Help OC Ryzen 5 3600

[Zach_01]

Oh maybe because I set in Ryzen master the PBO as OC governor

Could be... RyzenMaster overrides BIOS settings. Keep RyzenMaster on normal mode if you want to explore manual BIOS settings for PBO.

 

[oobymach]

When left on AUTO my cpu vcore starts @ 1.45v and goes up to 4.375ghz peaks on its own, just saying that manual setting of 1.33 is much lower than the automatic setting in my bios. I have run it up manually higher than 1.38v but noticed after a point going higher with speeds and voltage causes decrease in performance in ram speed so I now use 4.3ghz @ 1.33v which seems to provide maximum ram speed and when gaming Doom loads in less than 6 seconds from load screen to in game which I'm happy with.

Higher speeds yielded cpu performance boost at a cost of a lot of heat so wouldn't recommend going beyond 4.3ghz but again I have yet to see any kind of degradation and I did clock and overvolt so high as to trigger windows to bsod/restart on a few occasions when testing p95 for temps and stability.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Looks like most overclocks on Ryzen 3000 ar 4.4ghz at 1.400v -
Lower respectively depending on cooling ability.
4.2ghz is a good clock speed 1.3 - 1.35v - This looks absolutely normal to me.

I don't own a 3000 series chip, but this information is widely available.
Don't take damric's advice here. Zach will lead a good OC for anyone.

 

[WatEagle]

Could be... RyzenMaster overrides BIOS settings. Keep RyzenMaster on normal mode if you want to explore manual BIOS settings for PBO.

Ok, I’ll set it to auto. Ty

 

[Zach_01]

Looks like most overclocks on Ryzen 3000 ar 4.4ghz at 1.400v -
Lower respectively depending on cooling ability.
4.2ghz is a good clock speed 1.3 - 1.35v - This looks absolutely normal to me.

I don't own a 3000 series chip, but this information is widely available.
Don't take damric's advice here. Zach will lead a good OC for anyone.

First, Thanks a lot for the confidence in me and my ways. I really and truely appreciate it!!

Fortunately I'm not the only one in here thinking and practicing same ways.
Yes this kind of info is widely spreaded across the net but I prompt (anyone) to take a look at the screenshot in post#2 of this very thread and witness how this, for many, mildly OC CPU has exceeded all PrecisionBoost and PBO limits while on 4.2GHz and 1.3V.

PPT: 88W -->99W
TDC: 60A -->60.5A
EDC: 90A -->114A
with 75~80C

Silicon FITness controller would never-ever allow that and this tells a lot. Even if I'm going to do circles I will never get tired of saying these things. ZEN2 and 7nm is like night and day when compared to previous ZEN or any other known CPU.
AMD has maxed the crap out of them out of the box and any kind of static OC is either underperforming or exceeding silicon limits for one to see significant gain. Strong and unconventional cooling excluded.
The only way of achieving any gain is within auto PBO settings and/or high cooling/dissipation capacity.

 

[WatEagle]

Your lack of knowledge in ZEN2 aspects is at full demonstration right now, and obviously you didn’t follow every post in this thread. If you had read the posts and states that many wrote here beside me, users that done their homework and know how to observe readings and how to interpret them, you would know that you can’t apply same voltage at given speed like when its on auto boosting at same speed.
1. If a ZEN2 CPU is auto boosting avg at 4.2GHz single core with avg 1.45V you cannot set static 4.2GHz with static 1.45V You will exceed silicon limits.
2. If a ZEN2 CPU is auto boosting avg at 4.05GHz all core with avg 1.38V you cannot set static 4.05GHz with static 1.38V you will exceed silicon limits.
3. and so on...

Of course I'm aware that 3600 is the bottom of the barrel silicon quality (I own one, and not some high binned SKU), and requires the highest voltage of all ZEN2 SKUs to run the same speeds. Thats why it is contrained to such low speeds by default. What we are trying to pass here is that its completely wrong to set static voltage to a given static speed just because you see this value due to auto boosting. Its false practice and lack of knowledge.

Do you even know what the name FIT is? Have you ever heard of silicon FITness controller on ZEN2? The only defence of the CPU against degradation? Do you own and experiment a ZEN2 SKU? Any experience with one? Did you spend hours after hours of testing, observing, asking other ZEN2 users for operating info, reading about and try to understand its core technology and how this thing work and behave?

...or you just looking VIDs and copy the values? Oh this is so experienced practice...

