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Well, I took a chance picking up an open box ASrock 5700 XT for $270. It’s an older blower card, but for that price I was willing to give it a shot. It arrives Sunday, so wish me luck!
how TF are you getting it that cheap?! I’d love to play with one and use something neweron the flashing guide but I’m not burning $ on a 5700XT
 
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how TF are you getting it that cheap?! I’d love to play with one and use something neweron the flashing guide but I’m not burning $ on a 5700XT
Because it is open box? The seller just do not want to stock up unreturnable items. Gave it away without added profit.
 

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Because it is open box? The seller just do not want to stock up unreturnable items. Gave it away without added profit.
somehow totally missed open box good call
 
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It was from B&H. They are more known for photography gear than PC parts, but when they do have an open box item, it is usually at a pretty deep discount. It might have been a return, so I am taking a chance, but B&H has an awesome return policy.
 

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"meh"

Mixed really. If it affects you it sucks. If not, gravy.



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So what is the consensus then? Solid card, dodgy drivers? Fine wine, or fine whine?

Sounds fairly AMD to me reading around *don't shot*.
Well, like I said in my first post; if there are problems that only exist on Navi, it shouldn't be driver related at all, since the Navi driver is only a Vega/Polaris driver with some minor adjustments.
 
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it does seem very odd that problems persist 7 months after the launch.
 
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it does seem very odd that problems persist 7 months after the launch.
It does, that's why it's important that AMD takes this seriously and dig down to identify the concrete underlying problem(s), and address them accordingly. There is a good chance that there might be several factors at play here, and end-users are generally very unreliable when describing problems precisely. But this doesn't mean we should dismiss the fact that they're complaining about problems.
 
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Well, mine arrived today and everything seems to be in working order—card is mint and quite hefty. My limited testing has Destiny 2 running great in 4K with most settings on high (my goal is to keep a solid 60fps). I enabled auto undervolt, and the card has no problem holding 2060mhz on luxmark. I’ll see how it does in games more extensively tonight. Also, my 500w PSU is managing ok so far. I’m pulling about 350w from the wall from my rig. The blower isn’t too bad, but I also have lots of background noise most of the time, being in unfinished basement space. Not bad for $270!
 
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Well, like I said in my first post; if there are problems that only exist on Navi, it shouldn't be driver related at all, since the Navi driver is only a Vega/Polaris driver with some minor adjustments.
How can you be sure of that? Without dissecting the source code there is no way to tell.
 
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How can you be sure of that? Without dissecting the source code there is no way to tell.
That's a very safe bet. Firstly we know the ISA is practically the same, and secondly we know the Mesa drivers (which interfaces with the same firmware) have only a few adjustments for Navi.
 
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How can you be sure of that? Without dissecting the source code there is no way to tell.
There are lots of ways to tell. For starters, the softpowerplay tables enable completely different feature sets between vega/polaris and navi.

So really, it's complete bs: they are nothing alike.

That's a very safe bet. Firstly we know the ISA is practically the same, and secondly we know the Mesa drivers (which interfaces with the same firmware) have only a few adjustments for Navi.
Wut? Have you even looked at the actaul clusterbomb of mesa diffs that were needed?

The ISA might be similar but off the top of my head, power management is completely rewritten, at bear minimum. It talks to firmware about that now instead of just using granular dpm states.
 
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There are lots of ways to tell. For starters, the softpowerplay tables enable completely different feature sets between vega/polaris and navi.

So really, it's complete bs: they are nothing alike.



Wut? Have you even looked at the actaul clusterbomb of mesa diffs that were needed?

The ISA might be similar but off the top of my head, power management is completely rewritten, at bear minimum. It talks to firmware about that now instead of just using granular dpm states.

I feel AMD should just put all GCN cards in legacy support so they can focus on getting the new uArc support where it was supposed to be 7 months ago. GCN drivers were really good already so really no need to accidentally mess it up.
 
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I feel AMD should just put all GCN cards in legacy support so they can focus on getting the new uArc support where it was supposed to be 7 months ago. GCN drivers were really good already so really no need to accidentally mess it up.
I've personally had really good luck using the Radeon Pro driver releases in gaming. It might be advisable for others to try similar.

About the only thing you lose is Integer Scaling... and Vulkan 1.2, but who cares?

I feel AMD should just put all GCN cards in legacy support so they can focus on getting the new uArc support where it was supposed to be 7 months ago. GCN drivers were really good already so really no need to accidentally mess it up.
As long as we make clear legacy != abandoned, sure.
 
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So far so good. I’m guessing the previous owner (if it was a return) didn’t like the noise, because otherwise the card seems to work just fine. I did have an issue with SOTR, but it turns out a couple game files were corrupted since the last time I played it, and a Steam validation check fixed that problem. I did go in and do a custom fan curve, and also limited the top clock to 2000 at 1150mV. That helps keep the temps in check and the blower from not getting too offensive. I’m running the recommended drivers, 20.1.3. I also played Forza 7 without issue too. The 5700 XT handles that game at 4K with ease.
 

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So far so good. I’m guessing the previous owner (if it was a return) didn’t like the noise, because otherwise the card seems to work just fine. I did have an issue with SOTR, but it turns out a couple game files were corrupted since the last time I played it, and a Steam validation check fixed that problem. I did go in and do a custom fan curve, and also limited the top clock to 2000 at 1150mV. That helps keep the temps in check and the blower from not getting too offensive. I’m running the recommended drivers, 20.1.3. I also played Forza 7 without issue too. The 5700 XT handles that game at 4K with ease.
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Has anyone seen this?

