabel cheap 350w units as 500 or 600w unit then they are playing a very dangerous game because the moment customers decides to check a serial number or try to RMA it after it blows up and it turns out to be a fake unit. The retailer will be in all sorts of legal trouble not just from customers who bought the rebadged units but the manufacturers too. No retailer worth their salt is going to destroy their reputation like that. They might give you bad customer service and after care support but their parts are always genuine so can RMA directly with the manufacturer if you need to.
 
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