Do you know terms like PPT/TDC/EDC? Once you set ZEN2 to a static OC and voltage the silicon FITness controller is off and no longer regulates silicon stress and cant protect the silicon. I've said it before, but you didnt read it or choose to ignore it or did not understand it. The internal manager of ZEN2 flactuates clock and voltage hundreads of times within a sec to keep performance as high as possible and keeping silicon preservation altogether in conjunction with temperature, avoiding irreversible electromigration... You cant copy or simulate this kind of operation and behaviour with any manual OC ad voltage settings.

I hope the OP and/or any other ZEN2 user will not be drifted by your false states and practices. As far as I'm concerned you can keep your great and exciting "living on the edge overclocking" life and enjoy it.


I'm confused a little...
I see the PPT/TDC/EDC values and percentage and cartainly are not as I suggested...

I suggested...
PPT: 90
TDC: 0
EDC: 70

And these settings must be like...
PPT: 1000
TDC: 115
EDC 168

New screenshot of hwinfo setting in Ryzen Master the default option
In cinebench I get 3576 pt

hwinfo:

 

[Zach_01]

Are you sure you've set PBO manual and the ones we talk about?

If you plug a usb flash drive (FAT32) and press F12 in BIOS you can take a screenshot (BMP format). TPU doesnt accept BMP, you must convert it to another type like PNG (you can with windows paint)

It should be something like this but set PPT: 90 and EDC: 70
This is mine from earlier testing.
Now I'm at PPT: 99, EDC: 63 and Scalar X2(dont touch this for now, leave it auto)

 

[Chrispy_]

Unless I've missed it, nobody has mentioned RAM overclocking yet? It looks like you're running at a fairly pedestrian 3200 CL16 speed. That means there's a 12% wasted clock opportunity on the infinity fabric and I'm guessing that 3200 CL16 is the XMP profile, so there's probably a lot of potential to tighten the RAM timings and reduce latency there too. XMP is designed for Intel IMCs, and usually you can get significant gains by using timings optimised for Ryzen 3000.

For gaming especially, I believe the best performance from a Ryzen 5 is going to be to leave XFR+ and PB enabled on default (stock) settings and allow the CPU and motherboard to do a half-decent job of overclocking for you without raising your voltages, temps, fan noise etc. If you're running all-core workloads like rendering or encodes, then fixed-frequency overclocking still has merits, but for most use cases, allowing the CPU to burst up to 4.2 when necessary but chill out when not under load makes a lot more sense.

The real benefit to Ryzen 3000-series is to crank up the Infinity fabric as high as it'll go. Realistically, you want to be using a cheap DDR4-3600 kit so that you can hit the maximum 1:1 divider speed of 1800MHz.

My stock R5 3600 was about 3-5% faster using 3600 CL16 settings and 1800MHz IF compared to 4.3 all-core using my previous Crucial DDR4-3000 CL17 kit using XMP settings. Ryzen 3000 loves high infinity fabric clocks and tight RAM timings.

If you haven't already, download Thaiphoon burner to identify your RAM module type, then download the 1usmus DRAM calculator and use it to run your RAM at 3600 with the lowest timings possible. Samsung B-die is extremely good for tight timings at 3200-3400MHz, and is usually affordable (Corsair LPX, for example). I have found better 3600 timings from Hynix CJR (sold as Patriot Viper 3600 CL17) which is also usually affordable, decent RAM for Ryzen 3000.

Anyway, once you have your memory type, put it into 1usmus' DRAM Calculator and set BCLK to 100, Frequency to 3600 (regardless of whether it's a 3600 kit or not) and then hit Calculate SAFE and plug all of the values from the 2nd and 3rd columns into your BIOS. If you can boot successfully with those timings, save that profile and try the Calculate FAST timings next.

At the end of the day, low-end Ryzen 3000 is going to top out at about 4.3GHz and there's no point in burning it out and pushing it to the limits and potentially damaging it just to achieve a 3% performance boost. There are bigger gains to be had by simply running the IF and RAM as fast as possible whilst enjoying all the benefits of XFR, PB, and stock (cool, quiet, long-lived) operation. Trust me, an 1800MHz infinity fabric clock is the lowest-hanging fruit for Ryzen 5. Don't even bother trying to manually overclock the CPU until you've set an 1800MHz IF clock, and don't expect miracles from a manual overclock unless your workload is 100% all-core use.

