How many of you went back to Windows 7 ?

D007 · Feb 5, 2013

I didn't find 8 worth upgrading too.
Microsoft want to keep shoving a new OS down our throats every 2 years now.
I'm not with it..

The improvements do not warrant a new OS imo.
Some things are just not improved at all, like gaming..
So to me that's a fail..

If I wanted a tablet interface, I'd buy a tablet..
I don't and I won't.

lilhasselhoffer · Feb 5, 2013

Used windows 8 beta. Two weeks was all I could stand before I wiped the partition.

You get:
Slightly better performance
Slightly better security

You lose:
Any support solutions, since Vista
A mouse centric UI
Independence from the MS store

If I'm paying for an upgrade I want an upgrade. XP was great, even after slogging through getting x64 up and drivers running. 7 came into its own, and has proven a generally positive step forward. 8 and Vista share too much. They compromise function for form, and that isn't what I need.

BTW, XP is still used in a scary amount of places. The people in the government, healthcare, and resource management are largely still on XP. You honestly think you can move them from XP to 8? Best of luck to you, but I don't think MS has even considered that huge of a UI leap (assuming that their customers would have tried Vista or 7 first).

TotalChaos · Feb 5, 2013

I use the program Start Menu 8 to deal with the new layout

Deleted member 74752 · Feb 6, 2013

I found nothing appealing about Win 8 except it was new. I like Win 7. but if I could get away with it I would have XP on all my pc's.

Melvis · Feb 6, 2013

I was smart, never moved to Windows 8, stayed with 7.

erocker · Feb 6, 2013

I switched to Windows 8, made it look and navigate like Windows 7. Pleased with the results. Not like I'm going to use Windows 8 through my TechNet account at work, so I used it for myself.

Pieces · Feb 6, 2013

I tried the beta for a few hours :eek:

I"m back on windows 7

syeef · Feb 6, 2013

erocker said:
I switched to Windows 8, made it look and navigate like Windows 7. Pleased with the results.

That's exactly what I did.

MxPhenom 216 · Feb 6, 2013

You can literally make Windows 8 the same as Windows 7 in terms of GUI.

http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/

After getting Start8 you should have zero reason to go back to Windows 7 unless you must have Aero.

Windows 8 has a lot of Kernal improvements under the hood, and its more secure.

Steve-007UK · Feb 6, 2013

I tryed windows 8 again over the weekend untill it decided my cpu only has 3 cores so now back to windows 7

Liquid Cool · Feb 6, 2013

syeef said:
That's exactly what I did.

Ditto here. Stardock's Start8 program was the best $5 I've spent in the last decade. Only one of my newer laptops came with Windows 8, every other rig I use is a combo of WinXP/Vista/Win7/Mint depending on how old the system is and what it's used for.

I actually tried to downgrade the laptop(HP ENVY6 - 1129wm) to Windows 7 because I had a copy of it on hand, but I had trouble with drivers and HP is only listing drivers for Windows 8 - 64bit. The video drivers are even wonkier. Can't go directly to AMD and download/auto-detect the latest driver for my laptop...have to wait on HP. The video card is a 7600g.

Best,

LC

Jetster · Feb 6, 2013

Who need a start menu. Its faster without. I can get anywhere with less chicks then with a start menu

AphexDreamer · Feb 6, 2013

Got to use it on my moms laptop (since it came with it). First impression wasn't nice. Had updating issues, then as I was going through its repair options and features it slowly dawned on me. I realized just how nice it was.

Now Its on my main desktop and I love it

Won't be going back. Could use some improved creative drivers, but I assume that will happen with time.

I don't even miss the classic start menu. The metro one is the same but it just takes up the whole screen space which is actually better. You get to view more and switching back is just the click or button it took to get there. It really isn't a hassle.

manofthem · Feb 6, 2013

I'm pleased with Windows 8, especially now that crunching on it is stable for me.

Regarding Metro UI, I actually do use it once in a while, it being quicker (just what Jester said).

The few initial problems were overcome by throwing in a few shortcuts for shut down/restart/sleep, and since that, it's been easy going.

Surprisingly, running Win 8 with 7970 crossfire and running dual monitors with different resolutions, and I don't have any issues to report..... yet

silkstone · Feb 6, 2013

I tried it on my laptop twice and gave up both times and put windows 7 back on. 2 weeks ago i thought i'd have another go so i put it back on, I've only used it a little so far, but it doesn't seem to be crashing as much and more. I put start8 on it as i don't have a touch screen, and i rely on my start button quite a lot.

I m annoyed that they removed the start button all together with no option to enable it forcing you to spend more money for what should have been included. But, so far, this third try, i am starting to like it more.

I'm not sure i am ready for it on my main PC, maybe after a year or 2.

BigMack70 · Feb 6, 2013

Tried the beta for Windows 8 just to give it a shot and it was even worse than I ever possibly imagined (and I imagined it would be bad)

I wouldn't touch that pile of poo with a 200 foot pole if someone offered me a thousand bucks to do so. Made me want to freaking punch something everytime I used my computer.

