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How many of you Radeon 5700 owners have ditched your cards over the drivers?

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Is this issue epidemic, overblown, or somewhere in-between?

 
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Somewhere inbetween imo.

Since adrenalin 2020 came on the scene 12/2019 (and perhaps before that with 5700 series launch) they've seemingly been in scramble to correct issues. Fixes since adrenalin 2020 came out have come in on a more frequent basis and the lists are long (known issues and fixes). Seems there is really an issue as the complaints are real...and amd even commented on the 2020 driver issues. Something is amiss. There is no doubt in my mind nvidia cards, today and for the past few months, have a more stable driver ecosystem. Sure, they are more mature, but even when turing was launched it wasn't bad at all. Certainly not what we are seeing now.

That said, after reviewing several RDNA cards (5500xt to 5700xt) using a couple of drivers, I havent run into an issue in any of the titles we test.
 
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Ironically this is the one thing AMD manages to be consistent in... there is always something with the driver suite.

If its just that specific issue that hits your use case, you're screwed, and the next update is always quite far away. Also, many things are made bigger than they really are. But then again... why doesn't it just work fine?

Nvidia is also not perfect at this and has dropped the ball from time to time. But they do pick it up fast.
 
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Not any problem since the driver 20.1.3. The early 2020 edition ones had problems but not disastrous ones.
 

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I'll be honest

When i got the RX 5700 XT 50th Anniversary at launch it was a crap show and performance was a hit or miss. It just didn't work well at all for me. Ditched it and kept my RTX 2070

Fast forward to now and i went back with a AIB RX 5700 flashed to XT and it has been running rock solid. Drivers have definitely improved since launch still some bugs but not as bad.
 
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Is this issue epidemic, overblown, or somewhere in-between?

way way overblown at this rate, I cant remember where but a site(Gamefaq cant refind poll though?) had a pole yesterday where the black screens and issues were indicated by a 12000 people vote at that time to be spread quite evenly between nvidia and AMD yet only AMD are in the news.

there are issues for some no doubt, they do need fixing no doubt, some are user error on tuning setup ,no doubt in my mind some are just odd.

I have had issues like these consistently across all bios and driver releases IF AND ONLY IF MY RAM WAS NOT 100000% stable 99,9% stable is not enough , thinking its stabel is not enough,make sure it's stable, I do and have 0 issues but have if i didn't test my tune and clean install the odd driver.

but largely I've had no issues, and it WASNT JUST THE 5700 anyway but, well.
 
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Hopefully this overblown issue will become more big and kills AMD.:clap::clap:

On side note : This indecates that AMD could have compatative 7nm GPU in their pipeline.
 
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Are the issues for RDNA cards or just about every AMD? I'm still running 19.12.2 and everything is fine.

I probably won't be looking at AMD for the next upgrade though.

Hopefully this overblown issue will become more big and kills AMD.:clap::clap:
And that would help anyone how...?
 
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Hopefully this overblown issue will become more big and kills AMD.:clap::clap:
If AMD leaves the gpu market, nvidia will set outrageous prices with no competition. I got my intel 9700k for less then a 3700x because of AMD not because intel wanted to place their cpus on sale.
 

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Are the issues for RDNA cards or just about every AMD? I'm still running 19.12.2 and everything is fine.

I probably won't be looking at AMD for the next upgrade though.


And that would help anyone how...?
Seems only RDNA as my older GPUs have no issues

But for me drivers are much better now
 
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Is this issue epidemic, overblown, or somewhere in-between?
Well, AMD have been plagued with some fundamental driver issues for years, so it's hard to tell if people are either finally coming to that realization, or if there has been an escalation of problems lately.
Edit: Perhaps the cause of the attention is many gamers returning to AMD and expecting the same driver quality of Nvidia?

At least one thing should be clear; Navi is nearly identical to Vega on an ISA level, and the Navi driver have only a few adjustments. If people experience new bugs on new driver releases, they should be consistent across Navi, Vega and Polaris, otherwise it's not a driver issue, but a firmware or hardware issue (or of course user error).

