How do I do Raid with my specs?

[Funtoss]

Hi guys can anyone help me with raid on my setup (specs)?

also tell me which raid is better to do for more performance?"

and i have files on both my hard drives, will doing raid delete files?

please help me?

thanks

 

[Deleted member 3]

RAID 0 is best for performance and RAID will delete your files in most cases. Using large drives that are used for storage in RAID 0 is a bad idea in my book though. I prefer using small fast devices for RAID 0 and keep storage safe instead.

 

[Athlonite]

yes grab a couple of 250GB 16mb cache samsung HDD's and put em into an raid0 array and just keep the two 640's as storage

 

[cheesy999]

Raid 0 is the fastest but if 1 drive breaks all data is lost so its best to have a backup

to set up raid i have instruction from your manufacturer, however tpu will not let me upload them so download them yourself


http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=vh26TDbmym1cfFi7

 

[Athlonite]

yeah the raid0 breaking stuff used to be the norm for shitty old scsi/IDE HDD's newer more modern HDD's don't fail as often I've used raid0 for the last 7 yrs and never had a disk fail alot of it comes down to case ventilation keep your HDD's under 50c and they'll be fine..... yes there is some risk but if you go with good HDD's like Western Digital or Samsung or Seagate then you should be just fine and for OS boot drive I wouldn't go above 2x 250GB HDD's or a couple of 300GB WD Veloci raptors

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

yeah the raid0 breaking stuff used to be the norm for shitty old scsi/ide hdd's newer more modern hdd's don't fail as often i've used raid0 for the last 7 yrs and never had a disk fail alot of it comes down to case ventilation keep your hdd's under 50c and they'll be fine..... Yes there is some risk but if you go with good hdd's like western digital or samsung or seagate then you should be just fine and for os boot drive i wouldn't go above 2x 250gb hdd's or a couple of 300gb wd veloci raptors

+1

 

[yogurt_21]

yeah the raid0 breaking stuff used to be the norm for shitty old scsi/IDE HDD's newer more modern HDD's don't fail as often I've used raid0 for the last 7 yrs and never had a disk fail alot of it comes down to case ventilation keep your HDD's under 50c and they'll be fine..... yes there is some risk but if you go with good HDD's like Western Digital or Samsung or Seagate then you should be just fine and for OS boot drive I wouldn't go above 2x 250GB HDD's or a couple of 300GB WD Veloci raptors

all of that is fine for a gaming machine, but not a nas or storage server or even desktop where you keep your most crucial data. Also not all sata drives are built for raid (infact most aren't) so those drives have a higher liklihood to fail. I work with servers all day and while it is rare to have a drive fail it does happen and you're screwed if anything important was on there in raid 0.

this is why we use raid 10 for servers which of course isn't an issue when the average one has 8 drives. Harder to do on a desktop where budgets are tight (4 drives required for raid 10)

I'd say get a couple smaller drives say dual velociraptor 150's instead of 300's and then grab a wd 1tb black edition for important data.

all in all I wouldn't recomend raid 5 for a desktop as the parity would negate most speed gains, especially on a built in mobo raid controller. Also raid 5 is annoying to rebuild as it takes forever.


If you have super critical data (your baby's first steps on video, wedding video, etc) opt for raid 1, and contrary to popular belief you will show an inprovement in read speed, just not write.

my nas has 2 raids on it the os raid is 2x160gb in raid 0 (takes less than 30 minutes to reinstall os and setup the server so no worries there) and the storage raid 2x wd 1tb green in raid 1. provides plenty of speed while giving me protection from drive failure on the storage raid. I just swapped the raid controller on it and in crippled mode my raid 1 copied at 30MB/s then once rebuilt the transfer back was 110MB/s really easy rebuild and didn't take much time at all I think too many people are too quick to dismiss raid 1.

 

[slyfox2151]

unless you use large drives for a Raid0, then its worthless.... a Single SSD would be MUCH FASTER!!!
larger drives are usualy faster as well as being newer, higher density per platter.

might even work out cheaper.