Windows 7 for me.

manofthem · Feb 6, 2013

BigMack70 said:
I wouldn't touch that pile of poo with a 200 foot pole if someone offered me a thousand bucks to do so.

Heck, for $1,000 I'd even try OS X :laugh:

BigMack70 · Feb 6, 2013

manofthem said:
Heck, for $1,000 I'd even try OS X

Haha well it was hyperbole, though I honestly don't think I could use Windows 8 permanently even if I were offered $1000... I just couldn't get any work done on that OS and within 10 minutes of using it I was on a rant in my head about how someone at M$ should have lost their job over this-or-that boneheaded design decision.

It's my least favorite desktop OS I've ever used, by a large margin (that honor used to belong to some of the older versions of OS X that were pretty bad IMO)...

AphexDreamer · Feb 6, 2013

silkstone said:
I tried it on my laptop twice and gave up both times and put windows 7 back on. 2 weeks ago i thought i'd have another go so i put it back on, I've only used it a little so far, but it doesn't seem to be crashing as much and more. I put start8 on it as i don't have a touch screen, and i rely on my start button quite a lot.

I m annoyed that they removed the start button all together with no option to enable it forcing you to spend more money for what should have been included. But, so far, this third try, i am starting to like it more.

I'm not sure i am ready for it on my main PC, maybe after a year or 2.

But they didn't really remove it? They moved it and made it bigger. Instead of the button taking space on the bottom its hidden in the corner. Once you know its there its there and isn't going anywhere. Then instead of having menus pop out to the side you get a whole screen detected to the Start. Once your done you pop your mouse back to the corner and your on your desktop or you can just hit the desktop. I can understand the frustration from the start (I had it too) but once you learn those basics I can't see how it can still be frustrating.

BigMack70 · Feb 6, 2013

AphexDreamer said:
But they didn't really remove it? They moved it and made it bigger. Instead of the button taking space on the bottom its in the corner. Once you know its there its there and isn't going anywhere. Then instead of having menus pop out to the side you get a whole screen detected to the Start. Once your done you pop your mouse back to the corner and your on your desktop or you can just hit the desktop. I can understand the frustration from the start (I had it too) but once you learn those basics I can't see how it can still be frustrating.

The best analogy I can think of for Windows 8 is that it's a bit like DOS - you have to memorize a whole bunch of unintuitive things and then once you do, you're fine.

However, Microsoft has been showing us ever since at least Windows 95 that you can build a Windows OS that is intuitive and does NOT require extensive memorization to use. Apple has been doing the same thing. Windows 8 is a HUGE step backwards in this regard.

AphexDreamer · Feb 6, 2013

BigMack70 said:
The best analogy I can think of for Windows 8 is that it's a bit like DOS - you have to memorize a whole bunch of unintuitive things and then once you do, you're fine.

However, Microsoft has been showing us ever since at least Windows 95 that you can build a Windows OS that is intuitive and does NOT require extensive memorization to use. Apple has been doing the same thing. Windows 8 is a HUGE step backwards in this regard.

Dude knowing the Start menu is hidden in the corner does not equal extensive memorization. If remembering that is straining you how are you even using a PC? Regardless hitting the Windows key takes you to the start menu like it always has. And keeping it hidden in the bottom left corner where the start menu has been since 95 is also pretty self explanatory.

LAN_deRf_HA · Feb 6, 2013

Can you change the icon with start8? That skewed window design is a terrible idea for an icon because of the aliasing at that res.

BigMack70 · Feb 6, 2013

AphexDreamer said:
Dude knowing the Start menu is hidden in the corner does not equal extensive memorization. If remembering that is straining you how are you even using a PC? Regardless hitting the Windows key takes you to the start menu like it always has. And keeping it hidden in the bottom left corner where the start menu has been since 95 is also pretty self explanatory.

It's about a lot more fundamental boneheaded design decisions than it is just the decision to change the start menu. In every way, Windows 8 just screams "M$ can't decide if I should be for desktops or for tablets". It's the most schizophrenically designed OS ever made.

While I don't agree with everything in this video (and I have some gripes this video doesn't mention), I think it's a generally on the mark critique of Windows 8:

Windows 8: The Animated Evaluation - YouTube

Ryrynz · Feb 6, 2013

For those of you that miss Aero Glass in Windows 8..

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/161788-aero-glass-for-win8-v03/

Nordic · Feb 6, 2013

BigMack70 said:
It's about a lot more fundamental boneheaded design decisions than it is just the decision to change the start menu. In every way, Windows 8 just screams "M$ can't decide if I should be for desktops or for tablets". It's the most schizophrenically designed OS ever made.

While I don't agree with everything in this video (and I have some gripes this video doesn't mention), I think it's a generally on the mark critique of Windows 8:

Windows 8: The Animated Evaluation - YouTube

I think that guy in the video was highly exaggerating the problems. I had problems at first before I installed classicshell(equivilent) but nothing like he talks about.

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