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synaesthesia - welcome here then! You will find many interesting informations there ;) But not at all optimistic, tough.


ste2425 -
how exactly do you avoide this apeening, them 'poping'?
Easy. Use ONLY hardware with qualite not fake caps, and do not let them overheat.
The catch - you have to go cap by cap and you have to be able to spot/replace fakes. No-one can do it, as they come with more and more fakes each day.
So I recap my HW and that it is. It works :)


Mussels -
PC died eventually, a horrible fiery death... but hey, it took a while to get there.
Pic by any chance? :eek:


lemonadesoda -
Only roman catholic caps will pope. If you see any other caps poping, then they're faking it.
:laugh: ...better avoid this politic jokes there, it might lead where no-one want to be... :slap:

top caps from popping is to UNDERCLOCK your PC, and reduce CPU voltage. That gives each electronic a lot more headroom and will wear out/fail much less.
This will NOT stop them. It can only slow the death, and not by very much anyway. There are already posted examples with bulging caps that come on right from the store hardware. I think you get the message... Of course old bad caps even not used die also.
Some even explode when used... happen to me. It was LOUD. I lost my hearing for some time...
Do NOT try it at home. If you see bulging cap, power off the machine now and never start it, till replaced. You can seriously hurt your ears or get shoot my the can flying towards you at high speed.
If cap can can punch thru a PCB or ceiling, it can punch you hard too. In eye it might be very well fatal.


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Its good that they had the breakable vents.... imagine the vents didnt exist :twitch:
Sure thing. When these fake polymers explode, then the can punch itself into a ceiling... so we already know what this is capable off... Remember that it is the hydrogen that power the explosion and the same stuff fly Space Shuttle to orbit... or to death as Challenger did.

Trodas is it true that solid polymer caps also come in the old-style aluminium cans?
False. Never ever.
Polymers have own casing, easily to distinguish. Some old Fujitsu polymers are just looking like a yellow elyte cap, even with the perforation witch cap of THIS size always have.

However todays are the polymers made as sleevless ventless caps that are easy to spot on. Of course you can't trust not established brands, as with elytes.
Just check the Samxon URL for example there: http://capsmod.net/caps/
 
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very informative :D but how exactly do you replace them? which type of caps are they called? do u get?
 
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They all have the ratings your need to look out for, typically volts (obvious, v) and micro-farads, µF.
Replacing like for like is the safest way but I'm just starting to look at replacing with higher value caps, not something I'll advise on yet as I'm still learning my way around it :)
 
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a right ok :D wat would be the benifits of replacing with higher caps? would it makes your pc faster? or allow for higher speeds if overclocking etc? This sorta stuf really intregues me :p
 

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a right ok :D wat would be the benifits of replacing with higher caps? would it makes your pc faster? or allow for higher speeds if overclocking etc? This sorta stuf really intregues me :p
no it'd simply stop them exploding and killing the PC.
 
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wat would be the benifits of replacing with higher caps? would it makes your pc faster? or allow for higher speeds if overclocking etc? This sorta stuf really intregues me :p
Simple. Long lifetime (15 years guaranted+++), a slightly faster PC (about 1sec on 49sec SuperPi 1M run) and of course notably higher overclocking ;)

Only, of course, if you do a good job and use a good caps with notably better specs. Eg. Vcore Samxon GC/GA, all important caps GC/rest GD/GK... ;)
Same goes for Rubycon MCZ (like GC) and MBZ (like GD), however they have no match against GA :D Only Nichicon HZ come par-to-par, but good luck sourcing them :laugh:
 
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lol ok i didnt understand half of that but cheers
 

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lol ok i didnt understand half of that but cheers
me neither. the one about a faster PC is wrong however, there is no way in hell a capcitor alters MHz or system speed.
 
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the one about a faster PC is wrong however, there is no way in hell a capcitor alters MHz or system speed.
have you tried?

better/cleaner Voltage can only improve overall performance
 

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have you tried?

better/cleaner Voltage can only improve overall performance
no... it cant. i've done many Vmods to many things, and its completely baffling as to how you think it makes things faster.