 

[Mussels]

even if its only a 1 in 1000 chance of your RAID array dying and losing all that data, that 1000th person who loses it all would be very, very pissed off at losing 1TB+ of data.


if you're running RAID 0, do NOT put important files on it. use other drives for storage and backup.


If you want RAID performance AND some redundancy, run RAID 5.

but even then, you need to be aware that if your mobo dies or you updgrade to a new board (and new SATA controller), your RAID array wont work. you will still need to get all the data off it somehow, format the drives, make a new array, and copy the data back.

this is why most people use RAID on servers and not on gaming systems.

 

[Athlonite]

Perhaps then I'm not normal Mussels I use Raid0 on my gaming setup 2x250GB WD2500aaks HDD's and have 3x 500GB for storage of important things like vids, music, docs etc etc anything I really must keep gets backed up to DVD-RW and then placed into cool dry dark environment.....

And to those that keep saying a cheap SSD (64GB = $200~300NZD) would be better my 2x250GB HDD's cost way less and gives me enough speed I,m not one to need it on now or to load in the blink of an eye it would be nice but it's not a necessity and for the cost I could've bought 4x 250GB and gone raid0+1

 

[Goodman]

unless you use large drives for a Raid0, then its worthless.... a Single SSD would be MUCH FASTER!!!
larger drives are usualy faster as well as being newer, higher density per platter.

might even work out cheaper.

I have use Raid0 on & off for the last 4-5 years & i've got to say Raid0 is not really worth it , sure you'll get nice boost in benchmarks scores but in every day use you won't notice any real differences if any...

I agree that a single SSD would be much faster then any HDD in raid0 , now imagine 2 SSD in raid 0... now that would be worth doing raid0 but at higher cost

 

[Laurijan]

RAID 0 is best for performance and RAID will delete your files in most cases. Using large drives that are used for storage in RAID 0 is a bad idea in my book though. I prefer using small fast devices for RAID 0 and keep storage safe instead.

One platter HDD (not necessarly need to be "small") are more secure for Raid 0 if you dont want to invest in SSDs. Makes sense since having multiple plates in HDDs can cause more problems.

 

[Mussels]

Perhaps then I'm not normal Mussels I use Raid0 on my gaming setup 2x250GB WD2500aaks HDD's and have 3x 500GB for storage of important things like vids, music, docs etc etc anything I really must keep gets backed up to DVD-RW and then placed into cool dry dark environment.....

And to those that keep saying a cheap SSD (64GB = $200~300NZD) would be better my 2x250GB HDD's cost way less and gives me enough speed I,m not one to need it on now or to load in the blink of an eye it would be nice but it's not a necessity and for the cost I could've bought 4x 250GB and gone raid0+1

i too run RAID 0, 2x500 for my games drive.


ZERO important data is left on those drives, because i know that at any moment one of those drives or my SATA controller (or mobo) could die and need to be replaced, and that data would be inaccessible.

 

[Laurijan]

i too run RAID 0, 2x500 for my games drive.


ZERO important data is left on those drives, because i know that at any moment one of those drives or my SATA controller (or mobo) could die and need to be replaced, and that data would be inaccessible.

Cool idea since in games Raid 0 makes most sense IMHO.

 

[Mussels]

Cool idea since in games Raid 0 makes most sense IMHO.

1x500GB for OS (60GB C: partition, rest for random storage)
2x500 RAID for games.


the idea is that anything important goes on the OS drives second partition so that a RAID failure or OS reformat doesnt cost me any data, and its easy to back it up onto my plethora of external drives/flash drives/DVD's

 

[Laurijan]

1x500GB for OS (60GB C: partition, rest for random storage)
2x500 RAID for games.


the idea is that anything important goes on the OS drives second partition so that a RAID failure or OS reformat doesnt cost me any data, and its easy to back it up onto my plethora of external drives/flash drives/DVD's

Thats a good solution for mechanical HDD setups.

More failure safe but more expenssive would be to use a solid-state drive, example:

1) OS drive SSD like 60GB with a small partition for very important files
2) 1x500GB Storage or more depending on media libary
3) 2x500GB Raid 0 for games