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How much RAM does a PC need for games?

Final Fantasy XV uses a hell of a lot of ram
 
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Playing DOOM, Real temp and CPU-Z opened max memory usage was 10GB


ya, I said above about memory leaks and you show doom and win-10 .

https://steamcommunity.com/app/379720/discussions/0/357286663676517404/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/379720/discussions/0/351660338692661445/

like the guy said here ''this game uses almost 6GB of ram so as mentioned background apps will impact the performance of 8GB of ram quite a bit.really you need 16GB in todays gaming''

ya, these crap poorly optimized games that released for quick sale to the needy markets that they mite fix later if at all and there you go ..

https://steamcommunity.com/app/379720/discussions/0/357286532028171141/



so ya, I guess if poorly optimized software you would run in to this and need lot of memory to support there junk

or like chrome can as well

https://lifehacker.com/why-chrome-uses-so-much-freaking-ram-1702537477

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tu...e-why-chrome-is-using-a-lot-of-memory-or-cpu/

then you never know if them steam, origin , uplay clients are buffering your pre info and data for upload ..lol...

you see here like ffxv is not letting the memory refresh and can be forced to do so and things get right ? poorly optimized software.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/637650/discussions/0/1692662484257445076/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/637650/discussions/0/1692662484259117154/?ctp=2

I like this statement ''The memory use measurements yield expected results: nothing really changes, regardless of whether you have an AMD or Nvidia card installed. With nearly 7GB tied up, Square Enix's 8GB minimum specification makes sense'

I guess so

one thing I can comment on is if using high resolution / 4k adds to this but so far if you invest in a 2x8gb kit you should be covered even with these issues

I don't recall if windows 10 has any memory limits on the releases like home pro ect.... most time windows home will only take up to / utilize 16 gb max .

you see with 10 how this is directly answered [what ever it decides whats best for you it seems ]

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...e/b1078908-1932-4c12-b5fd-bdcd58984333?auth=1

I mean in the comments you put 16 gb in and only 8 is useable ?? what the heck is using the other 8 ? is 10 that bloated it needs 8 gb to run

with all this crap i got open and running this win- 7 64 is at 2.22gb used of the 16 installed ? windows 10 what a joke I guess what you get from going from a OS to a service . never a straight answere with any of it , so trustworthy


all I can say is go with a 16gb kit and be done with it
 
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16GB of ram is good for 99,(9)% games nowadays. Personally with next upgrade soon i will go with 32GB as i prefer to have too much ram than not enough of ram. 8GB is not sufficient for many modern games and i do not recommend this value. Go with as high frequency ram as you can, also use dual channel provides 15-40% extra fps. So concluding: 16GB in form of 2x8GB with highest clock you can get.
 
I'm running 16GB of ram, but before that I had 8GB which worked fine until I started playing some games and mods which loaded 6GB of assets, which became a bottleneck and I started having stutters, I upgraded out of necessity for future proofing and reducing Windows virtual page size, I'm staying on DDR4 compatible rigs until at least 2020-2022, when there is a significant upgrade from my current CPU, maybe then games will require even more high-speed DRAM.

I mean 12GB world be perfect, but in our world almost nobody sells 12GB kits, so might as well get the 16GB kit whenever you can.
 
ya, I said above about memory leaks and you show doom and win-10 .

https://steamcommunity.com/app/379720/discussions/0/357286663676517404/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/379720/discussions/0/351660338692661445/

like the guy said here ''this game uses almost 6GB of ram so as mentioned background apps will impact the performance of 8GB of ram quite a bit.really you need 16GB in todays gaming''

ya, these crap poorly optimized games that released for quick sale to the needy markets that they mite fix later if at all and there you go ..

https://steamcommunity.com/app/379720/discussions/0/357286532028171141/



so ya, I guess if poorly optimized software you would run in to this and need lot of memory to support there junk

or like chrome can as well

https://lifehacker.com/why-chrome-uses-so-much-freaking-ram-1702537477

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tu...e-why-chrome-is-using-a-lot-of-memory-or-cpu/

then you never know if them steam, origin , uplay clients are buffering your pre info and data for upload ..lol...

you see here like ffxv is not letting the memory refresh and can be forced to do so and things get right ? poorly optimized software.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/637650/discussions/0/1692662484257445076/

https://steamcommunity.com/app/637650/discussions/0/1692662484259117154/?ctp=2

I like this statement ''The memory use measurements yield expected results: nothing really changes, regardless of whether you have an AMD or Nvidia card installed. With nearly 7GB tied up, Square Enix's 8GB minimum specification makes sense'

