How many of you Radeon 5700 owners have ditched your cards over the drivers?

[Decryptor009]

See, that's the thing. I'm a gambling man. And I'll take a (hypothetical) 95% success rate any day of the week. Hell, I play Blackjack and have a 51% chance to LOSE and play that like it is going out of style.
They aren't that bad. Surely.

But they've had a year, or damn close to it already. Adrenalin drivers tout stability and 2020 was their worst effort yet.

Again, I say that knowing few (though plenty) have been affected.

When you need to manually adjust the driver so that it allows your card to use more than 30% fan speed to stop it shutting off and black screening even on the latest driver revision, clearly AMD need to pull their fingers from the dirt.

 

[Kanan]

They aren't that bad. Surely.

Not for tech savvy nerds maybe, but for the average users, every 5th guy seems to have problems. For Nvidia users, problems are a rarity. I'm still waiting for the first problem with the 1080 Ti after 7 months. It works like a charm. And my system is quite exotic.

 

[Nuckles56]

So far so good with the system I built with a 5700XT, it has been nice and stable so far and boosts nice and high for good performance. That said I haven't had problems with either AMD or nvidia cards outside of the gt 1030 in my htpc running on ubuntu which occasionally has black screen issues which go away after a reboot.

 

[BoboOOZ]

AMD is constantly in price wars with their competitors, it's called capitalism for a reason.

Ah, I see now, you call price war being placed competitively. What most people call price war is making multiple price cuts so that products are sold close to their production price, or sometimes lower. We're far from this for this generation, where AMD sold their 250mm2 die for 400usd and they were less competitive in the lower segment and they didn't compete at all in the higher one. They will move up the ladder with the next generation, but no crown and still no price war.

 

[user112]

the biggest problem for me is that AMD has had broken OpenGL support for years in their official drivers while in open source MESA drivers it's fixed. which to me speaks volumes about how incompetent their driver team is. since things like that causes broken graphics and lost benchmarks which means less sales. because very few people test GPUs in linux.

 

[HD64G]

FYI, my Pulse 5700 continues being a perfectly performer. Some driver versions created problems but from 20.2.2 and onwards all good with great performance too.

 

[INSTG8R]

I got the number from your post. I bolded them for you.

Thats another FREE 2.5% that was gIven to us after release. So add that to the improvement it already had over Vega

 

[Athlonite]

Same GPU as me HD64G

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

When you need to manually adjust the driver so that it allows your card to use more than 30% fan speed to stop it shutting off and black screening even on the latest driver revision, clearly AMD need to pull their fingers from the dirt.

I am fairly certain AMD don't pre configure fan curve's for OEM card's and that the AIB manufacturers should both be setting up the fan curve's , obviously the reference card's are reference, I'm talking AIB card's.
AMD cannot know the cooling system of each card so couldn't make one fan curve for all.

If they did or do then it would still be upto the OEM to pick parts that will work effectively to cool the system.

If an AIB card doesn't cool right ,to me it's the AIB at fault.

 

[ratirt]

FYI, my Pulse 5700 continues being a perfectly performer. Some driver versions created problems but from 20.2.2 and onwards all good with great performance too.

My pulse 5600xt gives me a heart beat like I have never had while playing games.
No problems here with the card. I was hoping to do some OC and tweaks on it (Maybe Bios update I got the older one) but I didn't have a lot of time for that.
This is actually what I'm talking about. People blame drivers but I have no issues. I think if there were major drivers issues all of us would have experienced it. More or less but all of us. My 5600xt crashed and black screened due to my hardware. Mainly broken PSU which has been replaced. No problems now. So I'm really skeptical about this driver issues. I decided to go NAVI to see for myself and "driver issues" has been blown out of proportion very badly.

If an AIB card doesn't cool right ,to me it's the AIB at fault.

For me that is an obvious thing.
If a card has cooling issues or the card has a problem with whatever. People blame AMD, God knows why if they have only their chip in the card. What I know is, people will always blame someone even if the fault lies on their side.

 

[Filip Georgievski]

As a long term AMD GPU user, i can say that in the days of the Catalyst driver (HD 5, 6 and 7 Series GPUs), it was buggy as hell and was crashing, but not to a point where it is unusable, those were minor stuff that were fixable if you had 5 mints to spare.

Now coming forward to the new Adrenaline 2020 drivers, i never had any major issues with them. I even resort to using the streaming software AMD provides in their drivers since it gives me a much better streaming performance than OBS does with my current config. On top of that while streaming i don't lose performance at all (maybe 1 or 2% while in heavy situations) since my R5 3600 can handle it.