 

[WatEagle]

Unless I've missed it, nobody has mentioned RAM overclocking yet? It looks like you're running at a fairly pedestrian 3200 CL16 speed. That means there's a 12% wasted clock opportunity on the infinity fabric and I'm guessing that 3200 CL16 is the XMP profile, so there's probably a lot of potential to tighten the RAM timings and reduce latency there too. XMP is designed for Intel IMCs, and usually you can get significant gains by using timings optimised for Ryzen 3000.

For gaming especially, I believe the best performance from a Ryzen 5 is going to be to leave XFR+ and PB enabled on default (stock) settings and allow the CPU and motherboard to do a half-decent job of overclocking for you without raising your voltages, temps, fan noise etc. If you're running all-core workloads like rendering or encodes, then fixed-frequency overclocking still has merits, but for most use cases, allowing the CPU to burst up to 4.2 when necessary but chill out when not under load makes a lot more sense.

The real benefit to Ryzen 3000-series is to crank up the Infinity fabric as high as it'll go. Realistically, you want to be using a cheap DDR4-3600 kit so that you can hit the maximum 1:1 divider speed of 1800MHz.

My stock R5 3600 was about 3-5% faster using 3600 CL16 settings and 1800MHz IF compared to 4.3 all-core using my previous Crucial DDR4-3000 CL17 kit using XMP settings. Ryzen 3000 loves high infinity fabric clocks and tight RAM timings.

If you haven't already, download Thaiphoon burner to identify your RAM module type, then download the 1usmus DRAM calculator and use it to run your RAM at 3600 with the lowest timings possible. Samsung B-die is extremely good for tight timings at 3200-3400MHz, and is usually affordable (Corsair LPX, for example). I have found better 3600 timings from Hynix CJR (sold as Patriot Viper 3600 CL17) which is also usually affordable, decent RAM for Ryzen 3000.

Anyway, once you have your memory type, put it into 1usmus' DRAM Calculator and set BCLK to 100, Frequency to 3600 (regardless of whether it's a 3600 kit or not) and then hit Calculate SAFE and plug all of the values from the 2nd and 3rd columns into your BIOS. If you can boot successfully with those timings, save that profile and try the Calculate FAST timings next.

At the end of the day, low-end Ryzen 3000 is going to top out at about 4.3GHz and there's no point in burning it out and pushing it to the limits and potentially damaging it just to achieve a 3% performance boost. There are bigger gains to be had by simply running the IF and RAM as fast as possible whilst enjoying all the benefits of XFR, PB, and stock (cool, quiet, long-lived) operation. Trust me, an 1800MHz infinity fabric clock is the lowest-hanging fruit for Ryzen 5. Don't even bother trying to manually overclock the CPU until you've set an 1800MHz IF clock, and don't expect miracles from a manual overclock unless your workload is 100% all-core use.

Yeah also though this, but if I have to be honest I’m a bit worried about ram oc. I overclocked ram in intel platforms but ryzen is another planet. I had a lot of issues with ram until I changed it with Corsair lpx 3200.

abyway I’ ll try what you told

 

[Chrispy_]

Yeah also though this, but if I have to be honest I’m a bit worried about ram oc. I overclocked ram in intel platforms but ryzen is another planet. I had a lot of issues with ram until I changed it with Corsair lpx 3200.

abyway I’ ll try what you told

Ok if that is Corsair LPX is very likely to be Samsung B-die, so tight 3600 timings should be possible

Other than half an hour of your time, you have nothing to lose! Just make sure you are on on the latest BIOS and give the calculated timings a spin. There's a stability test in the download package for the calculator too, so you don't have to worry about a RAM overclock causing issues.

The main thing to remember is that XMP timings are terrible for Ryzen. They're quite literally optimisations for the wrong hardware. If you run the "SAFE" timings from the Ryzen calculator, it is likely to be not only faster than XMP but also more stable, as a Ryzen memory controller is not the same as an Intel memory controller and running Intel timings on AMD hardware doesn't always work - that's probably why you've had issues with other RAM before the Corsair LPX.

I don't have the wealth of experience with Ryzen that I have with Intel, but in the two dozen or so Zen, Zen+ and Threadripper builds I've done, a lot of XMP kits fail on first boot and only become usable after the Motherboard has done some memory training cycles. When you look into the detailed timings after successful memory training, you'll find that the training resulted in looser timings just to get the RAM stable at the XMP-rated frequency. I only have a couple of 3000-series under my belt at the moment, but since one of them is my personal rig it's had as much tweaking and testing as I can get my hands on, since a lot of hardware passes through my hands as part of my day job

Ryzen Calculator is just XMP settings for AMD instead of Intel. That's how I see it at least and I'd recommend everyone try it at least in SAFE settings as a big improvement over the very limited XMP timing information stored on the RAM's SPD.

