How Much Storage Is Enough To You?

Toothless · May 24, 2023

RDNAuser said:
I am sorry you have had no other wins in life so need this one, I am inferior and you are my superior, you make up a math sum and I am wrong.

Warning awesome music ahead....
Do you like music? I like music too, lets toast!

Don't say you had no warning.

I prefer heavier stuff but thanks. I'll keep on with ignoring your snark and you keep going on with your 8TB drives.

AusWolf · May 24, 2023

Klemc said:
There is no read for SSD really, only HDD have read counted, that's why y SSD are 100% !!
Neat, i have too 7Tb games installed ready to launch
It's a Gamin' PC.

They don't have reads, but the writes eat up their life, not to mention their "remaining life indicator" which pretty much every manufacturer includes in SMART these days.

RDNAuser · May 24, 2023

AusWolf said:
I don't want you to do anything, relax.

All I'm saying is that I've currently got 20- something games installed, but I never play more than 2 or 3 at a time.

I have the most prominennt games installed so I can just flick to it if I want to play it, just turns out that's a lot of prominent games.

Toothless said:
I prefer heavier stuff but thanks. I'll keep on with ignoring your snark and you keep going on with your 8TB drives.

I will ignore your narcissism and need to be right even though this is a subjective thread.

I prefer women, leave me alone.

Klemc · May 24, 2023

My 559 games in HTML, 7.7Mb only :

559 Games.zip

drive.google.com

RDNAuser · May 24, 2023

Klemc said:
My 559 games in HTML, 7.7Mb only :

559 Games.zip

drive.google.com

This is the future! :laugh:

Klemc · May 24, 2023

So, QVO will not be problmetic in my situation ?! :

i buyed it it... will come tomorrow as a 8Tb unit, has there been evolution in the hardware build since launch ?.. i paid 400 euros.

I will use it to merge all my actual drives in one, and when possible i will switch to one NVMe 8Tb and use the QVO as backup, it will not have a lot of re-writes in the meantime and will have the needed files serving on it as backup when switched to a n NVMe, so no re-write after switch, just keep update files in the future.

A Computer Guy · May 24, 2023

Klemc said:
So, QVO will not be problmetic in my situation ?! :

i buyed it it... will come tomorrow as a 8Tb unit, has there been evolution in the hardware build since launch ?.. i paid 400 euros.

I will use it to merge all my actual drives in one, and when possible i will switch to one NVMe 8Tb and use the QVO as backup, it will not have a lot of re-writes in the meantime and will have the needed files serving on it as backup when switched to a n NVMe, so no re-write after switch, just keep update files in the future.

Depending on how big the SLC cache is on that drive you might need to break up the file copy into multiple parts with a little breather in between.

Klemc · May 24, 2023

A Computer Guy said:
Depending on how big the SLC cache is on that drive you might need to break up the file copy into multiple parts with a little breather in between.

Yeah, i thinked exactly that, and after files are all copied, i can use it safely, read will not make it age/fail !?

I've been told it has 80Gb endurence/cache, so i should copy by 80Gb ?.. and wait how much time between two copies ?

I'll use Synckback it has pause function anytime.

A Computer Guy · May 24, 2023

Klemc said:
Yeah, i thinked exactly that, and after files are all copied, i can use it safely, read will not make it age/fail !?

I have never known or read that ssd reads were ever an issue as far as drive wear and tear. Writes are the biggie that wears out the drives over time.

Klemc said:
I've been told it has 80Gb endurence/cache, so i should copy by 80Gb ?.. and wait how much time between two copies ?

I'm not sure what that means exactly. Perhaps you can do a test and create some test zip files in various increments of 10GB and do some file copy testing to the EVO and see at what point the SLC cache get's exhausted and your copy speeds drop to intolerable levels. It's going to be different depending on the drive capacity. On my 1TB EVO I just need to wait a short time maybe 15 to 30 seconds once it gets saturated before I give it another go.

Klemc · May 24, 2023

A Computer Guy said:
I have never known or read that ssd reads were ever an issue as far as drive wear and tear. Writes are the biggie that wears out the drives over time.

I'm not sure what that means exactly. Perhaps you can do a test and create some test zip files in various increments of 10GB and do some file copy testing to see at what point the SLC cache get's exhausted and you copy speeds drop to intolerable levels.

Perfectly understood, i will follow copies on Synckback interface then put pauses when needed, allright, well thanks.

Toothless · May 24, 2023

Klemc said:
Perfectly understood, i will follow copies on Synckback interface then put pauses when needed, allright, well thanks.

Dude just copy the files and stop overthinking.