For example, here is a link to a 4 hour stream i did yesterday:

 

[Adam Krazispeed]

I'll be honest

When i got the RX 5700 XT 50th Anniversary at launch it was a crap show and performance was a hit or miss. It just didn't work well at all for me. Ditched it and kept my RTX 2070

Fast forward to now and i went back with a AIB RX 5700 flashed to XT and it has been running rock solid. Drivers have definitely improved since launch still some bugs but not as bad.

need to run dx12 too 5700 xt is much faster in dx12. iv tested it, i have 3x 5700s ( 2x are XTs and 1x is a 5700 flashed with XT bios, ) i had never had any issues, tho i always fresh install windows on even a NVME drive swap/upgrade.

GPU upgrades are a must to fully re-install OS, DDU DOES NOT WORK 100% (Display Driver Uninstaller)

BEST IS TO FRESH INSTALL OS EVERY TIME U ADD OR UPGRADE OR SWAP ANYTHING, AND YES EVEN RAM TOO!!! AND CPU, GPU HDD, SSD ETC!!!!

 

[jayseearr]

My experience with AMD Vega 56 (not only their drivers but software as well) has been so bad that getting a 5700 is out of the question for me. I'm looking to upgrade very soon (definitely to nvidida and most likely to a 2060ko). I think it's great what AMD has done recently (kicking a** in the CPU department) and gaining some market share in the GPU department. But in my personal opinion based on my personal experience AMD has a long way to go in the software and driver department. I would never recommend anyone to buy a AMD gpu and i will not be buying one at least for a couple generations until they get things figured out. Saving a few dollars is not worth it for me if i have to worry about troubleshooting constantly and have a unstable experience.

 

[cucker tarlson]

BEST IS TO FRESH INSTALL OS EVERY TIME U ADD OR UPGRADE OR SWAP ANYTHING, AND YES EVEN RAM TOO!!! AND CPU, GPU HDD, SSD ETC!!!!

had three different cards on my current OS installation and igpu in between them.

I think if there were major drivers issues all of us would have experienced it.

or,or.....
amd would've been able to reproduce them or seen them reported by many users and put them on the release notes for every driver......

Known Issues

• Radeon RX Vega Series and Radeon VII graphics products may experience performance drops when Performance Metrics Overlay is open while a game is running.
• Some game titles may experience hitching when Instant Replay is enabled on Radeon RX 5000 series system configurations.
• Enhanced Sync may cause a black screen to occur when enabled on some games and system configurations. Any users who may be experiencing issues with Enhanced Sync enabled should disable it as a temporary workaround.
• Using Edge™ web browser to playback video content with a multi display system configuration may cause a system hang or crash after extended periods of use.
• Performance Metrics Overlay and Radeon WattMan incorrectly report higher than expected idle clock speeds on Radeon RX 5700 series graphics products. Performance and power consumption are not impacted by this incorrect reporting.
• Some games may exhibit stutter intermittently during gameplay on Radeon RX 5000 series graphics products.
• Radeon RX Vega series graphics products may experience a system crash or TDR when performing multiple task switches using Alt+Tab.
• Desktop or In-game corruption may occur intermittently when HDR is enabled.
• Some users may still experience black screen or system hang issues during extended periods of gameplay. AMD will continue to monitor and investigate reports of these issues closely.

it's been 11 months and they still have no idea what is going on with these drivers crashing,hanging,random blackscreen and stutter.

 

[Shou Miko]

So far with the 2 games I completed with my Sapphire PULSE RX 5700 XT I haven't had any issues with drivers or in-game really other then game bugs like I experienced in the story in Mafia II Definitive Edition on the last mission where I could in one try hide behind sometimes and on other tries I couldn't I was shoot though but that's a game issue not graphics card issue.

So far I completed Saint's Row The Third: Mastered and Mafia II: Definitive Edition just on "The Betrayl of Jimmy" at the moment then the 2 other DLC's will follow when I feel like it.

I am not in a gamering mood these days it's really sad so I am not sure what games to game.

 

[Chrispy_]

I'm looking to upgrade very soon (definitely to nvidida and most likely to a 2060ko)

I can wholly recommend avoiding the 2060KO. I just dumped my 2060FE because 6GB isn't enough, it really should have been an 8GB card from the start. Also, the RTX performance of the 2060 and 2060Super are so bad that you won't run RTX games on either card.

Get a 1660 Super, or get a 2070 Super. Everything in between is pointless unless you switch teams and go to AMD.

 

[P4-630]

I'm looking to upgrade very soon

Wait for September, new GPU's coming from AMD and Nvidia.

 

[EarthDog]

Wait for September, new GPU's coming from AMD.

FTFY.