The fundamental driver issues for AMD have been causing stutter, random crashes and glitches for years. Several years ago I had one Radeon card in my secondary machine, and I had to throw in my old GTX 680 instead since the machine was not "usable" to my standards. These problems are caused by underlying problems in the driver core, and can't be patched with a workaround. Their driver engineers need to dig down deep and fix the problem, patchwork never truly works in software.

This is just a matter of priorities. AMD spend a lot of resources on assisting developers and "optimizing"(adding workarounds) games in their driver. If they only made driver quality their first priority and reserved some resources for this, they could become the king of graphics drivers. Until they do, it wouldn't matter how good their next GPUs are as long as their drivers are crap, and this is sad, we need AMD to do well. And no amount of fancy graphics in their control panel can make up for a faulty driver.

Disclaimer: not a Radeon 5700 owner.
 
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hwunboxed reported that return rate of navi gpus is 5x higher than previous generation,from what they have been told by one of amd's partners (or was it amazon?)
 
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Let me quote my own post from other forum on that exact topic:

Agree, i have almost always been using ati/amd gpus and i was able to confirm other people issues literally 2, maybe 3 times. My secret to correct operation of all things is to perform clean windows install after swapping to new gpu and keep all drivers up to date to latest version, including chipset, soundcard, networking card and other devices. Also latest firmware/bios for all of them.
I perform clean windows install twice a year, every time new rtm windows 10 build gets released. I'm avoiding upgrade because usually upgrades are causing many problems sooner or later, same way i go with my ubuntu, not just windows as the same applies to both of these OSes. About using ddu... i had to use it literally 3 times in last 5 years, i do not recommend using it as replacement of uninstaller provided with a driver and from posts i see on guru3d seems like many of you are using DDU that way, do not do it this way, stop it, literally. Wagnard will tell you exactly the same thing. This tool is not made to replace uninstaller, it is made to be a service tool which you should use as last step before windows reinstall in solving problems with gpu driver.

Good example for all these 5700/xt issues is hardware unboxed yt channel, they claim they do not have such severe issues or any actual real issues with their 5700/xt cards and are wondering what their viewers are talking about.

Another thing is what people call as severe issues. Some people claim that some few pixels shimmering over fire or in fog in the witcher 3 are gamebreaking bug and to them this is a valid reason to replace properly operating gpu with competition's gpu. Someone else will call amd incompetent after facing some bug once and being unable to reproduce this bug anymore but this one occurrence to such person is enough to call amd crap and go buy nvidia gpu. Severe bug is something what you can reproduce and it makes your pc unstable or unusable, not what occurred once and you solved it with pressing reboot button on your pc case. But... there are these bad cases which can be hard to trace: software conflicts. Even these you can't call problem with a driver. Recently i had a problem like this, even posted it here on guru3d in one of previous driver threads: ac unity had fps dropped by 70% when booting on next day. It took me a week or so to trace cause of the issue. That was some crazy conflict between gpu driver, the game and.... gigabyte aorus engine tool. Once i uninstalled that tool unity was working properly any time i launched it, any day i launched it and so on.

One more thing is OC. Many people keep their hardware overclocked, especially popular oc now is ram oc as widespread knowledge is ryzen cpus do better with ram tweaked as much as possible. I keep my ram OCed too, from 3200MHz to 3600MHz and it is stable. Same probably is in other users case, 99,(9)% time this oc is stable but sometimes it can be misbehaving and causing issues which users point out as driver issue while in reality these can be caused by oc.

Concluding: perform clean windows install, update firmware/bios to latest versions for all applicable components, update all possible drivers to latest available versions, bring your hardware back to stock settings (remove oc), remove all useless software and control panels. If after all this your problems still occur then contact amd support to provide all info about bug and/or gpu manufacturer to rma your card or to make them provide you custom bios fixing such problem.

And all that assuming you have properly working all other components in the first place...
 
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people are saying it's gotten better - from unusable (black screen a couple of minutes into windows) to crashing every once in a while.

Not any problem since the driver 20.1.3. The early 2020 edition ones had problems but not disastrous ones.
still a problem apparently.
I mean for some users,if you're in the clear then be thankful.
 
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If AMD leaves the gpu market, nvidia will set outrageous prices with no competition. I got my intel 9700k for less then a 3700x because of AMD not because intel wanted to place their cpus on sale.
People dont care about price and Nvidia finiancial result for 2019 proves that.
 