I guess so

one thing I can comment on is if using high resolution / 4k adds to this but so far if you invest in a 2x8gb kit you should be covered even with these issues

I don't recall if windows 10 has any memory limits on the releases like home pro ect.... most time windows home will only take up to / utilize 16 gb max .

you see with 10 how this is directly answered [what ever it decides whats best for you it seems ]

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...e/b1078908-1932-4c12-b5fd-bdcd58984333?auth=1

I mean in the comments you put 16 gb in and only 8 is useable ?? what the heck is using the other 8 ? is 10 that bloated it needs 8 gb to run

with all this crap i got open and running this win- 7 64 is at 2.22gb used of the 16 installed ? windows 10 what a joke I guess what you get from going from a OS to a service . never a straight answere with any of it , so trustworthy


all I can say is go with a 16gb kit and be done with it

The issues in DOOM stem from people who manually set their page file size or limited it entirely. Read up :) Its a real trend with all these people who think they are smarter than Microsoft with this OS. Somehow people think disabling page file improves performance... completely moronic

Also Windows 10 has no influence on this really and no its not a reason to stay on 7. Stop spreading FUD

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Also Windows 10 has no influence on this really and no its not a reason to stay on 7. maybe maybe not I'm not trusting it how can you ?

that's a matter of opinion on if you want a OS or a malware service pretending its a OS ? ..lol... like I say I'd have to hate your guts to recommend you use 10 . with 10 your at microsoftsd mercy more then ever before internet connection required ..lol...

first clue was how they tried to force , strong arm and trick folks in to using it and offered it for free ?? Microsoft and free in the same line told me ''STAY AWAY '' somethings up with that right off the bat . so far I seem to been right from all you see and read about 10 . ya, good luck with it . if it was not for PC gaming you would never need Microsoft anyway that there only hold on folks .

out side gaming what cant Linux do for free and your not forced in to anything as with 10 you are ?

to each his own on that , its not my personal info ior data running on it . or forced updating or ect...... it will never be used here . heck I don't even trust then with 7 anymore starting with that 10 strong arming and trickery , and rollover updating they applied to that now . [ you roll over and butt raised ] your personal computer is now there public computer with 10 [all a opinion , we all have one so don't hate ]
 
out side gaming what cant Linux do for free and your not forced in to anything as with 10 you are ?

I couldn't agree more with you, Gaming is the only reason i use W10, on my second Machine i am running Ubuntu.
 
ya another point is notice how all this new hardware is just about win -10 only ?? ya, you could use 7 or 8 on your rig but then it may not fully work if at all doing so .

sad thing is all that DX 12 hyped up over 10 as a lure to trick you in to it ? with out me useuing 10 I cant get out my front door with al the dx 12 stuff piled up ... lol,,,, ya, you got / or getting scammed and played .. computer building is pretty much a dead deal here anymore . and no such thing a s you own personal computer . now its do it there way or no way [and thanks for all your data ] then add there clients thats all ways required + that mandatory internet connection that you got to download there content first off the bat that all ways seeming needed ??? hmmmmm...... think hard on what your doing to your self with this stuff today . I can find thing outside of this to take up my time and neo need to stoop to it ..

anyway I hope the OP makes a right choice on the memory and buy the "KIT'' you need and never mix or just add to down the road . even the same brand part numbers and all match they may not have the same IC's used and may cause instability / don't play together well .. memory kits are factory matched and paired for that batch production run only and can change with out notice
 
Also Windows 10 has no influence on this really and no its not a reason to stay on 7. maybe maybe not I'm not trusting it how can you ?

that's a matter of opinion on if you want a OS or a malware service pretending its a OS ? ..lol... like I say I'd have to hate your guts to recommend you use 10 . with 10 your at microsoftsd mercy more then ever before internet connection required ..lol...

first clue was how they tried to force , strong arm and trick folks in to using it and offered it for free ?? Microsoft and free in the same line told me ''STAY AWAY '' somethings up with that right off the bat . so far I seem to been right from all you see and read about 10 . ya, good luck with it . if it was not for PC gaming you would never need Microsoft anyway that there only hold on folks .

out side gaming what cant Linux do for free and your not forced in to anything as with 10 you are ?

to each his own on that , its not my personal info ior data running on it . or forced updating or ect...... it will never be used here . heck I don't even trust then with 7 anymore starting with that 10 strong arming and trickery , and rollover updating they applied to that now . [ you roll over and butt raised ] your personal computer is now there public computer with 10 [all a opinion , we all have one so don't hate ]

Its fine if you want to stay on 7, by all means. Just make sure its for the right reasons, that is all. You saw my RAM usage on a Windows 10 rig with Chrome open - which is the topic of this thread...necessity of RAM size, not some personal crusade supported by false arguments.
 
