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How or what do I need to update for a 980M on a MSI GT-70

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My original video card died. I located a 980M - and solicited the services of a local repair shop to perform the install a few months ago. Card went in fine and the shop installed some generic drivers which got things functional.

Using the information from this and other sites I was able to mod the nvmii.inf file for the current nVidia drivers and install. Games are playable again! Now...

I'd *really* like to have the drivers self-update and forget about the mod process. I'm also hoping that with whatever BIOS/ROM/whatever flashing is required the Intel graphics driver will re-enable as well (not that I'm using it - I'd just like to see my Device Manager free of problems).

Here are the results of nvflash64 --version:

NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.590.0)
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.

Adapter: GeForce GTX 980M (10DE,13D7,1462,05AB) H:--:NRM S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00

EEPROM ID (7F,9D42) : PMC Pm25LQ020 2.3-3.6V 2048Kx1S, page

Sign-On Message : GM204 P2754 SKU 003 VGA BIOS
Build GUID : Blank
IFR Subsystem ID : 1028-05AB
Subsystem Vendor ID : 0x1028
Subsystem ID : 0x05AB
Version : 84.04.85.00.0A
Image Hash : E38F5BBF0417CB24C0C2BA6B53ABFDB5
Product Name : GM204 Board
Device Name(s) : GeForce GTX 980M
Board ID : 0xE906
Vendor ID : 0x10DE
Device ID : 0x13D7
Hierarchy ID : Normal Board
Chip SKU : 700-0
Project : 2754-0003
Build Date : 07/06/15
Modification Date : 07/14/15
UEFI Version : 0x2000B
UEFI Variant ID : 0x0000000000000006 ( GM2xx )
UEFI Signer(s) : Microsoft Corporation UEFI CA 2011
XUSB-FW Version ID : N/A
XUSB-FW Build Time : N/A
InfoROM Version : N/A
InfoROM Backup : Not Present
License Placeholder : Not Present
GPU Mode : N/A

I've also tried nvflash64 --compare MSI.GTX980M.8192.150108.rom:

NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility (Version 5.590.0)
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.

Adapter: GeForce GTX 980M (10DE,13D7,1462,05AB) H:--:NRM S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00

EEPROM ID (7F,9D42) : PMC Pm25LQ020 2.3-3.6V 2048Kx1S, page

NVIDIA Firmware Comparison
Comparing msi.rom...
Current - Version:84.04.85.00.0A ID:10DE:13D7:1028:05AB
GM204 Board (Normal Board)
Compare with - Version:84.04.48.00.20 ID:10DE:1617:1462:1140
GM204 Board (Normal Board)

ERROR: Size difference between file(193024) and adapter ROM space (261120)
NOTE: Make sure to compare with entire saved image file.
Firmware
Legacy BIOS ........................................ Mismatch
UEFI ............................................... Mismatch
Firmware Certificate ............................... Mismatch
InfoROM ................................................ N/A
Unallocated Space ...................................... Pass

MISMATCH ERROR: Command Compare error

I can also share:
MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.28j
MSIHQ: Report generated in Sun 03/15/2020 at 20:30:37.75
*********************************
Mainboard: MS-1763
PCB Version: REV:0.C
BIOS Version: E1763IG6.70Y
BIOS Date: 6/4/2014
EC-FW Version:
*********************************

I don't want to force apply anything blindly. Have I given enough information in the above for guidance or is there something else I need to provide?

Thanks in advance for any help!
 

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Since it is working Id leave it alone, the M type gpus are a pain to crossflash, you need a specific vbios for your laptop and gpu combination.

Need to know if it has 4G or 8G and what specific ram is on that card.

There is a File for a GT-72 but lets see info first...

Get GPU-Z and let me see what it contains screenshot wise and then click the arrow next to uefi checkbox and attrmpt to upload the bios to the vga bios collection through the program itself. You may get a prompt the file is already in the database with a link, copy and paste link here.

@HeavyThumper

Get a picture of the labels from the bottom of the laptop too so we know what specific gt-70 we are dealing with
 
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Need to know if it has 4G or 8G and what specific ram is on that card.

Get GPU-Z and let me see what it contains screenshot wise and then click the arrow next to uefi checkbox and attrmpt to upload the bios to the vga bios collection through the program itself. You may get a prompt the file is already in the database with a link, copy and paste link here.

