Help with high cpu temps. Ryzen 2600x

[ENEMY]

Doesnt matter, do it right the first time.

Get some Arctic MX 4, remove your heatsink, clean thermal compound off heatsink and cpu.

Apply a half a pea size amount of compound to the center slug of the heatsink, mount heatsink correctly.

Watch video carefully.

Is that thermal paste good enough or can I try something else if that´s no available in my countrie?

Remember to twist the heatsink to get it off and not try and pull it straight up. this way you wont pull the processor out of the socket.

I´m not sure I understood what twist means, like you mean rotate to one of the sides before pulling, like clockwork direction per example? Sorry english is not my native language. I understand what twist means but not sure in this particular subject.

My other concern would be if the Vega is dumping a lot of heat into the case it would be going straight into the CPU cooler. Open air vega needs quite a lot of negative pressure to get rid of the exhaust heat when its at full throttle (that said, your Pulse 56 is board limited to 180W at stock (I had one) so it won't be dumping the full load of heat). But you could do with at least 2x 120mm fans on exhaust IMO. This wouldn't usually result in a Temp shutdown, though, since the CPU would throttle heavily to keep itself below TJ.But if you're still having heat issues after remounting the cooler try gaming with the side panel off for a bit. See if it helps~

Ya it kinda makes sense, I have a Sapphire Pulse vega 56 and I think my temps are only this high since I got it. I only have pbo on and i´m getting constant 4249mghz in all cores. The gpu ins undervolted to 1040/1050 mv normally and I dont OC it that much, its like at 1600/1650 depending on what profile I choose.

I guess after I install the new noctua fans I can check better if it´s only a problem of air flow or if it´s the cooler too right? Until then I wont stream and will cheking my temps closely.

Yes I tend to install the 2 140mm noctua redux in front as blowers, and transfer my stock 120mm to the top back as exhaust, guess that will help. DO you think it´s worth to get a new 140mm to exhaust too or the fractal xg2 120mm are good enough?

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Is that thermal paste good enough or can I try something else if that´s no available in my countrie?



I´m not sure I understood what twist means, like you mean rotate to one of the sides before pulling, like clockwork direction per example? Sorry english is not my native language. I understand what twist means but not sure in this particular subject.




Ya it kinda makes sense, I have a Sapphire Pulse vega 56 and I think my temps are only this high since I got it. I only have pbo on and i´m getting constant 4249mghz in all cores. The gpu ins undervolted to 1040/1050 mv normally and I dont OC it that much, its like at 1600/1650 depending on what profile I choose.

I guess after I install the new noctua fans I can check better if it´s only a problem of air flow or if it´s the cooler too right? Until then I wont stream and will cheking my temps closely.

Yes I tend to install the 2 140mm noctua redux in front as blowers, and transfer my stock 120mm to the top back as exhaust, guess that will help. DO you think it´s worth to get a new 140mm to exhaust too or the fractal xg2 120mm are good enough?

Fans aren't going to make a difference, there is something wrong that is heating your cpu to 98c and it's not your gpu. Reseat the cooler before you do anything else and you're waiting for your fans cause you will damage the cpu if you continue to run it at temps like that.

Just to add. Turn off pbo, lower vcore and why are you running offset of 0.1000v? This suggests you are running too high a vcore. Set vcore to auto and see what value that gives you in cpuz and of course do the reseat

 

[eidairaman1]

Is that thermal paste good enough or can I try something else if that´s no available in my countrie?



I´m not sure I understood what twist means, like you mean rotate to one of the sides before pulling, like clockwork direction per example? Sorry english is not my native language. I understand what twist means but not sure in this particular subject.




Ya it kinda makes sense, I have a Sapphire Pulse vega 56 and I think my temps are only this high since I got it. I only have pbo on and i´m getting constant 4249mghz in all cores. The gpu ins undervolted to 1040/1050 mv normally and I dont OC it that much, its like at 1600/1650 depending on what profile I choose.

I guess after I install the new noctua fans I can check better if it´s only a problem of air flow or if it´s the cooler too right? Until then I wont stream and will cheking my temps closely.

Yes I tend to install the 2 140mm noctua redux in front as blowers, and transfer my stock 120mm to the top back as exhaust, guess that will help. DO you think it´s worth to get a new 140mm to exhaust too or the fractal xg2 120mm are good enough?

Just buy it online if not available. Otherwise try this list of suggestions.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/what-the-best-thermal-paste-in-2019.252136/#post-3986349

 

[ENEMY]

I set it to negative off set, doesnt that mean lower voltage? Auto will Just turn it higher or not?

 

[eidairaman1]

I set it to negative off set, doesnt that mean lower voltage? Auto will Just turn it higher or not?