 

[WatEagle]

Ok if that is Corsair LPX is very likely to be Samsung B-die, so tight 3600 timings should be possible

Other than half an hour of your time, you have nothing to lose! Just make sure you are on on the latest BIOS and give the calculated timings a spin. There's a stability test in the download package for the calculator too, so you don't have to worry about a RAM overclock causing issues.

that’s fantastic, as I finish studying I’ll try and post results

 

[Durvelle27]

Are you sure you've set PBO manual and the ones we talk about?

If you plug a usb flash drive (FAT32) and press F12 in BIOS you can take a screenshot (BMP format). TPU doesnt accept BMP, you must convert it to another type like PNG (you can with windows paint)

It should be something like this but set PPT: 90 and EDC: 70
This is mine from earlier testing.
Now I'm at PPT: 99, EDC: 63 and Scalar X2(dont touch this for now, leave it auto)

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Don't mean to thread jump but does this look ok as i've never used PBO

 

[Zach_01]

Unless I've missed it, nobody has mentioned RAM overclocking yet? It looks like you're running at a fairly pedestrian 3200 CL16 speed. That means there's a 12% wasted clock opportunity on the infinity fabric and I'm guessing that 3200 CL16 is the XMP profile, so there's probably a lot of potential to tighten the RAM timings and reduce latency there too. XMP is designed for Intel IMCs, and usually you can get significant gains by using timings optimised for Ryzen 3000.

For gaming especially, I believe the best performance from a Ryzen 5 is going to be to leave XFR+ and PB enabled on default (stock) settings and allow the CPU and motherboard to do a half-decent job of overclocking for you without raising your voltages, temps, fan noise etc. If you're running all-core workloads like rendering or encodes, then fixed-frequency overclocking still has merits, but for most use cases, allowing the CPU to burst up to 4.2 when necessary but chill out when not under load makes a lot more sense.

The real benefit to Ryzen 3000-series is to crank up the Infinity fabric as high as it'll go. Realistically, you want to be using a cheap DDR4-3600 kit so that you can hit the maximum 1:1 divider speed of 1800MHz.

My stock R5 3600 was about 3-5% faster using 3600 CL16 settings and 1800MHz IF compared to 4.3 all-core using my previous Crucial DDR4-3000 CL17 kit using XMP settings. Ryzen 3000 loves high infinity fabric clocks and tight RAM timings.

If you haven't already, download Thaiphoon burner to identify your RAM module type, then download the 1usmus DRAM calculator and use it to run your RAM at 3600 with the lowest timings possible. Samsung B-die is extremely good for tight timings at 3200-3400MHz, and is usually affordable (Corsair LPX, for example). I have found better 3600 timings from Hynix CJR (sold as Patriot Viper 3600 CL17) which is also usually affordable, decent RAM for Ryzen 3000.

Anyway, once you have your memory type, put it into 1usmus' DRAM Calculator and set BCLK to 100, Frequency to 3600 (regardless of whether it's a 3600 kit or not) and then hit Calculate SAFE and plug all of the values from the 2nd and 3rd columns into your BIOS. If you can boot successfully with those timings, save that profile and try the Calculate FAST timings next.

At the end of the day, low-end Ryzen 3000 is going to top out at about 4.3GHz and there's no point in burning it out and pushing it to the limits and potentially damaging it just to achieve a 3% performance boost. There are bigger gains to be had by simply running the IF and RAM as fast as possible whilst enjoying all the benefits of XFR, PB, and stock (cool, quiet, long-lived) operation. Trust me, an 1800MHz infinity fabric clock is the lowest-hanging fruit for Ryzen 5. Don't even bother trying to manually overclock the CPU until you've set an 1800MHz IF clock, and don't expect miracles from a manual overclock unless your workload is 100% all-core use.

You are right about Ram OC but we cant mix everything into one... The OP asked for CPU OC we saw some flaws in his attempt and how he was exceeding some critical limits and now he is taking a different approach to it.
RAM was going to be next... but now... it will be a mixed mess as we wanted the results as pure as possible, without any other interfearing, like RAM OC... What can I say...

 

[WatEagle]

Are you sure you've set PBO manual and the ones we talk about?