Klemc · May 25, 2023

Hard drive capacity calculator. Real vs claimed

When it comes to HDD or SSD, the advertised storage space is not the same as claimed. Use this tool to check the real capacity.

platinumdatarecovery.com

8 = 7.28

Anf first entire TB missing is for 10Tb

10) = 9 :fear:

traffic cone of schooling · May 25, 2023

I barely use any storage space, so around 500 gigabytes is plenty for me

Klemc · May 25, 2023

Toothless said:
Dude just copy the files and stop overthinking.

And if somebody else told me to apply pauses during full 7Tb file copy process, what should i do in the end, pause or not pause ??

https://www.reddit.com/r/NewMaxx/comments/lhmbw4/_/gmy18w6

Beginner Micro Device · May 25, 2023

I'm personally not fat on data. Can live well even if limited to funny 500 GB. Usually have a couple somewhat modern games installed and some rare movies saved just in case. This doesn't mean I won't buy a fat SSD some time later, it's just not as necessary.

The only reason I don't have an HDD is my ultimate "drop the bass" ability leading to irreversible damage of them. Can't trust my hands.

Toothless · May 25, 2023

Klemc said:
And if somebody else told me to apply pauses during full 7Tb file copy process, what should i do in the end, pause or not pause ??

https://www.reddit.com/r/NewMaxx/comments/lhmbw4/_/gmy18w6

Listen to whoever you want. Either use the drives as drives, manually trim during the transfer, or whatever that wall of text is. Not going to argue over how to move files.

A Computer Guy · May 25, 2023

Klemc said:
Hard drive capacity calculator. Real vs claimed

When it comes to HDD or SSD, the advertised storage space is not the same as claimed. Use this tool to check the real capacity.

platinumdatarecovery.com

8 = 7.28

Anf first entire TB missing is for 10Tb

10) = 9

Also that's not accounting for any % you set aside for overprovisioning which is optional.

Marcus L · May 25, 2023

A Computer Guy said:
Also that's not accounting for any % you set aside for overprovisioning which is optional.

Is there much benefit to doing this manually? don't SSD's have over provisioning straight out of the box with space that you can't see/access?

Toothless · May 25, 2023

Marcus L said:
Is there much benefit to doing this manually? don't SSD's have over provisioning straight out of the box with space that you can't see/access?

Normally yes. Samsung drives you can manually change it but it's not recommended since those backup cells replace dead cells to increase longevity.

Marcus L · May 25, 2023

Toothless said:
Normally yes. Samsung drives you can manually change it but it's not recommended since those backup cells replace dead cells to increase longevity.

Is not leaving a portion of the drive unallocated doing the same thing? just been googling about it and wondering if there would be any benefit on a drive where you don't necessarily need all of the space :confused:

A Computer Guy · May 25, 2023

Marcus L said:
Is not leaving a portion of the drive unallocated doing the same thing?

From what I have read leaving a portion of the drive unallocated is the same thing. The controller can use the unused space as needed.

Marcus L said:
just been googling about it and wondering if there would be any benefit on a drive where you don't necessarily need all of the space

If you write many GB per day it might be useful.

Klemc · May 25, 2023

QVO is 7452,02 reported by MSWin

Toothless said:
Listen to whoever you want. Either use the drives as drives, manually trim during the transfer, or whatever that wall of text is. Not going to argue over how to move files.

And it gets better, since files are verified (SyncBack), it will read the files after write, letting time to cache to flush, no ?

A Computer Guy · May 25, 2023

Klemc said:
QVO is 7452,02 reported by MSWin
View attachment 297525

And it gets better, since files are verified (SyncBack), it will read the files after write, letting time to cache to flush, no ?

I would just try it. If the performance of the transfer drops after many ### number of GB's you will have your answer and can adjust your copy strategy accordingly. Larger drives will have larger caches so you may not have any issue at all.

Klemc · May 25, 2023

Looks like to work great that way !!
:peace:

Copy+Verify mod was a neat idea of me.

AusWolf · May 25, 2023

A Computer Guy said:
From what I have read leaving a portion of the drive unallocated is the same thing. The controller can use the unused space as needed.

Why did I never think of that? How many times I told my parents to leave a portion of their SSD empty! How much headache this could have saved me! :rolleyes:

Klemc said:
And if somebody else told me to apply pauses during full 7Tb file copy process, what should i do in the end, pause or not pause ??

https://www.reddit.com/r/NewMaxx/comments/lhmbw4/_/gmy18w6

I'd be too lazy to bother with a file copy in the background. I'd just let it do its thing. If it takes X hours, it takes X hours, who cares?

But to be fair, this is why I'd never buy a cacheless QLC drive.