@NdMk2o1o

 

[NdMk2o1o]

I set it to negative off set, doesnt that mean lower voltage? Auto will Just turn it higher or not?

you set it to negative and it will run a higher vcore when not loaded and then drop the vcore 0.1000v (which is too high a value anyway) when you load the CPU, if anything you should set a lower vcore with a + offset so it runs lower until when the CPU is loaded and then it applies the + offset, or at least that is what happens in my case when I use an offset, the - offset is even marked red in the bios on my board when you apply it as opposed to a + offset which is neutral until about +200mv, try setting your vcore to auto and observe what it idles at and hits during load, you should be on auto for no overclock unless the board sets it high which some can but for a stock 2600 x you should probably be at around 1.25v-1.28v give or take. No need for an offset at stock volts as the vcore will lower itself and increase dependant on load anyway.

 

[ENEMY]

you set it to negative and it will run a higher vcore when not loaded and then drop the vcore 0.1000v (which is too high a value anyway) when you load the CPU, if anything you should set a lower vcore with a + offset so it runs lower until when the CPU is loaded and then it applies the + offset, or at least that is what happens in my case when I use an offset, the - offset is even marked red in the bios on my board when you apply it as opposed to a + offset which is neutral until about +200mv, try setting your vcore to auto and observe what it idles at and hits during load, you should be on auto for no overclock unless the board sets it high which some can but for a stock 2600 x you should probably be at around 1.25v-1.28v give or take. No need for an offset at stock volts as the vcore will lower itself and increase dependant on load anyway.

Damm, I tought that by doing this was some kind of undervolting that would allow me to clock higher with less voltages/temps.

I will try in auto and report back, I Just read dont remember where that would be good to pbo

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Damm, I tought that by doing this was some kind of undervolting that would allow me to clock higher with less voltages/temps.

I will try in auto and report back, I Just read dont remember where that would be good to pbo

At least in my case with my motherboard it works as I described, though you're not overclocking so you can set at constant or leave at auto if that's within acceptable range, check CPU-Z at idle, normal use and load to see the changes. Also PBO should shave some degrees if you turn it off, worst case scenario you lose a 100mhz or so

 

[ENEMY]

This is my bio settings. Will try auto after. Wasnt at home

 

[RealNeil]

the strongist benchmarking program ive used is Cinnebench extreme and aida64 stress test both below 72c with watercooling, i have very good airflow in my hafxb which helps.

Vya Domus
we must be all wasting our money on anything else then eh , you carnt beat overkill if it dont impact you wallet too much my AIO cost £50 new "im not saying i agree its overkill" i more put it in the just fine department.

I like using AIO coolers on my CPUs, but I used the stock AMD RGB cooler on my wife's Ryzen-5 1600X running at 4.0GHz. (office machine)
It's staying under 68c for normal use and 77c running benches. We keep the temp in the house at 70f.
The case has good airflow.

The AMD coolers are capable.

 

[ENEMY]

At least in my case with my motherboard it works as I described, though you're not overclocking so you can set at constant or leave at auto if that's within acceptable range, check CPU-Z at idle, normal use and load to see the changes. Also PBO should shave some degrees if you turn it off, worst case scenario you lose a 100mhz or so

This with auto mode in bios. Lower clocks and higher voltage?

 

[xtreemchaos]

RealNeil
i can agree it cools under normal operation but dos your wife game and stream at the same time?, the stress on the CPU is doubled . right i can only say the OP would be better off with a AIO it would improve the cpus muchness and be kinder too. reviews dont mean nothing unless there being made on the same pc theres too many varibles. im done.

 

[Vayra86]

RealNeil
i can agree it cools under normal operation but dos your wife game and stream at the same time?, the stress on the CPU is doubled . right i can only say the OP would be better off with a AIO it would improve the cpus muchness and be kinder too. reviews dont mean nothing unless there being made on the same pc theres too many varibles. im done.

the strongist benchmarking program ive used is Cinnebench extreme and aida64 stress test both below 72c with watercooling, i have very good airflow in my hafxb which helps.

Vya Domus
we must be all wasting our money on anything else then eh , you carnt beat overkill if it dont impact you wallet too much my AIO cost £50 new "im not saying i agree its overkill" i more put it in the just fine department.

How are your spending preferences beneficial to the stability and temps of the OP's CPU? Stop pushing your water agenda, wrong topic. Show results of all those Ryzens under stock air throttling or be quiet.

 

[xtreemchaos]

Vayra86
now stop being nasty,it dos not hurt to be nice "honist" everybodys entitled to there opinion, im not pushing any agenda the OP would be as good getting a good tower air cooler to get better temps. ill ask you do you think a different cooler would give the guy better temps ? if the reply is yes then buy that it makes my arguement valid . as i said im done

 

[Vya Domus]

Hold on, now that I think about it, how do we know the temperature shown isn't the one with the 20c offset ?

This is how it looks for me, Tctl has the offset and Tdie is the actual "true" temperature. I see that in the screenshots posted by OP the temperature readings aren't separate meaning everything could be fine and we wasted our time. I know the 2600X isn't supposed to have an offset but what if it's an error on HWinfo side, try something else that only shows the Tdie reading.