Nvidia isn't known (4Q?) amd is supposedly September.

 

[jayseearr]

^

I can wholly recommend avoiding the 2060KO. I just dumped my 2060FE because 6GB isn't enough, it really should have been an 8GB card from the start. Also, the RTX performance of the 2060 and 2060Super are so bad that you won't run RTX games on either card.

Get a 1660 Super, or get a 2070 Super. Everything in between is pointless unless you switch teams and go to AMD.

I rarely even use 4gb for my applications let alone 6 but that is definitely something worth thinking about nonetheless. I agree it probably should have been 8gb card to start with. Anyhow, I'm not set on it yet, I just want a reliable graphics card that is low maintenance and can handle 1080p at 120-144hz. The 8gb my vega 56 has now looks great on paper but the truth of the matter is I don't NEED that much. I don't ask much from the GPU but one thing i do ask is that works the way it's supposed to when i want it to. In my case specifically, I would gladly trade 2gb of VRAM for a smoother experience and a card with drivers and software that actually do their job. Anyhow, thanks for the input/recommendation. Also thanks for the heads up as well P4-630, I will look into that.

 

[NoJuan999]

Also, the RTX performance of the 2060 and 2060Super are so bad that you won't run RTX games on either card.

Get a 1660 Super, or get a 2070 Super. Everything in between is pointless unless you switch teams and go to AMD.

I game at 1080p / 60 Hz (AAA single player games) and I am very happy with the performance of my MSI 2060 Super Armor OC.
And I have played games with Raytracing enabled (Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Control and Metro Exodus) and the performance was exactly what I expected at 1080p on Ultra settings (60+ to 90 fps).

 

[Chrispy_]

I game at 1080p / 60 Hz (AAA single player games) and I am very happy with the performance of my MSI 2060 Super Armor OC.
And I have played games with Raytracing enabled (Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Control and Metro Exodus) and the performance was exactly what I expected at 1080p on Ultra settings (60+ to 90 fps).

Oh wow, I guess you could game at 1080p60 on a $420 card.
Do you not have a 144Hz 2560x1440 monitor though? They start at like $260 and are a prerequisite for expensive graphics cards in my opinion.

 

[NoJuan999]

Oh wow, I guess you could game at 1080p60 on a $420 card.
Do you not have a 144Hz 2560x1440 monitor though? They start at like $260 and are a prerequisite for expensive graphics cards in my opinion.

I don't.
Since I only play single player games and do video encoding (to stream to my 1080p HDTVs), I just haven't felt the need to upgrade my monitor.
I will eventually buy one but for now I'm still very happy with my current 1080p / 60 Hz Monitor.

 

[Shou Miko]

I forgot to add I game at 4K and I get around 50-60fps in Mafia II Definitive Edition and in Saints Row The Third Remastered I did close and sometimes above 60fps with all details maxed out.

There isn't a lot of new not remastered games that I game at the moment.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Is this issue epidemic, overblown, or somewhere in-between?

Gamers are ditching Radeon graphics cards over driver issues

As I planned and was beginning to run our next big graphics card benchmark test, I felt I had to shift gears to discuss AMD's driver woes...

www.techspot.com

I got a reference model for $280 newegg special. Almost ditched it after a few months.

Various issues included full screen green tint, full screen magenta tint, signal loss after wake from sleep (black screen), and spontaneous reboot. Also using Google Chrome hardware acceleration was an issue. Started getting increasingly louder over several months then, when I did my custom loop and put a GPU block on, I found the thermal pads were junk (drying, cracking, and flaking away).

After some driver updates earlier this year and turning off "Radeon Enchanced Sync" issues seem to be resolved as well as the GPU block reduced thermals and noise. Now running smoothly but afraid of driver updates.

 

[ratirt]

or,or.....
amd would've been able to reproduce them or seen them reported by many users and put them on the release notes for every driver......

it's been 11 months and they still have no idea what is going on with these drivers crashing,hanging,random blackscreen and stutter.

Sure, it has been recognized by users that these black screens occur. Maybe AMD put them in the list of "known issues" not to ignore customers since as far as I know some of these were never replicate. 11 month and never been fixed,. Maybe it's not a driver issue per say? Well I don't have an issue with my 5600XT really don't know what to tell ya. I don't have issues and I'm sorry for those who have them.
My issue, as you already know was the PSU. or maybe you don't know. random black screen in Unigine and other games. Anyway no driver issues here.
Oh there is one issue. CSGO when I have image sharpening on, sometimes the FPS drops to 30FPS then go back to normal after some time. Switch it off problem gone. Other games manage to go with this feature on. That's basically all issues I'v encountered.