High FPS but games feel choppy

[franc1al]

Hello guys!
I got a new PC and a new monitor 2 months ago for gaming and lately I have been experiencing issues when playing games like CS:GO, Fortnite, Forza Horizon, GTA V etc. FPS for example on CS:GO medium settings is around 200-250 and when I play my game feels choppy like Im playing on 60hz or low fps meanwhile my monitor is 144hz and FPS is high.
My PC and monitor specs:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3500X 3.6Ghz (4.1 ghz turbo) 6 core
GPU: PNY Nvidia GTX 1650 4GB GDDR6
RAM: 16GB DDR4 3000mhz OC
SSD: 250GB
HDD: 1TB
Monitor: MSI G241 FreeSync 1ms 144hz
PSU: mars gaming mpb 650w 80+ bronze

I have tried changing settings, turning vSync on and off but still nothing helps. Im sad about this because Im playing even on low settings for example CSGO and still game feels like Im playing on 60hz. I have set my monitor settings on 144 hz.

 

[dcGColts]

Could be your ram isn't actually running at 3000mhz and is 2133mhz double check its running at proper speed. Use geforce experience performance overlay. It will tell your 99% fps most likely this is very low. You should also be aiming for locked 147fps if you don't have gsync comp support and 141fps locked if you do. You may just need to use DDU in safe mode for a clean driver install. With that setup your likely going to get better experience in most games using almost max settings lowering the settings is only going to put more load on CPU and RAM.

 

[franc1al]

Could be your ram isn't actually running at 3000mhz and is 2133mhz double check its running at proper speed. Use geforce experience performance overlay. It will tell your 99% fps most likely this is very low. You should also be aiming for locked 147fps if you don't have gsync comp support and 141fps locked if you do. You may just need to use DDU in safe mode for a clean driver install. With that setup your likely going to get better experience in most games using almost max settings lowering the settings is only going to put more load on CPU and RAM.

Hello, thank you for your reply. I checked RAM speed on task manager and it says 3000mhz. So I dont think that is the problem. I dont lock my FPS on CS GO, but I lock it on fortnite. 144 fps. and I still have the problem. I have tried to clean install, actually I made a whole windows clean install and still the problem persists. I know that with this setup I shouldn't bother playing on High settings with most games but even on low every game is unplayable, its getting annoying. Anyone who has any previous experiences and see this thread please reply. I need help with this really

 

[Chomiq]

VSYNC off, gsync compatible on in driver, freesync on in monitor settings, limit your fps in driver to 141.

 

[Space Lynx]

Hello guys!
I got a new PC and a new monitor 2 months ago for gaming and lately I have been experiencing issues when playing games like CS:GO, Fortnite, Forza Horizon, GTA V etc. FPS for example on CS:GO medium settings is around 200-250 and when I play my game feels choppy like Im playing on 60hz or low fps meanwhile my monitor is 144hz and FPS is high.
My PC and monitor specs:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3500X 3.6Ghz (4.1 ghz turbo) 6 core
GPU: PNY Nvidia GTX 1650 4GB GDDR6
RAM: 16GB DDR4 3000mhz OC
SSD: 250GB
HDD: 1TB
Monitor: MSI G241 FreeSync 1ms 144hz

I have tried changing settings, turning vSync on and off but still nothing helps. Im sad about this because Im playing even on low settings for example CSGO and still game feels like Im playing on 60hz. I have set my monitor settings on 144 hz.

did you change everything to performance mode? default power mode in Windows 10 is called "balanced" and its crap. make it high performance mode. and same with nvidia drivers, optimized to high performance mode. thats what i do anyway.

 

[franc1al]

VSYNC off, gsync compatible on in driver, freesync on in monitor settings, limit your fps in driver to 141.

Thanks for your reply, I have tried these, same problem persists.

did you change everything to performance mode? default power mode in Windows 10 is called "balanced" and its crap. make it high performance mode. and same with nvidia drivers, optimized to high performance mode. thats what i do anyway.

I have it on high performance mode, I dont think thats the problem.

 

[Space Lynx]

i think your drivers just didn't install right.

do a clean install of chipset and graphics drivers, rebooting once after each one is installed. so 2 total reboots.

(when asked during driver install, select factory reset during the install process)

 

[Xzibit]

Is your mouse at max polling rate ?

 

[evernessince]

Don't forget to add your power supply to the spec list, that's very important.

Have you tried using something like MSI afterburner to record frame data? You should be able to see the impact to 1% and 0.1% lows.

 

[franc1al]

i think your drivers just didn't install right.

do a clean install of chipset and graphics drivers, rebooting once after each one is installed. so 2 total reboots.

(when asked during driver install, select factory reset during the install process)

I have done this already, but I will try once more.

Is your mouse at max polling rate ?

How can I do this? I have a Reddragon gaming mouse

Don't forget to add your power supply to the spec list, that's very important.

Have you tried using something like MSI afterburner to record frame data? You should be able to see the impact to 1% and 0.1% lows.

Power supply is mars gaming mpb 650w 80+ bronze and no I havent tried recording frame data. I will try it. How does it output the frame data?