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Let me quote my own post from other forum on that exact topic:
I dont do that, i keep chipset drivers current, do clean driver installs.
 
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hwunboxed reported that return rate of navi gpus is 5x higher than previous generation,from what they have been told by one of amd's partners (or was it amazon?)
Unboxed and tech spot are the same, Steve who runs unboxed wrote the article I linked and mentioned that return rate
 
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People dont care about price and Nvidia finiancial result for 2019 proves that.
Your general mindset is unhelpful and near useless to this site never mind thread, I'm glad you are wrong and people cannot be just put whole hog into the complete muppet basket ie yes some people might be daft but not many, most were born with intelligence and moreover 98% of the population of the world is financially restricted and DO CARE.
 
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Ironically this is the one thing AMD manages to be consistent in... there is always something with the driver suite.

If its just that specific issue that hits your use case, you're screwed, and the next update is always quite far away. Also, many things are made bigger than they really are. But then again... why doesn't it just work fine?

Nvidia is also not perfect at this and has dropped the ball from time to time. But they do pick it up fast.

This has always been my experience too, and I'm talking about over the course of 20 years. There was a time for me when 'value' to save $30 and get similar performance was worth it, but that time has long since past. If I have to spend half a Saturday uninstalling - reinstalling or god forbid doing a complete rebuild from the OS up, that is a total loser for me. Now I will gladly pay an extra $100, or even $200, to not have to waste my time.


I love AMD, don't get me wrong, but it's for this reason that I have been on Nvidia cards for the past 10 years. Now, AMD CPUs, that's a whole different topic.
 
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If AMD leaves the gpu market, nvidia will set outrageous prices with no competition. I got my intel 9700k for less then a 3700x because of AMD not because intel wanted to place their cpus on sale.
Thats the status quo right now and the outcome is thesame. Prices are already inflated and it went that way from the moment AMD stopped competing in high end. It trickles down and now they even struggle in mid range; look at all the Navi trickery with pricing and performance.

People seem to miss that it already turned to shit years ago...

AMD GPU replaced by something new would be best. But... who?
 
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Your general mindset is unhelpful and near useless to this site never mind thread, I'm glad you are wrong and people cannot be just put whole hog into the complete muppet basket ie yes some people might be daft but not many, most were born with intelligence and moreover 98% of the population of the world is financially restricted and DO CARE.
But in reality Nvidia has 75-80% market share. If people are not buying "overpriced" Nvidia card then how Nvidia gained that much market share. Simple people dont care about price, they care about performence.
 

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Is this issue epidemic, overblown, or somewhere in-between?

5x the return rate tells me it surely isn't overblown. It's not (too) epidemic either, the author says it's possible to run several cards without a hitch. But being unable to at least find the source of the problems for more than half a year sure doesn't do AMD any favor.

Also, please stop feeding the ice troll. He will go on forever and won't produce any arguments.
 
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But in reality Nvidia has 75-80% market share. If people are not buying "overpriced" Nvidia card then how Nvidia gained that much market share. Simple people dont care about price, they care about performence.
But but But, in reality, that is not relevant,, , ,There are a great many reasons why Nvidia have been successful and I would discredit none HERE, However, that means absolutely F all to this thread and your just being controversial some might say trolly for your own reasons.

PRICE?, that is not the point of this thread, neither is the eternal fanboi argument between Nvidia and AMD.
 
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Seems only RDNA as my older GPUs have no issues

But for me drivers are much better now
No problems here either & i'm running a much older computer than most users (939). They did break AOTS in the last three drivers but it's fixed in the latest driver. They did break it three times since I have owned this game, so I'm very confident they will break it again then fix it.

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I've had issues with RX 580 (and overall with Ryzen platform, BIOS issues etc. to extent I cursed the day I ditched intel and nVIDIA for good) but it was polished out after some time. One of my acquaintances bought Vega 56 when it was hot product and replaced it with nVIDIA counterpart of that time because he got tired of driver issues.
Anyway, Radeon cards age like fine wine but many are not patient to wait this. When you pay something you expect it to work.
 
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