help with a new PC ( 800$ )

[JrRacinFan]

What if you go a midrange video card (9600GSO/HD3870/9600GT) for now and when you get the 22" switch it out with a new video card?

Go with the X3 720BE. Cuts cost on the cpu part and gets you a good motherboard and power supply, which are the prime components of a build.

 

[in2ition]

gaming
I don't want a DX 11 card to be limited by my CPU

 

[Fatal1ty39]

what do you think of this build you change the cpu to a triple core or to a quad core

 

[Darren]

x3 720 ( 30$ under my cash )
E8400 ( 25$ under my cash )
x4 810 ( 5$ under my cash )

Small difference between the 720 and 810. You are not going to starve because of $25? The 810 will give you longevity.

You haven't said what the purpose of the rig is for, encoding, gaming, browsing the net?



Edit:

gaming
I don't want a DX 11 card to be limited by my CPU

Direct X 11 does not exist. These are powerful CPUs, and none of them will limit a graphics card. If gaming is your sole intention the 720 BE would be the better option over the 810 because of the small financial saving, the 720 BE tends to perform slightly better in games but only at an insignificant level.

X3 720 BE
- faster at games today
- $25 cheaper
- easier overclocker

X4 810
- slightly slower at games today, but faster at games tomorrow (extra core)
- advantage in encoding, multitasking, compression, etc
- last longer


Edit 2:


Personally if it was me, I'd downgrade to DDR2 PC8500 as a means of cutting costs. I would also downgrade to a motherboard with an Nforce 8200/8300 or 780 chipset as they will still give good overclocks whilst further reducing costs.

That should shave off around $40-100 which can be directed into a much better graphics card or processor and hence give you a better all round gaming performance.

 

[JrRacinFan]

what do you think of this build

Ditch DDR3, go DDR2 with the Asus 770. Ditch the 550 and go 720BE.

@in2ition

You won't be.

 

[in2ition]

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=A780GXH/128M
this is 70$
but a quad on this board will die )
the vrm is low
a nice gigabyte board with 8+2 vrm for OC is 125$


this is 90$
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en-us/t-series/introduction.php?S_ID=379

I'm going with 4GB ddr2 800 for 60$

 

[Fatal1ty39]

i think you should go with am3 mobo so you can upgarde in the futur check the msi 770-C45

http://www.mediadot.ro/placi-de-baza/placa-de-baza--770-c45

 

[Darren]

i think you should go with am3 mobo so you can upgarde in the futur check the msi 770-C45

http://www.mediadot.ro/placi-de-baza/placa-de-baza--770-c45

Apart from DDR3, there is no upgrade incentive to an AM3 motherboard. AM2+ supports the same upgrade paths whilst saving you money.

The msi 770-C45 looks good. I can not say its worth the money but its good.

Edit:

I'm going with 4GB ddr2 800 for 60$

How much is DDR2 PC 8500 (1066 MHz), because in the UK and in the US it costs about the same as DDR2 PC6400 (800 MHz).

 

[in2ition]

15$ expensive than the 800 ones

 

[in2ition]

the Q9400 is very cheap now, lol
should I go with x3 720 + cooler or Q9400 stock? the same price

 

[joshiers8605]

i would do the 720 with cooler

 

[Darren]

i would do the 720 with cooler

Not sure about that?

the Q9400 is very cheap now, lol
should I go with x3 720 + cooler or Q9400 stock? the same price

I'm AMD guy, and I'm going to tell you straight. The Q9400 is faster than the 720 BE.

In games the 720 BE will be only slightly faster at the moment, but the Q9400 has an extra core so in a year or two games will favour the Q9400. In everything else other than games the Q9400 would be superior at the moment and in the future. The Q9400 would get a better all round experience, typically I'd go the AMD route but if prices are equal in your country then get the superior processor.

Generally speaking socket 775 motherboards costs more than AM2+ motherboards you should also take this into consideration too, however if they are also equal in price in your country, go the 775 route.

If you want an AMD Q9400 all round alternative you'll have to step up to a minimum of the Phenom II X4 810.

 

[DreamSeller]

Not sure about that?



I'm AMD guy, and I'm going to tell you straight. The Q9400 is faster than the 720 BE.

In games the 720 BE will be only slightly faster at the moment, but the Q9400 has an extra core so in a year or two games will favour the Q9400. In everything else other than games the Q9400 would be superior at the moment and in the future. The Q9400 would get a better all round experience, typically I'd go the AMD route but if prices are equal in your country then get the superior processor.

Generally speaking socket 775 motherboards costs more than AM2+ motherboards you should also take this into consideration too, however if they are also equal in price in your country, go the 775 route.

If you want an AMD Q9400 all round alternative you'll have to step up to a minimum of the Phenom II X4 810.

so you wanna say that extra core is making it slower ?

 

[Darren]

so you wanna say that extra core is making it slower ?

You obviously didn't read or understand what I wrote

To be honest I do not understand your question so I can not attempt to answer it.

 

[DreamSeller]

You obviously didn't read or understand what I wrote

right i had a long day so im sleepy lol
i thought you where saying the 720be is faster now then the q9400 and later when games will need 4 cores the q9400 will be faster

 

[DreamSeller]

heres how i would spent the money
get a x4 810 clock it slightly for now and higher then when youll feel it bottlenecks your dx11 card
get a good (am3/ddr3) 790fx board and find some cheap card for your 1280* for example a 9600gso or even a 4670 get a good psu and case fans etc... and once you get the money get a new mon and then hd5k's out and you've got a kickass system