System Name	Veral
Processor	5950x
Motherboard	MSI MEG x570 Ace
Cooling	Corsair H150i Elite
Memory	4x16GB G.Skill TridentZ
Video Card(s)	Powercolor 7900XTX Red Devil
Storage	Crucial P5 Plus 1TB, Samsung 980 1TB, Teamgroup MP34 4TB
Display(s)	Acer Nitro XZ342CK Pbmiiphx + 2x AOC 2425W
Case	Fractal Design Meshify Lite 2
Audio Device(s)	Blue Yeti + SteelSeries Arctis 5 / Samsung HW-T550
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova GT 1300w
Mouse	Corsair Nightsword
Keyboard	Corsair K55
VR HMD	HP Reverb G2
Software	Windows 11 Professional
Benchmark Scores	PEBCAK

System Name	Nebulon-B Mk. 4
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard	MSi PRO B650M-A WiFi
Cooling	be quiet! Dark Rock 4
Memory	2x 24 GB Corsair Vengeance EXPO DDR5-6000
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 7800 XT
Storage	2 TB Corsair MP600 GS, 2 TB Corsair MP600 R2, 4 + 8 TB Seagate Barracuda 3.5"
Display(s)	Dell S3422DWG, 7" Waveshare touchscreen
Case	Kolink Citadel Mesh black
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime GX-750
Mouse	Logitech MX Master 2S
Keyboard	Logitech G413 SE
Software	Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	Cinebench R23 single-core: 1,800, multi-core: 18,000. Superposition 1080p Extreme: 9,900.

System Name	anal fucker
Processor	a
Motherboard	n
Cooling	a
Memory	l
Storage	f
Display(s)	u
Case	c
Audio Device(s)	k
Power Supply	e
Mouse	r

System Name	KLM
Processor	7800X3D
Motherboard	B-650E-E Strix
Cooling	Arctic Cooling II 280
Memory	16x2 Fury Renegade 6000-32
Video Card(s)	4070-ti PNY
Storage	512+512+1+2+2+2+2+6+500+256+4+4+4
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Case	4000D Airflow
Audio Device(s)	Edifier 1280Ts
Power Supply	Shift 1000
Mouse	502 Hero
Keyboard	K68
Software	EMDB
Benchmark Scores	0>1000

System Name	anal fucker
Processor	a
Motherboard	n
Cooling	a
Memory	l
Storage	f
Display(s)	u
Case	c
Audio Device(s)	k
Power Supply	e
Mouse	r

System Name	Not a thread ripper but pretty good.
Processor	Ryzen 9 5950x
Motherboard	ASRock X570 Taichi (revision 1.06, BIOS/UEFI version P5.50)
Cooling	EK-Quantum Velocity, EK-Quantum Reflection PC-O11, EK-CoolStream PE 360, Alphacool NexXxoS ST25 360
Memory	Micron DDR4-3200 ECC Unbuffered Memory (4 sticks, 128GB, 18ASF4G72AZ-3G2F1)
Video Card(s)	XFX Radeon RX 5700 & EK-Quantum Vector Radeon RX 5700 +XT & Backplate
Storage	Samsung 2TB 980 PRO 2TB Gen4x4 NVMe, Samsung 2TB 970 EVO Plus Gen3x4 NVMe x 2
Display(s)	2 x 4K LG 27UL600-W (and HUANUO Dual Monitor Mount)
Case	Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic Black (original model)
Power Supply	Corsair RM750x
Mouse	Logitech M575
Keyboard	Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2
Software	Windows 10 Professional (64bit)
Benchmark Scores	Typical for non-overclocked CPU.

Processor	Core i5 12600KF
Motherboard	Asus TUF B760 PLUS WIFI D4
Cooling	NH-D12L
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3600Mhz (2x16)
Video Card(s)	Arc A750, 9500 GT (to operate case lights)
Storage	Samsung 840 Pro (boot), Samsung 980 Pro
Display(s)	Planar PL2210W
Case	XPS 630 case
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	RM850x
Mouse	G502X
Keyboard	Dell SK-8135

System Name	DLSS
Processor	i5-12400F
Motherboard	Gigabyte B760M DS3H
Cooling	Liquid metal under the IHS + Laminar RM1
Memory	2x8 GB
Video Card(s)	RX 6700 XT [main] / RX 480 8 GB Reference [backup]
Storage	More than enough.
Display(s)	Compit HA2704 / Viewsonic VX3276-MHD-2
Case	None.
Audio Device(s)	Want loud, use headphones. Want quiet, use satellites.
Power Supply	Gerrymandering.
Mouse	Don't disturb, cheese eating in progress...
Keyboard	Makes some noise. Probably onto something.
VR HMD	I live in real reality and don't need a virtual one.
Software	Windows 10 and 11

Processor	Ryzen 5700x
Motherboard	Gigabyte Auros Elite AX V2
Cooling	Thermalright Peerless Assassin SE White
Memory	TeamGroup T-Force Delta RGB 32GB 3600Mhz
Video Card(s)	MSi 2080 Super Ventus OC
Storage	1TB WD PCIE3 NVME, 500GB SSD, 2TB Seagate HDD
Case	Corsair 4000D White
Power Supply	EVGA 600W

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