 

[xtreemchaos]

that is a good point, well done for spotting it. i agree that could be the case we could all be barking up the wrong tree ..

 

[NdMk2o1o]

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This with auto mode in bios. Lower clocks and higher voltage?

set a manual vcore I did say that, also run Ryzen master and show us temps

Hold on, now that I think about it, how do we know the temperature shown isn't the one with the 20c offset ?

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This is how it looks for me, Tctl has the offset and Tdie is the actual "true" temperature. I see that in the screenshots posted by OP the temperature readings aren't separate meaning everything could be fine and we wasted our time. I know the 2600X isn't supposed to have an offset but what if it's an error on HWinfo side, try something else that only shows the Tdie reading.

Latest version shows tctl and tdie in the same line for me and there is no offset

 

[ENEMY]

Hold on, now that I think about it, how do we know the temperature shown isn't the one with the 20c offset ?

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This is how it looks for me, Tctl has the offset and Tdie is the actual "true" temperature. I see that in the screenshots posted by OP the temperature readings aren't separate meaning everything could be fine and we wasted our time. I know the 2600X isn't supposed to have an offset but what if it's an error on HWinfo side, try something else that only shows the Tdie reading.

I knew about the offset and I checked in the ryzen master. Temperatures are correct unfortunately.

set a manual vcore I did say that, also run Ryzen master and show us temps

Ok, so based on what you saw in my bios what settings do you recomend I use? Off set mode, - or + ? And what value? Auto increased both idle and load voltages right? Sorry i´m kinda new to this stuff, just want to understand it right how it works and what it does.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

I knew about the offset and I checked in the ryzen master. Temperatures are correct unfortunately.

Try auto of 1.2 and increase if needed also you probably don't need soc at 1.15 try 1.1, your ram voltage is high considering your running at 2933 you should be able to use default 1.35 though this won't affect your cpu speed. Also what temps does ryzen master say you're running, that might be more accurate

 

[ENEMY]

As about the water cooling sugestions, thanks but I dont think that for now I need that much cooling for a 2600x and a vega 56 and my case isn´t very big to that and i´m still confident the wraith cooler is enough for what I do, if not I will consider buying a cooler in the future specially if I Know I can transfer it for a future build. Water cooling look dope tho, one day will probably build one

Btw About thermal paste, my girlfriend step father gave me 2 thermal pastes tubes he used like 4 or 5 years ago, do they have any expire date? I googled it and got different opinions. One is Arctic Silver 5, other is supreme thermal compound from cooler master. If it hasn´t enough quantity to the "pea" can I mix them?

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut (1g) 5.50€

Arctic MX-4 - 4gr 5.31€

Arctic Silver 5 3.5g 7.16€

1g will last for how many applications? Kryonaut looks super expensive.

 

[Durvelle27]

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This with auto mode in bios. Lower clocks and higher voltage?

There’s your problem bud

That Vcore is hitting over 1.4V which is way to high for stock stocking. Your voltage should be under 1.3V no more than 1.35V which is plenty for those clocks

I’d suggest removing the offset and using a set voltage or just leaving it on Auto.

 

[ENEMY]

Try auto of 1.2 and increase if needed also you probably don't need soc at 1.15 try 1.1, your ram voltage is high considering your running at 2933 you should be able to use default 1.35 though this won't affect your cpu speed. Also what temps does ryzen master say you're running, that might be more accurate

My ram is running at 3200 with 16 17 17 30, I used ryzen ram calculator fast preset mode to increase my hynix M memories. Is there anything wrong? I just followed the numbers it gave me and never had any crash related to that I think.

Ryzen master looks to showing the exact same numbers as hwinfo64 at least in "no loading" temps. WIll try ingame just next.

I tried override mode "CPU core voltage" and than manual changed it to 1.2. Pc didnt load windows. Tried until 1.350 pc crashed again at windows load. "CPU NB/SOC voltage to 1.1 worked ok with auto settings in vcore voltage. Should I try to keep increasing it until it works?

There’s your problem bud

That Vcore is hitting over 1.4V which is way to high for stock stocking. Your voltage should be under 1.3V no more than 1.35V which is plenty for those clocks

I’d suggest removing the offset and using a set voltage or just leaving it on Auto.

I don´t get it sorry, I showed some pictures with auto and off set mode. Auto mode showed way higher voltages

 

[Vya Domus]

XFR/PBO, these things up the voltage above stock, it's not abnormal. Use the voltage offset instead of manually setting the voltage.

 

[phanbuey]

76C seems to be ok -- are you still crashing?

 

[ENEMY]

Nah, I just got 82 only playing apex. Imagine if I stream

XFR/PBO, these things up the voltage above stock, it's not abnormal. Use the voltage offset instead of manually setting the voltage.

I was using -0.1000 voltage offset before. Some ppl here say otherwise, cant decide but from what I see in my low knowledge. Until now what I had is what works better and has lower voltages.

Now im using -01000 in offset voltage since override doesnt work at all and reduced nb voltage to 1.10 from 115. Still high temps tho