Help with i7 870 please

[vychytraly]

and do you think that FSB 200, Ram multi 8, and CPU multi 18 (and making it slowly higher) is too much? with 200FSB is there a need of QPI link changes?

 

[JrRacinFan]

Yeah. I think that is asking too much out of that board.

 

[vychytraly]

maybe it worths trying, if it wouldnt work the PC just wouldnt boot... or could get something damaged?

and is adding +100mV to processor on this board too risky? should I maximally add +75mV?

thank you very much for your advices

 

[JrRacinFan]

You can in theory damage something even going an extra 100mhz overclocked. Running past manuf specs can damage anything.

 

[gasolin]

and do you think that FSB 200, Ram multi 8, and CPU multi 18 (and making it slowly higher) is too much? with 200FSB is there a need of QPI link changes?

Lynnfield based CPUs are unique in that they do not have a QPI

http://www.overclockers.com/3-step-guide-overclock-core-i3-i5-i7/

look for Core i7 (Lynnfield – i7 860, 870)

 

[JrRacinFan]

You're full of it. Tell me then what is this?

 

[gasolin]

Not saying it's true, i just just told you what i so, if it's not true just tell me ok. ;-)

I don't know evereything thats why i sometimes ask alot of questions

 

[vychytraly]

is it a coincidence that QPI link frequency is very similar to Uncore clock?

and "You can in theory damage something even going an extra 100mhz overclocked. Running past manuf specs can damage anything. "

does that mean that its worth trying? (FSB 200)

and why shouldnt I put RAM clock over 1600MHz? In Slovakia some pc guys told me that its a random chance... maybe they will be able to run 1800MHz, but could they be damaged?

 

[vychytraly]

today - FSB 165, cpu 3,62 GHz 22 multi, RAMs 1650 MHz 10 multi, seems stable, could I keep on Pushing the FSB up?

I didnt raised the ram or cpu voltage (cpu is still +50 mV and RAMs 1.50V)

I think that these RAMs could live with these or higher clocks or not? Could they be OCed to lets say 1800MHz?

 

[brandonwh64]

today - FSB 165, cpu 3,62 GHz 22 multi, RAMs 1650 MHz 10 multi, seems stable, could I keep on Pushing the FSB up?

I didnt raised the ram or cpu voltage (cpu is still +50 mV and RAMs 1.50V)

I think that these RAMs could live with these or higher clocks or not? Could they be OCed to lets say 1800MHz?

Try 22*182 +75mV and ram at 1.65V

 

[vychytraly]

RAM with 10 multiplier... ok? 1820MHz, I think they are able to live with it

But why 1.65V? I think these are 1.5V version of grey series, it is also written on them, on their stickers.

If you look on the stickers of 1.65V Kingston RAMs you sent on newegg link a few days ago, there is written 1.65V.

So they cant be the same.

I think they could be hurt with 1.65V. Or not? But if the pc will boot with 1.5V 1820MHz RAMs is there any reason to raise the voltage?

Thank you very much for your time

 

[brandonwh64]

RAM with 10 multiplier... ok? 1820MHz, I think they are able to live with it

But why 1.65V? I think these are 1.5V version of grey series, it is also written on them, on their stickers.

If you look on the stickers of 1.65V Kingston RAMs you sent on newegg link a few days ago, there is written 1.65V.

So they cant be the same.

I think they could be hurt with 1.65V. Or not? But if the pc will boot with 1.5V 1820MHz RAMs is there any reason to raise the voltage?

Thank you very much for your time

You are going above the rated speed of the ram so you will need more voltage just as you would for the CPU. 1.65V is the limit for ram on intels new spec

 

[JrRacinFan]

Again you are also over locking uncore and qpi. That extra voltage will help stable everything out. Trying not to sound like a broken record. As of right now with those clocks you mention your technically over locking the board to facilitate higher imc bandwidth.

 

[vychytraly]

CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 182, RAM Multi = 8, CPU Voltage +75 mV, RAM Voltage 1.5V

Windows freezed on the "intro" logo and PC turned off

CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 175, RAM Multi = 8, CPU Voltage +75 mV, RAM Voltage 1.5V

Stable

Next steps -

1. Raise FSB to 182 and put CPU Voltage to +100mV? (Or is there any other way to make it stable?
2. Could I set the RAM Multi to 10? Wont be the 1750MHz too much?

Thank you for your help

 

[vychytraly]

Could adding the voltage to RAMs also help to stable the CPU on 182 FSB?

 

[brandonwh64]

Set ram multi to 10x and try again

 

[vychytraly]

Edit

CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 182, RAM Multi = 8, CPU Voltage +75 mV, RAM Voltage 1.5V

Windows freezed on the "intro" logo and PC turned off

CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 175, RAM Multi = 8, CPU Voltage +75 mV, RAM Voltage 1.5V

Unstable - blue screen

CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 168, RAM Multi = 10, CPU Voltage +50 mV, RAM Voltage 1.5V

Unstable - blue screen

Highest I reached

CPU Multi = 22, FSB = 165, RAM Multi = 10, CPU Voltage +50mV RAM Voltage 1.5V

Stable
Running now

So if the CPU Voltage doesnt make this pc stable what else should I change? Will the RAM Voltage make the PC stable?

 

[brandonwh64]

Looks like you maybe hitting a wall with that lower end motherboard.

 

[vychytraly]

Ok so nothing else will make it more stable?

What is hitting a wall, a CPU power supply? Or this Mobo cant handle higher FSBs?

But thank you very much for your help and time...

 

[brandonwh64]

The motherboard is holding it back now.

 

[vychytraly]

But is there any other way to try? +100mV? Is it too much?

 

[brandonwh64]

But is there any other way to try? +100mV? Is it too much?

Honestly I don't know how much 100+mV is to that board. could be 1.3V could be 1.4V I dunno until its tried and check CPUZ

 

[vychytraly]

Sorry With OCCT CPU Burn test turned on I get max 1,19 CPU Vcore

(In BIOS I have +50mV now)

So if I count right +100mV should throw max CPU Vcore to 1,69... Is it acceptable, or worth trying?

 

[JrRacinFan]

@Brandon

Between 1.25-1.28v

 

[gasolin]

Std Asrock oc settings (choose 3.6ghz) 180x 20 and about 1.235 volt no turbo boost

Hope that vil give you a clue to how much vcore you need (going for 4.0-4.5 ghz)

Havn't read all the replays but what's best no turbo boost or turbo boost on?

QPI Link just about 3230mhz