By that logic, altering the voltage to my CPU through the bios settings would make it faster, or increasing my ram voltages... it doesnt happen. you might be able to overclock a little better due to the stable voltages, but its not going to make anything faster by simply swapping a capacitor.
 
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why are people so ignorant?

i said better/cleaner voltage, NOT more voltage :shadedshu
 

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why are people so ignorant?

i said better/cleaner voltage, NOT more voltage :shadedshu
find me some proof then. I'm merely saying thats the only way it'd make a difference.
How on earth can CLEANER voltage make any difference to a CPU. answer that. educate me, find proof, a link, some person or group of people other than yourself who also claim the same thing.
 
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find me some proof then. I'm merely saying thats the only way it'd make a difference.
How on earth can CLEANER voltage make any difference to a CPU. answer that. educate me, find proof, a link, some person or group of people other than yourself who also claim the same thing.
this post proves just how ignorant you truly are.

good day :D
 

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this post proves just how ignorant you truly are.

good day :D
no it just makes you seem like a troll.
i've done electrical engineering courses and what you're saying makes no sense, and you're refusing to offer anything to prove your case.

Good day to you as well, fine sir.
 
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I must say I did not believe it myself as well. Before I actually measured it.
So I can't blame others for not believing in. But I can show proof - Abit KD7-G mobo, before recap SuperPi 1M test in 49.735 sec:



After recap SuperPi 1M test in 48.969 sec:



(SuperPi was run both times from terminal, so the results could be somewhat slower for 2332Mhz AthlonXP-M with Barton core)

0,766 is more that 3/4 of second! That is a hell lot of difference. It could be, probably, attributed to the fact, that MBZ Rubycons are nothing like Samxons GA I used to replace them. Also the imput Vcore caps, Rubycon ZL was 1200uF and I replaced them with 1500uF GC Samxons. Both can attribute to the positive change.

And the most shocking thing? Before recap I need 1.725Vcore to run the AXP-M 2500+ Prime stable. Now I can run it happily at 1.700Vcore...!!! (I tried the SuperPi tests in both voltages, there are some fluctuations with the times, but never less it fluctuate between 0,5 to 0,76 sec improve against Rubycon MBZ caps. I did not tried to go futher down with the Vcore, as the gain seems consistent with my Abit ST6-R experience - changed Vcore from Panny FM to Samxon GC, can do down with Vcore by 0,025V too - and I'm tired today.

In almost ALL of the 100+ recapping threads there:
http://capsmod.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=18
We measure the CPU speed after recap and it consistently show speed-up. This cannot be coincidence. I don't know what micro errors / recoverable errors slow the CPU down and I again must reassure you all that I never believed it at first... but when every my machine I recapped show this behaviour and speed-up, well... I come to conclusion that cleaner voltage helps.

It is kinda like the burn-in of opamps in my X-Fi. I never played too much with the audio stuff before and I was in great doubt about the "burn-in" when come to silicone components. I simply can't figure out the reason why this can be happening, so I sort of dismiss the claims... till I experienced it myself.
After the replacement it was too harsh the sound - overblow in the detail - but now it is fine. It took like 2 - 3 days and - like the speed-up - I again lack the definitive physical answer about why is this happening.

God damned, the silicone should either work or not, there should be no ongoing processes within it... But these are so obviously present.

So believe it or not, I honestly could not care less.
You migth be like me - you never believe, till you experience it yourself.
 

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now thats a useful post.

Intel Igent: you seriously just came off as a troll, and an ass. Trodas gave exactly the information required to prove the point, unlike you. he offered his own personal experience and proof as well as a link to a group of people who also did the same things, with the same results.
 
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Interesting stuff, Trodas.
I think I've experienced a similar speed up myself, but I think I put it down to random speed difference :) - I've never really thought of it like that.

I'm not a (qualified) electrical engineer but from an IT angle, when something isn't getting a "clean" current or voltage the entire system regulates (and throttles) itself - the entire smooth operation of a system such a computer is reliant on compensation, just like there isn't always 240v (or 110v) from your mains socket or 15amps from your main ring (obviously dependant on where you are or the type of installation, just an example). So, if a component is getting a more stable current, it's not having to compensate or throttle itself to stay stable.