If you plug a usb flash drive (FAT32) and press F12 in BIOS you can take a screenshot (BMP format). TPU doesnt accept BMP, you must convert it to another type like PNG (you can with windows paint)

It should be something like this but set PPT: 90 and EDC: 70
This is mine from earlier testing.
Now I'm at PPT: 99, EDC: 63 and Scalar X2(dont touch this for now, leave it auto)

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here it is the snapshot from the bios

 

[Zach_01]

This is in the "AMD Overclocking" section right?
There must be a "AMD CBS" section that contains "XFR Enhancement" and in that a "PBO" menu.

Leave these in pic as is and go into AMD CBS and do the same. The menu would be like the shot I posted above, without the "clock override" (MHz).
The board could prefer the "AMD CBS" over the "AMD Overclocking"

On my board works as intended on whatever section I made the change while the other is on auto.

 

[Chrispy_]

You are right about Ram OC but we cant mix everything into one... The OP asked for CPU OC we saw some flaws in his attempt and how he was exceeding some critical limits and now he is taking a different approach to it.
RAM was going to be next... but now... it will be a mixed mess as we wanted the results as pure as possible, without any other interfearing, like RAM OC... What can I say...

Agreed, this will muddy the waters slightly but overclocking the RAM is as important as overclocking the CPU. IMO it's pointless to do one and not the other, and for most use-cases, Precision Boost is good enough that a manual overclock isn't really going to be much better. Certainly with the OP's 3200 CL16 XMP settings there's a huge amount of untapped performance left on the table - possibly more than any CPU overclock can deliver for some workloads (like gaming).

The only instance where I (personally - this is a subjective opinion, not objective fact) believe manual overclocks to be worthwhile are when you need an all-core overclock for a machine that will be doing heavily multithreaded workloads most or all of the time.

I'm not strictly speaking about an overclock either; Running the Infinity fabric at 1800MHz is the best performance it'll do whilst staying in spec, and running Ryzen-specific memory timings instead of Intel-specific memory timings is a no-brainer on Ryzen hardware.

I'm not a Ryzen 3000 overclocking veteran yet, by any means, but in order of importance, I would say that system optimisation should be:

1. Set your RAM to 3600MHz to get the Infinity Fabric running at it's maximum 1:1 speed
2. Get your RAM timings tightened, because XMP profiles are junk for Ryzen and you'll need to redo timings anyway if your ram wasn't initially a 3600 kit.
3. Manual CPU frequency overclock.

 

[WatEagle]

This is in the "AMD Overclocking" section right?
There must be a "AMD CBS" section that contains "XFR Enhancement" and in that a "PBO" menu.

Leave these in pic as is and go into AMD CBS and do the same. The menu would be like the shot I posted above, without the "clock override" (MHz).
The board could prefer the "AMD CBS" over the "AMD Overclocking"

On my board works as intended on whatever section I made the change while the other is on auto.

Yes it is AMD oc Section.
For XFR section I also used the search function in the bios, but I couldn't find it.
I'll search again but not sure if there is in my bios

Agreed, this will muddy the waters slightly but overclocking the RAM is as important as overclocking the CPU. IMO it's pointless to do one and not the other, and for most use-cases, Precision Boost is good enough that a manual overclock isn't really going to be much better. The only instance where I (personally - this is a subjective opinion, not objective fact) believe manual overclocks to be worthwhile are when you need an all-core overclock for a machine that will be doing heavily multithreaded workloads most or all of the time.

I'm not strictly speaking about an overclock either; Running the Infinity fabric at 1800MHz is the best performance it'll do whilst staying in spec, and running Ryzen-specific memory timings instead of Intel-specific memory timings is a no-brainer on Ryzen hardware.

I'm not a Ryzen 3000 overclocking veteran yet, by any means, but in order of importance, I would say that system optimisation should be:

1. Set your RAM to 3600MHz to get the Infinity Fabric running at it's maximum 1:1 speed
2. Get your RAM timings tightened, because XMP profiles are junk for Ryzen and you'll need to redo timings anyway if your ram wasn't initially a 3600 kit.
3. Manual CPU frequency overclock.

Yeah after I test a stable oc I'll also oc ram. I've used 1usmus Ram calculator yet, but first I wanna fine tune the cpu. Then i'll try Ram with suggested settings

 

[Zach_01]

Yes it is AMD oc Section.
For XFR section I also used the search function in the bios, but I couldn't find it.
I'll search again but not sure if there is in my bios

Yeah after I test a stable oc I'll also oc ram. I've used 1usmus Ram calculator yet, but first I wanna fine tune the cpu. Then i'll try Ram with suggested settings

99.9% there is... Did you look for AMD CBS?

