How much over MSRP are you willing to spend on your graphics card?

[Chomiq]

There is no doubt that Nvidia is having more supply. Their sales are up 61% last year over the previous year according to their Annual Report. If you can't find the 3xxx in stores then where are they all going? I think the miners are hoarding them while crypto-currency is so profitable.

There were some FE drops at Scan today, sadly UK shipping only.

 

[trog100]

There were some FE drops at Scan today, sadly UK shipping only.

and every single one of them will end up on ebay at double the scan price.. assuming there really was any..

trog

 

[Super XP]

I am willing to go about $400usd which is about $503.22 Canadian Dollar. In Canada that is a lot of cash to fork out for a discrete GPU. With that money a CPU makes more sense. Close to $524.18 Australian Dollar. Man is it me or did the US dollar lose a lot of value lately?

 

[Hyderz]

i put msrp +10%
msrp + 10% = aib card price.

 

[seth1911]

20-30% under MSRP


But atm i haven't a PC, i use my Huawei Matebook with Ryzen 2500U and Ryzencontroller

 

[GreiverBlade]

MSRP always was a unicorn for me ... my 1070 initial price, in 2016, was 526chf which is a far cry from the 379$ msrp and even higher than the idiotic "FE pricing scam" of 449$ (i would be sour if it was not an insurance exchange at the time )

but hey! that's how Switzerland is... tho nowadays ... it's either not in stock or 3time MSRP for some cards (no talk about second hand ... peoples are eternal dreamers) ... which make that 1070 the longest lived card i ever had in a rig...

i still hope for a 6700 XT or 6800 XT... and a full Ryzen setup, but given the game i play at 1620p and how they are running fine ... i can hold for a bit longer.

i demand another poll option : "MSRP? what's a MSRP? can i eat it?"

 

[WhitetailAni]

15% of MSRP max.

 

[Hemmingstamp]

MSRP and not a penny more. Neither would I entertain scalpers, not that desperate.

 

[Animalpak]

it is inevitable to pay more than the MSRP, those who want to pay that price are few who can look at the official sites ready to click buy. How many are they? Not even 1% of owners.

Everyone attacks their earnings, from governments to stores to importers.

This vote should be labeled, your graphics card dreams.

 

[_Flare]

~75% of the Voters will not pay MSRP or more.
Mining killed the Raytracing Momentum

 

[windwhirl]

~75% of the Voters will not pay MSRP or more.
Mining killed the Raytracing Momentum

Correction: 75% will not pay more than MSRP.

On that, though, I'm a little surprised over 30% always wait for below MSRP offers. Then again, MSRP has shot up these days.

 

[trog100]

Correction: 75% will not pay more than MSRP.

On that, though, I'm a little surprised over 30% always wait for below MSRP offers. Then again, MSRP has shot up these days.

that does kind of mean that 75% will have to go without...

trog

 

[Cryio]

MSRP for me always was a guideline. In Europe, depending on country, VAT can even be 30%.

MSRP for a 5700 XT was 400$, while high-end variants such as Red Devil were 440$. I still ended up paying 615$ back in 2019 for example.

2070 were 735$ while the then newly launched 2070S were 785$ and up.

So for US people, I'm always amused. Your salaries are like 3-4x ours and all stuff costs half the amount it costs here. (aside from health care)

So 1500$ MSRP for a 3090 for example would be still cheaper for Americans than a 5700 XT at "400"$ was for me for example.

 

[The red spirit]

None, mostly because there isn't proper card for 200 +- 50 Euros. I don't want too much or too little. Also I don't want a card with 150 watt TDP or higher. AMD doesn't have anything, nVidia doesn't have anything either. The closest thing is RTX 3060, but it's too expensive anyway. I will keep using RX 580 until AMD and nV will pull their heads out of sand and start making proper mid range hardware. I'm tired of overpriced ovens with ridiculous RGB vomit coolers.

 

[Wshlist]

If it is new I know to not expect to get it for MSRP so in that sense I would expect to pay a bit more.
But in terms of the current nonsense with the crypto-crap and chip shortage and all that I just say 'forget it' rather than pay +35% more, or worse, pay premium-card prices for some sub-sub version of the GPU, with which they try to appease gamers.

I used to be pro crypto-currency, but then when bitcoin became a commodity rather than a currency and the bitcoin people embraced it rather than do something to prevent it I completely flipped and now all the crypto-currency (which is no longer currency) and its entourage can go boil their heads as far as I'm concerned, fuck em.

 

[lexluthermiester]

and now all the crypto-currency (which is no longer currency) and its entourage can go boil their heads as far as I'm concerned

Some of us feel you!

 

[olymind1]

I'm willing to spend MSRP +10% for a bigger better design (than the stock) cooler with much quiter fans.

Well, considering that MSRP means nothing these days and haven't for a couple of generations, the question of the poll is a bit flawed.
MSRP only means something if you live in the US and can get your hands of whatever reference design that Nvidia or AMD sells.
If memory serves, the board makers said they can't make any money if they had to sell current gen cards from either company at MSRP, so the board maker MSRP pricing jumped up a good 20% for starters, including AMD reference boards.
Then the custom designs arrived that were at least 25% more expensive than the MSRP and then shortage really took off and now most cards are double the MSRP.
One of the shops here that have had stock for quite some time, just added 50% to all their cards today, I mean
I have never seen anything like this and it's getting to the point of insanity and for what? So people can waste a ton of electricity on crunching numbers on their GPU's for some fake currency?

I've paid more than MSRP my entire life for computer parts, taxes not included, but this, this is some new kind of BS.