And of course, that's the job of many of the capacitors on the motherboards :)
 
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@ mussels : why would i have to re-post and link you to the same thread you are reading right now to prove my point? the information you were asking of me is/was right in front of you ;)

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Memory 2x1g oczPC4000EbPl / 2x2g ocz2rpr1066
Video Card(s) 3850AGP / 4890vaporX
Storage 36g raptor+120g wd / wd 1001fals 1tb
Display(s) BenQ / sharpAQUOS LC-37D64U
Case modded antec plusview / generic
Audio Device(s) audigy 2zs / ASUS Xonar HDAV1.3
Power Supply fan/cable modded powerstream 520 / OCZ 700mxsp
Software Xp pro SP2 / VISTA ultimate OEM

cdawall

where the hell are my stars
Joined
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Messages
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Location
Houston
System Name Team Blue
Processor 5960X@4.8 1.42v
Motherboard Asus X99M-WS
Cooling EK Supremecy EVO, MCR220-Stack+MCR220+MCR320, D5-PWM+EK X-RES 140
Memory 4x8GB G.Skill Trident Z 3200 CL16
Video Card(s) (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's+ EVGA reference 1080Ti soon to be under water
Storage Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s) Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case Caselabs Mercury S5
Audio Device(s) Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse Thermaltake Theron
Keyboard Thermaltake Poseidon ZX
Software W10P
Benchmark Scores Zoom zoom mofo

Random Murderer

The Anti-Midas
Joined
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Location
Florida, A.K.A. the Sweatbox
System Name TOO MUCH RADIATOR! | The TV Box a.k.a. The Shoebox
Processor Core i7 4930K @ 4.5GHz | Core i5 6600K @ 4.5GHz
Motherboard Asus X79 Rampage IV Extreme | Asus Z170i Pro Gaming
Cooling Custom water on CPU and GPU, dual 360mm radiators | Corsair H80i
Memory 4x 8GB G.Skill TridentX DDR3-1600 | 2x 4GB G.Skill RipJaws 4 DDR4-3000
Video Card(s) Sapphire AMD R9 295x2 | PowerColor AMD HD7970
Storage Samsung SSD 830 256GB, various others | 2x 1TB Seagate Barracudas in RAID1
Display(s) Dell U2713HM 2560x1440 IPS | Panasonic TC-L32E5 1080p IPS TV
Case Thermaltake Suppressor F51 (stripped down to hold two radiators) | Cooler Master Elite 130
Audio Device(s) RM-DAC -> Xiang Sheng 708b -> Sennheiser HD650 | HDMI sound device on 7970
Power Supply LEPA G1600-MA 1600W | Corsair CX750M 750W
Software Win 10 64
Benchmark Scores over 9000 BungholioMarks, "Bitchin' Fast"

Carcenomy

New Member
Joined
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Location
Invers, NZ
System Name Project T - the computer I've never finished!
Processor Intel Core2 Quad Q9550
Motherboard ASUS Striker Extreme
Cooling Zalman 9500AM2 with 9500AT fan on CPU, Zalman VF1000 on both GPUs
Memory 4GB Corsair XMS2 Pro DDR2-800
Video Card(s) Gigabyte GTS250 OC'd 1GB w/ stock Zalman VF1050 x2 in SLI
Storage A-Data S592 64GB SSD and 2x 320GB Seagate Barracuda 7200 SATA2 in RAID0
Display(s) ViewSonic VX2433wm
Case 1997 Macase SuperMid tower. Vertical hinge sides, custom mesh front, open air path, fan controller.
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi Elite Pro PCI
Power Supply Silverstone Decathlon DA750
Software Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Benchmark Scores Hasn't been benched.
lol thanks biostar and thats there oc'ing mobo to
Sounds awfully like a whole pile of Socket A gear I've seen recently.

"My computer is flaking out!" complained one dude. Popped the side off and all but six capacitors were either bulging or already vented - top quality Soltek KT400 gear right there, GSC caps.

Another geezer turned up with an EPoX board of the same vintage, CPU caps were all swelled up. And another Soltek, KT333 based, same issue again. AND another Soltek, nForce2 based...

I'll get some shots up later.