Agreed, this will muddy the waters slightly but overclocking the RAM is as important as overclocking the CPU. IMO it's pointless to do one and not the other, and for most use-cases, Precision Boost is good enough that a manual overclock isn't really going to be much better. Certainly with the OP's 3200 CL16 XMP settings there's a huge amount of untapped performance left on the table - possibly more than any CPU overclock can deliver for some workloads (like gaming).

The only instance where I (personally - this is a subjective opinion, not objective fact) believe manual overclocks to be worthwhile are when you need an all-core overclock for a machine that will be doing heavily multithreaded workloads most or all of the time.

I'm not strictly speaking about an overclock either; Running the Infinity fabric at 1800MHz is the best performance it'll do whilst staying in spec, and running Ryzen-specific memory timings instead of Intel-specific memory timings is a no-brainer on Ryzen hardware.

I'm not a Ryzen 3000 overclocking veteran yet, by any means, but in order of importance, I would say that system optimisation should be:

1. Set your RAM to 3600MHz to get the Infinity Fabric running at it's maximum 1:1 speed
2. Get your RAM timings tightened, because XMP profiles are junk for Ryzen and you'll need to redo timings anyway if your ram wasn't initially a 3600 kit.
3. Manual CPU frequency overclock.

But I never said not to mess with RAM OC. I know what the ZEN2 can do with bumping up the RAM and InfinityFabric from 1600 up to 1900MHz... My ram is a 1733MHz and test it all the way up to 1900MHz. and settled to 1800MHz for rock solid usage. Look my profile system specs.
And we are not trying to static OC his CPU. Just fine tune PB and PBO. You may interested by this too if you had follow this thread from early point.

 

[Durvelle27]

This is in the "AMD Overclocking" section right?
There must be a "AMD CBS" section that contains "XFR Enhancement" and in that a "PBO" menu.

Leave these in pic as is and go into AMD CBS and do the same. The menu would be like the shot I posted above, without the "clock override" (MHz).
The board could prefer the "AMD CBS" over the "AMD Overclocking"

On my board works as intended on whatever section I made the change while the other is on auto.

So don't change XFR menu only AMD overclock menu

 

[WatEagle]

99.9% there is... Did you look for AMD CBS?

I searched only XFR, now when I finish work with pc i'll search again

 

[Chrispy_]

And we are not trying to static OC his CPU. Just fine tune PB and PBO. You may interested by this too if you had follow this thread from early point.

Yeah, I gathered that from the PBO BIOS screenshots.

From what he's showing (Manaul 90W PPT and 70A limit) that should be 95% of the way there. Problem could be old AGESA/BIOS - he's using the shaky release BIOS that was the first one that board ever shipped with. He doesn't even have the kind-of-mandatory AGESA 1.0.0.3AB patches for the 3000 series launch, let alone 1.0.0.3ABBA that sorted out most of the PBO and clocking problems.

Start with a working BIOS, then worry about the overclock

 

[Zach_01]

Yeah, I gathered that from the PBO BIOS screenshots.

From what he's showing (Manaul 90W PPT and 70A limit) that should be 95% of the way there. Problem could be old AGESA/BIOS - he's using the shaky release BIOS that was the first one that board ever shipped with. He doesn't even have the kind-of-mandatory AGESA 1.0.0.3AB patches for the 3000 series launch, let alone 1.0.0.3ABBA that sorted out most of the PBO and clocking problems.

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Start with a working BIOS, then worry about the overclock

That is July 11th or November 7th?
I believe .350 is v35 and its the latest

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[WatEagle]

Yeah, I gathered that from the PBO BIOS screenshots.

From what he's showing (Manaul 90W PPT and 70A limit) that should be 95% of the way there. Problem could be old AGESA/BIOS - he's using the shaky release BIOS that was the first one that board ever shipped with. He doesn't even have the kind-of-mandatory AGESA 1.0.0.3AB patches for the 3000 series launch, let alone 1.0.0.3ABBA that sorted out most of the PBO and clocking problems.

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Start with a working BIOS, then worry about the overclock

I updated it as I finished building the system.
But i think it's the latest according to msi support page

 

[damric]

Title of thread "help ryzen oc" not "help run at frequencies possible on a320 board"

We won't be seeing any hwbot points in this thread, but certainly good goal for a walmart pc

But don't be mad at me since I am probably the only ETN here (if you know what that is then you know where you are on the knowledge food chain).

 

[WatEagle]

I searched only XFR, now when I finish work with pc i'll search again

I searched for CBS and xfr and I couldn't find any option. I used also the search by world option but nope