I think AMD an nVidia too should start hiring (better) engineers for designing their reference cards and fans for cooler and quiter operations and search for a manufacturer which would make these cards for them at large quantities so they could start selling them on their websites at MSRP prices to endusers so the AIB can finally f*ck themselves and their comical prices.

None, mostly because there isn't proper card for 200 +- 50 Euros. I don't want too much or too little. Also I don't want a card with 150 watt TDP or higher. AMD doesn't have anything, nVidia doesn't have anything either. The closest thing is RTX 3060, but it's too expensive anyway. I will keep using RX 580 until AMD and nV will pull their heads out of sand and start making proper mid range hardware. I'm tired of overpriced ovens with ridiculous RGB vomit coolers.

Same here. Around/below 150 W TDP cards can be cooled easier without much noise, also less heat generations is better for the other components in noise/silence focused pc cases. Currently i'm curious about the 6600(XT) or maybe some upcoming NV card below 300 €. If they can't produce card in that pricerange, then they're are not getting any money from me, it is that simple.

 

[The red spirit]

I'm willing to spend MSRP +10% for a bigger better design (than the stock) cooler with much quiter fans.


I think AMD an nVidia too should start hiring (better) engineers for designing their reference cards and fans for cooler and quiter operations and search for a manufacturer which would make these cards for them at large quantities so they could start selling them on their websites at MSRP prices to endusers so the AIB can finally f*ck themselves and their comical prices.

This is so underrated. So many cards are needlessly loud nowadays and are easily the most noisy component in any computer. Reference cards sucked, but AIBs have no excuse. I think that manufacturers should state card loudness specs, just like fan and cooler makers do, because it's so easy to end up with insufferable garbage that you can't return. The problem is that if you just want a quiet card, you will also have to buy into some poopy marketing scheme and pay a premium for things you don't want (ugly ass RGB cooler, gamerish branding, useless overclock, obnoxious shroud). With my RX 580 I found out that vBIOS modding is a good way to shut up card once and for all, but it seems that vBIOS mods aren't exactly doable on many other cards due to nVidia and AMD locking down their BIOSes.

Some cards are particularly awful and nobody should buy them, here's an example:

Asus RX 5500 XT VBIOS

8 GB GDDR6, 1717 MHz GPU, 1750 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

Cooler look beefy and has heatpipes, fans seems to be somewhat good for having more pressure than your average fans, but acoustic target is set to 1900 rpms and acoustic limit is at 3000 rpms. That's awful. Then there are some presumably high end cards that suck just as bad:

ASRock RX 5500 XT VBIOS

8 GB GDDR6, 1000 MHz GPU, 1750 MHz Memory

www.techpowerup.com

Again acoustic target is at 2000 rpms and acoustic limit is at 2200 rpms. Those specs look like you are buying a CPU cooler in early 2000s. I can cool my CPU with a single 120mm fan at 800 rpm, no card with dual fans should go above 1200 rpms. It's just stupid that they cheap out on making proper heatsinks even on premium models. And that particular Asrock card also has temperature target set at 80C, so it's hot and loud.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I think AMD an nVidia too should start hiring (better) engineers for designing their reference cards and fans for cooler and quiter operations and search for a manufacturer which would make these cards for them at large quantities so they could start selling them on their websites at MSRP prices to endusers so the AIB can finally f*ck themselves and their comical prices.

Normally neither company designs the coolers, instead they contact a few OEM/ODM makers and ask them all to make a cooler for them and then they pick the best price/performance model out of those. Cooler Master used to make the reference coolers for Nvidia som years ago, not sure who they're working with now.

 

[X71200]

A bit more than MSRP and that's for taxes or increase in price, etc. That's the most I generally pay.

"I'm not an idiot, I've read the scalper plans. But you still get ripped off? Not smart enough..."

 

[Speedyblupi]

I don't care about MSRP. If a card has good price-to-performance at the price it's selling for, I'm more likely to buy it, regardless of whether that price is higher or lower than MSRP. A 3090 at MSRP -25% is still a bad deal, and an RTX 3080 at MSRP +10% is still relatively good.

I'm waiting for RX-6800 tier performance for under £300. I don't care how long I have to wait (though I expect a couple of generations - maybe an RX 8600 XT or RTX 5060). It might happen sooner if crypto crashes again and miners offload their cards like in 2018-2019, and/or if the current investments in foundry capacity lead to an oversupply of 5nm in 2-3 years.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I don't care about MSRP. If a card has good price-to-performance at the price it's selling for, I'm more likely to buy it, regardless of whether that price is higher or lower than MSRP. A 3090 at MSRP -25% is still a bad deal, and an RTX 3080 at MSRP +10% is still relatively good.

That is some interesting thinking. Deeply flawed IMHO, but interesting none-the-less.

 

[Speedyblupi]

That is some interesting thinking. Deeply flawed IMHO, but interesting none-the-less.

I'm surprised why you would think that. It seems obvious to me that we should care about what we're getting for what we're paying, not about whether what we're paying is higher or lower than MSRP (which is effectively arbitrary). Why do you think my my thinking is flawed?

 

[lexluthermiester]

(which is effectively arbitrary)

Incorrect. MSRP is a carefully calculated number based on BOM, manufacturing cost, reseller cost, shipping costs and retailer cost. MSRP is a number that general includes a profit margin for everyone in the chain of distribution.

Why do you think my my thinking is flawed?

It makes no financial sense and is wasteful, again my opinion.

 

[Hardcore Games]

here is my latest RANT over the saga

VIDEO CARD VALUATIONS TODAY

Before the illicit Bitcoin surfaced, video cards slugged it out with game rendering. The incumbent RTX 2080 was expensive thanks to NVIDIA raising the prices by $100 over the previous Pascal series. The warranty has lapsed but the card is thermally stable. Some video cards procured from miners...

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