''supported by false arguments'' ???? . its all over the net in articles form most all pc sites .. seems all you look at is the hype sheets and none of the facts . then you got its eula you agreed to did you even read in to it first ?

you got off on that and like chrome is a known resource hog as with the rest as in poorly optimized software . like I say for me I don't use 10 and I'm not seeing it . I'm running them final fantasy benches and so far after 3 loops of each I yet to see over 3.25 gb used not 10 gb as said above ? like 10 I know better then to use chrome as well . see you do it to your selves . or your memory management in your ''service'' is borked . when the truth hurts hate and attacks follow , right ? I just call it like it is

well, well FFXV with 7 used up to 6.66 gb [the devil's number ] with 3 loops worth now why and what for seeing it don't look anymore demanding then the FFXIV 's really not as spectacular with the big fancy fight scenes .

I'd say maybe poor optimization . . any way I see it here but can tell it don't seem as fluid as the older FF benches ran just glad it a free bench not something I paid for

good luck and enjoy
 
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FFXV is also fine with 8 GB - fun fact, on Windows 10 it seems I can get away with 6.3 GB instead of 6.66 on 7? Gosh... Again, not sure what you're on about, of course you will find individuals on the internet that show you something else, I've already shown you how in DOOM most of the supposed 'memory leaks' are in fact people who manually disable page file and how people who do use it and/or have 16 GB have no problems whatsoever.

So, I'm just going to repeat myself since it seems the plank is thick with you.

Do whatever you like, just do it for the right reasons. Not some fantasy argument that many people are creating for themselves with their special 'OS tweaks'. You can whine about the state of applications all day but the bottom line doesn't change for a user that DOES use them, does it? We're not in this topic to spout our personal feelings about all those apps...

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Also you do realize when you have more ram, the system will allocate/save more information too it.
 
ya, I ran it some more and it was as low as 2,50 up to 6.75gb running the same ffxv bench at the same settings so why one run so low and as should be normal [opinion] the next 6 gb ? and ffxv looked suckie and not as fluid as the 2 ffxiv 's they ran and looked far better . that ffxv just came off poor looking / running overall to me [opinion] poorly optimized / bad code use from over the last one ?

I feel the OP just grab a solid 16 gb kit and be happy .
 
Hope we could help him out,in the end :)
 
I definitely noticed a reduction in stutter in a few games when I upgraded to 16 GB. So in a nutshell : 16 GB , not a critical upgrade but not undesirable either.
 
I agree with the others saying 16GB, if your budget allows, being a good spot for games. If you're on a tight budget 8GB will be livable.
 
Generally 8 GB will be enough for gaming, while 16 GB is much more future proof. When I played Far Cry 4, Far Cry Primal, Battlefield 1 (1920x1080, highest possible settings) with HW info and web pages opened in the background, the memory utilization wasn't even near 8 GB. Some games with certain mods and several programs running in the background will require more than 8 GB of RAM, but realistically current games by itself without unnecessary apps/programs running in the background will not need more than that.
Anything more than 16 GB purely for gaming is utter nonsense.
 
Its very real. RAM is something you need enough of, and beyond 'enough' there is only 'too much'

I guess that depends on the user, situation and the ultimate factor.... Their wallet.

As said earlier I'm having to look at getting 32GB's for mine because I'm expecting to run this setup for soemtime to come and things will only demand more of everything in the future. Speed, cores, HDD space, memory.... At least I'll have enough of that once done this build should carry me for the next 5 years at least.
 
The op says he's gaming. I see people saying 16GB us good for "most" games, and some are recommending 32 GB... can anyone provide an example of a game that takes >16 GB? Hell, how many examples can you give that take over 8?
 
The op says he's gaming. I see people saying 16GB us good for "most" games, and some are recommending 32 GB... can anyone provide an example of a game that takes >16 GB? Hell, how many examples can you give that take over 8?
Only ONE person said 32GB is needed and we saw how fast that got downvoted, and then there are people who got 32GB for a good deal are just pointing out their good deal. I have my 32GB for other reasons than gaming and pretty sure that's related to why other people got 32GB.
 
My next upgrade will follow the base principle... GPU VRAM+OS at Idle system RAM usage. For most that puts it at 10-11GB for most games. So the logical choice is 16GB. My system uses 2.1GB at the desktop on a fresh start.
 
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