RMA-rates (hardware defects) RX 5000 Series @ mindfactory.de

It's about hardware issues and not driver issues but i suppose it's good to know, right?
 
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RMA-rates (hardware defects) RX 5000 Series @ mindfactory.de

It's about hardware issues and not driver issues but i suppose it's good to know, right?
Ironically the 2080ti still has the highest failure rate and those are supposed to be the pinnacle of premium cards.
 

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I have posted previously about my video cards. Dell VisionTek 5700 and a XFX 5700XT Both are Reference Cards and costs $280 and $300 new. Holiday purchases. I must be lucky but I have not had any driver issues.

After undervolting the VisionTek card it runs real nice, real cool and uses lower watts.

But I have been noticing that on other sights they have been reporting issues with these cards. Both Drivers and HardWare.

In my case I will not recommend the XFX 5700XT to anyone regardless of if is a reference model or not. Quality control is lacking and it seems ASUS is the same way.

This is also AMD's fault with this GPU. There is a sweet spot on these cards and once you find them they tend to run nice AND cool. But the settings are always lower than what is posted on the box. IMHO the 5700XT cards are nothing but glorified overclocked GPU's that you are spending a premium on. I have been telling my clientele base to think twice on these cards.

I'm neither a AMD/INTEL/NVIDIA fanboi. I just want the product to work for a reasonable price without gimmicks, without balled faced lies about performance and in my 6 decades of living so far I never seen anyone get laid just because of the bling bling on their computer.

Now If you can pick up a 5700 for under $300 and you really do you your homework then I would recommend the 5700. I'm enjoying mine

Otherwise pay the Nvidia premium tax and get a lesser performance card for the same price.
 
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Ironically the 2080ti still has the highest failure rate and those are supposed to be the pinnacle of premium cards.
Hardware Unboxed said AMD RMA is 5x higher than Nvidia. Where are official Mindfactory.de RMA numbers? Not some alternative Reddit numbers?
 

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I have posted previously about my video cards. Dell VisionTek 5700 and a XFX 5700XT Both are Reference Cards and costs $280 and $300 new. Holiday purchases. I must be lucky but I have not had any driver issues.

After undervolting the VisionTek card it runs real nice, real cool and uses lower watts.

But I have been noticing that on other sights they have been reporting issues with these cards. Both Drivers and HardWare.

In my case I will not recommend the XFX 5700XT to anyone regardless of if is a reference model or not. Quality control is lacking and it seems ASUS is the same way.

This is also AMD's fault with this GPU. There is a sweet spot on these cards and once you find them they tend to run nice AND cool. But the settings are always lower than what is posted on the box. IMHO the 5700XT cards are nothing but glorified overclocked GPU's that you are spending a premium on. I have been telling my clientele base to think twice on these cards.

I'm neither a AMD/INTEL/NVIDIA fanboi. I just want the product to work for a reasonable price without gimmicks, without balled faced lies about performance and in my 6 decades of living so far I never seen anyone get laid just because of the bling bling on their computer.

Now If you can pick up a 5700 for under $300 and you really do you your homework then I would recommend the 5700. I'm enjoying mine

Otherwise pay the Nvidia premium tax and get a lesser performance card for the same price.
Msi Evoke too.
 
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Last year, bought RX 580, drivers sucked, there were electrical issues with the card, replaced it twice, and then went with GTX 1070 for a bargain (40% off) after 5700 was annouced.
That's very subjective. I still use a RX 580 and never had a driver issue, not now and not last year. Plus I liked the driver interface from last year, though I don't mind the new version either.

Hardware Unboxed said AMD RMA is 5x higher than Nvidia. Where are official Mindfactory.de RMA numbers? Not some alternative Reddit numbers?
Once again, Hardware Unboxed claiming that AMDs RMA is 5x higher than Nvidia is Subjective. The majority of the issues is people not properly uninstalling existing drivers. Not denying there isn't a driver issue, but a lot of the Reddit nonsense has been overblown on purpose with many so called 5700 owners returning these GPUs for Nvidia equivalents. Those particular stories are just that, stories to paint a bad picture on AMD.

Has anyone seen this?

RMA-rates (hardware defects) RX 5000 Series @ mindfactory.de

It's about hardware issues and not driver issues but i suppose it's good to know, right?
So pretty much at that store, RMA rates for both AMD & Nvidia are pretty close. I cannot believe the cost of the GPU goes up if they actually test the bloody thing for about 7 hours as opposed to 1/2 hour LOL, can't believe that nonsense. It seems as though QC has been thrown out the window overall.
NOTE:
RMA-rate is not correlated to volume of Unit Sold. This is because in the UK Sapphire is predominate seller of Radeon GPUs.


Another issue is a GPU can have a hardware issue, and people blame the drivers.
 
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I had to use older drivers to get an r9 390 to work the latest drivers just give a black screen
 
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Opposite to turing GPUs artifacting or dying, most Navi RMAs should be related to bad drivers and users not knowing how to proper clean uninstall-install them. My 5c.
 
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I had to use older drivers to get an r9 390 to work the latest drivers just give a black screen
OK. That's an isolated driver issue with that particular card.

My point was that both Nvidia and AMD have various driver issues. In the past and present and I'm sure in the future too. But people are making it look like AMD drivers are bad and Nvidia's are like little Angels lol clearly not the case.
 
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