How can I make sure my PSU is faulty? is there a stress app for PSUs?

Master · Apr 9, 2017

Hello everyone.
I hope you are all doing great.
I need to make sure my PSU is faulty and need to gather clues about it to save myself future hassles.
I have gotten sudden system shutdown, which when I digged into windows event viewer, I found Kernel-Power 41 (63) error , which I believe a sign for a faulty PSU.
but this shutting downs happen at random, how can I make sure this is indeed the PSU shutting down?
Is there any kind of stress app for PSUs?
I'd appreciate any kind of help.

Thank you in advance

P4-630 · Apr 9, 2017

Do some gaming as Crysis and such.

Master · Apr 9, 2017

P4-630 said:
Do some gaming as Crysis and such.

unfortunately I don't have that game! (I dont have any game to be honest!)

P4-630 · Apr 9, 2017

Master said:
unfortunately I don't have that game! (I dont have any game to be honest!)

Try Prime95 then.

Furmark would be another contender but be sure your graphics card has proper cooling and watch the temps.

Master · Apr 9, 2017

prime 95 runs fine, I've read that is not a good candidate to test for psu problems.

BiggieShady · Apr 9, 2017

Master said:
prime 95 runs fine, I've read that is not a good candidate to test for psu problems.

You may try to stress the graphics card at the same time ... reduce number of threads in prime95 by 1, in your case run only 3 threads of prime95 and at the same time run Heaven benchmark or Valley benchmark.

SnakeDoctor · Apr 9, 2017

No way to test a psu , best to try a know working one

Can try S%M Stress test + Aida Stress test

Caring1 · Apr 9, 2017

That's a general shut down error when Windows doesn't know what the cause is.
It may be power related.
First sign of a PSU issue can be detected in the voltage readings in the BIOS for the 3.3, 5 and 12V's they should be close to the correct values.

Something like this might help: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/20-24-Pi...382604?hash=item3d152ea18c:g:d1sAAOSwYmZXMKeR
I used one when running a mining rig to ensure correct voltage to the system.

CAPSLOCKSTUCK · Apr 9, 2017

buy one of these or similar

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ATX-Power...UK-/390550758785?_trksid=p2385738.m2548.l4275

silentbogo · Apr 9, 2017

If you want to stress it under load, use OCCTP.
It has a built-in feature for PSU testing, which loads all of the hardware to utilize all voltage rails.
Run that for about 20-30 minutes and see if either 12V, 5V or 3.3V goes too low (or high).
That's about the only non-intrusive thing you can do in order to check your PSU.

Ahhzz · Apr 9, 2017

SnakeDoctor said:
No way to test a psu , best to try a know working one

Can try S%M Stress test + Aida Stress test

The doctor has spoken. That's the best way, unless you want to splurge on the tester up there from ebay. How long have you had the P/S?

Caring1 · Apr 9, 2017

CAPSLOCKSTUCK said:
buy one of these or similar

Just like the one I linked

Vayra86 · Apr 9, 2017

Smash it with a hammer.

Success guaranteed

HD64G · Apr 9, 2017

silentbogo said:
If you want to stress it under load, use OCCTP.
It has a built-in feature for PSU testing, which loads all of the hardware to utilize all voltage rails.
Run that for about 20-30 minutes and see if either 12V, 5V or 3.3V goes too low (or high).
That's about the only non-intrusive thing you can do in order to check your PSU.

This! I have done that test for 2 PSUs. The one was proven to be of low quality (it had the bad noise when tested by this tool) and changed it just to be sure of not damaging my pc and for the 2nd case, it assured us that the psu tested was dying (pc was rebooting when pushed hard especially during gaming) and once a new one was installed our suspicions and OCCT's test were proven right.

http://www.ocbase.com/index.php/download

Jetster · Apr 9, 2017

http://www.ocbase.com/

basco · Apr 9, 2017

random reboots could be your ram too\i see you have 20gigs ram? in 4 slots?

i just say this before you buy something test all options you can which cost nothing.

http://www.memtest.org/

EarthDog · Apr 9, 2017

Master said:
prime 95 runs fine, I've read that is not a good candidate to test for psu problems.

why wouldn't it? It draws more power off your cpu than anything else you seem to do...

No idea of your brand "green" though...

I'd absolutely start looking at your mismatched ram...never a good idea...are even using that much?

sneekypeet · Apr 9, 2017

Had that same error with shutdowns. Replaced the PSU, swapped out to new RAM, tried all sorts of stuff. For me it turned out that I needed to flash the BIOS.

silentbogo · Apr 9, 2017

Master said:
I found Kernel-Power 41 (63) error

Totally missed that part. It could be anything from PSU or unstable overclock, to faulty RAM/GPU or anything else that may cause an immediate shutdown.
Start with running stock clocks, disabling XMP(if any), and start stress-testing everything - one component at a time.

jaggerwild · Apr 9, 2017

Master · Apr 9, 2017

Thank you everyone.
Here are what I have already done .
1.about my RAMs, they are all Geils, two 2 GB 1333 cl9 sticks and two 8 GB 1600 cl11 sticks.they are installed next to each other meaning 2GB sticks are installed in DIMM 1 and 2 and the other 2 sticks are installed in the remaining slots. I have run a memory test through windows 10's Memory Diagnostics, and no problems were found. (I need to say that, the basic test was over, I changed it and enabled all tests, it took more than several hours, and I had to manually restart the system since it was taking too long, I guess it froze or looked that way , though no errors were found! )
2.I have run prime95 and Aida more than an hour without any issues.
3.I have not overclocked my CPU. every thing is at stock clock. xmp is also disabled
4. I had to update my bios in order to install the new cpu. the problems have started since then , so I dont know if this is a bios issue or psu issue.
5.At the moment I cant use the suggested hardware for checking the psu. I'll try to test the software based suggestions first and then if they all were futile! I'm going to test that!

I'm going to run the suggestions and update this thread when the results are ready.
Thank you again everyone.

JL87 · Apr 9, 2017

Although it may be a hardware issue it could also be related to a bug in the fast startup option in the power management settings. This bug has been present since windows 8 and doesn't effect all hardware.

Every time I've updated my OS it gets reset and causes that error with my system suddenly shutting down until I disable that option.

Easy enough to do to see if that eliminates the problem.

Derek12 · Apr 9, 2017

HDTune + Prime95 + Furmark

newtekie1 · Apr 9, 2017

Master said:
.about my RAMs, they are all Geils, two 2 GB 1333 cl9 sticks and two 8 GB 1600 cl11 sticks.they are installed next to each other meaning 2GB sticks are installed in DIMM 1 and 2 and the other 2 sticks are installed in the remaining slots.

I'd just like to point out that I don't believe this is the proper way to install the memory on your motherboard. It should be 2 | 8 | 2 | 8.

Master · Apr 9, 2017

OK here are the OCCT results : http://imgur.com/gallery/6q7mr
While OCCT was running, my own test (Deep learning related (training a dataset which takes 3GBs of VGAs ram and almost uses 97~98% of the gpu, has been already running for several hours.
GPU temp reached to 77C
CPU temps were at most 80C
Todays temp was 26C

this is when the tests were finished :

@newtekie1 : Since I'd installed CoolerMasters hyper212 Fan, I couldnt place them that way.
I see if I can arrange them that way (but I doubt it , fingers crossed!)

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Power Supply	Green 700watt (Its a rebranded psu from highpower/kolink I guess)
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Audio Device(s)	Onboard-Realtek
Power Supply	Green 700watt (Its a rebranded psu from highpower/kolink I guess)
Software	Windows 10 /Ubuntu 16.04

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