 

[joemama]

You've gotta figure out what you really mean by choppy first, is the FPS dropping? If not it could be the network, monitor or even cable problem.

 

[Xzibit]

How can I do this? I have a Reddragon gaming mouse

Not familiar with that or which model you have. If you have a mouse that can switch polling rate and for some reason you have it too low it will feel like the screen is stuttering no matter what you do.

I have a 1440p 165hz monitor with a Logitech G Pro wireless if I lower the polling rate to 500hz or lower it starts to feel choppy.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Your power supply is a terrible one. 650w for under £30.... I doubt it's a true 650 but you're lucky it hasnt exploded yet because youre actually running quite a lower powered system. Would highly recommend you replace it with something better

 

[franc1al]

Your power supply is a terrible one. 650w for under £30.... I doubt it's a true 650 but you're lucky it hasnt exploded yet because youre actually running quite a lower powered system. Would highly recommend you replace it with something better

So you think the PSU is the problem? That's what I've been wondering lately, because the PC didnt have this problem in the beginning, and I dont think the problem is software related, so hardware must be

You've gotta figure out what you really mean by choppy first, is the FPS dropping? If not it could be the network, monitor or even cable problem.

Not a network problem, my ping is 20-30. and the fps doesnt drop for example in fortnite it stays 144. I have tried with another monitor and with another DP cable, problem persists.

Not familiar with that or which model you have. If you have a mouse that can switch polling rate and for some reason you have it too low it will feel like the screen is stuttering no matter what you do.

I have a 1440p 165hz monitor with a Logitech G Pro wireless if I lower the polling rate to 500hz or lower it starts to feel choppy.

I have tried the mouse with my laptop and it performs well, so either the mouse is not the problem.

 

[Xzibit]

I have tried the mouse with my laptop and it performs well, so either the mouse is not the problem.

Good to know as long as your laptop screen is the same 144hz as your monitor. Some of those Reddragon gaming mouse say they default to 500hz

Polling Rate: Up to 1000 Hz; switchable: 125HZ/250HZ/500HZ/1000HZ (Default 500HZ)

 

[nguyen]

Could be monitor-related;
Go to the OSD (on screen display) via push button on your monitor, check if refresh is set to 144hz, use higher overdrive setting like Fast or Fastest.
Then go to Nvidia CP --> Change Resolution to check if resolution and refresh rate are set correctly

 

[franc1al]

Could be monitor-related;
Go to the OSD (on screen display) via push button on your monitor, check if refresh is set to 144hz, use higher overdrive setting like Fast or Fastest.
Then go to Nvidia CP --> Change Resolution to check if resolution and refresh rate are set correctly
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Yeah I have it on 144hz checked both on monitor and nvidia. Also I have it on fastest

 

[nguyen]

Yeah I have it on 144hz checked both on monitor and nvidia. Also I have it on fastest

Check DPC latency with LatencyMon
Incorrect drivers that MS automatically installs can sometimes cause high DPC Latency, download and install drivers manually for: Chipset, onboard sound, bluetooth, etc...look into the Device Manager if you have any Exclamation Mark.

 

[Jack1n]

Try disabling hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling in Windows.

 

[franc1al]

Check DPC latency with LatencyMon
Incorrect drivers that MS automatically installs can sometimes cause high DPC Latency, download and install drivers manually for: Chipset, onboard sound, bluetooth, etc...look into the Device Manager if you have any Exclamation Mark.

Try disabling hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling in Windows.

I have tried with both ON and OFF

Check DPC latency with LatencyMon
Incorrect drivers that MS automatically installs can sometimes cause high DPC Latency, download and install drivers manually for: Chipset, onboard sound, bluetooth, etc...look into the Device Manager if you have any Exclamation Mark.

results changed now... what does this mean?

 

[nguyen]

results changed now... what does this mean?

Have you changed the pagefiles setting? it's best to disable the pagefile on C: Drive and set a pagefile of 16000-16000 on a different harddisk drive (drive that locate on your HDD perhaps)
Go to Start and type view Advanced System Settings --> click the "Settings..." in the Performance tab --> Advanced --> Virtual memory --> Change... --> untick the "Automatically manage...." option and set No paging file on the C: drive

Then set custom size on other harddisk drive like this, restart PC when you finish. Open LatencyMon, start recording and play CSGO to see if anything improve.

 

[oldwalltree]

Hopefully you are playing in fullscreen and not windowed or windowed fullscreen.

 

[franc1al]

Hopefully you are playing in fullscreen and not windowed or windowed fullscreen.

Im playing on fullscreen

 

[HD64G]

Maybe the power plan is on the low power setting? I would test with the performance profile.

 

[evernessince]

Power supply is mars gaming mpb 650w 80+ bronze and no I havent tried recording frame data. I will try it. How does it output the frame data?

How to Benchmark Games Using MSI Afterburner?

If you have recently bought a gaming PC, or you are an old PC gamer, the chances of you experiencing in-game stuttering are pretty high. Your game either

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Just a heads up, that's actually a 600w PSU. It's one of those low quality power supplies that lists a number higher then it can actually deliver.