@HeavyThumper

Get a picture of the labels from the bottom of the laptop too so we know what specific gt-70 we are dealing with
GPU-Z screenshot:


It appears to be a Dell card - link to bios is https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/202035/202035

Anything I missed?

Anything I missed?
You asked for pictures or information from labels. This was purchased from PowerNotebooks.com (which has since been sold to HIDEvolution.com). My understanding is this was based on a "whitebox" version of the GT70 that custom notebook resellers used. There are no labels present (besides my custom identity engraving).

I *think* the base version was the GT70 0NE but I can't swear to it.
 

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GPU-Z screenshot:


It appears to be a Dell card - link to bios is https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/202035/202035

Anything I missed?



You asked for pictures or information from labels. This was purchased from PowerNotebooks.com (which has since been sold to HIDEvolution.com). My understanding is this was based on a "whitebox" version of the GT70 that custom notebook resellers used. There are no labels present (besides my custom identity engraving).

I *think* the base version was the GT70 0NE but I can't swear to it.
It would be against my good judgement for you to flash without a recovery plan.
I highly suggest getting a external usb GPU that you can plug a monitor into and verify the system can bootup with that adapter as a disaster recovery method in case a msi bios flash fails. Also use gpu-z to back up your gpu bios to the desktop, rename it dellgpu.rom

I am glad msi wasn't as stingy as HP/Lenovo are with hardware whitelists. I'm surprised dell isn't when most of their stuff is...
 
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It would be against my good judgement for you to flash without a recovery plan.
I highly suggest getting a external usb GPU that you can plug a monitor into and verify the system can bootup with that adapter as a disaster recovery method in case a msi bios flash fails. Also use gpu-z to back up your gpu bios to the desktop, rename it dellgpu.rom

I am glad msi wasn't as stingy as HP/Lenovo are with hardware whitelists. I'm surprised dell isn't when most of their stuff is...
So, having made a backup, and possibly an external card - how do I proceed with flashing?
 

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Use this tool to flash.

Use this bios
Executing "nvflash64_patched_5.590.0.exe MSI.GTX980M.8192.150108.rom" results:
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility patched by Vipeax
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.

Checking for matches between display adapter(s) and image(s)...

Adapter: GeForce GTX 980M (10DE,13D7,1462,05AB) H:--:NRM S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00

EEPROM ID (7F,9D42) : PMC Pm25LQ020 2.3-3.6V 2048Kx1S, page

WARNING: None of the firmware image compatible PCI Device ID's
match the PCI Device ID of the adapter.
Adapter PCI Device ID: 13D7
Firmware image PCI Device ID: 1617
WARNING: Firmware image PCI Subsystem ID (1462.1140x
does not match adapter PCI Subsystem ID (1462.05AB).

NOTE: Exception caught.
Nothing changed!

ERROR: GPU mismatch


Is there another step or override required?
 

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Executing "nvflash64_patched_5.590.0.exe MSI.GTX980M.8192.150108.rom" results:
NVIDIA Firmware Update Utility patched by Vipeax
Copyright (C) 1993-2019, NVIDIA Corporation. All rights reserved.

Checking for matches between display adapter(s) and image(s)...

Adapter: GeForce GTX 980M (10DE,13D7,1462,05AB) H:--:NRM S:00,B:01,D:00,F:00

EEPROM ID (7F,9D42) : PMC Pm25LQ020 2.3-3.6V 2048Kx1S, page

WARNING: None of the firmware image compatible PCI Device ID's
match the PCI Device ID of the adapter.
Adapter PCI Device ID: 13D7
Firmware image PCI Device ID: 1617
WARNING: Firmware image PCI Subsystem ID (1462.1140x
does not match adapter PCI Subsystem ID (1462.05AB).

NOTE: Exception caught.
Nothing changed!

ERROR: GPU mismatch


Is there another step or override required?
Follow this video

 
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Still didn't work.

Either there's something extra super special about my stuff - or something's happened to these newer patched versions. I went exploring - and found "patched" versions including: 5.590, 5.541, and 5.527 - all failed to actually perform the "override" function. But on another site...I found 5.513...and...it...worked!

For the first time since installing this card - my Intel card is fully recognized and enabled! Not that I'm actually using it - but it's nice not to see the error in Device Manager anymore. And...damn.

Standard nVidia drivers don't recognize this config. And - after modding them I no longer see resolutions past 1080p (I normally use 4k) as the external display is detected as a DVI connection instead of HDMI. I spent considerable time plugging/unplugging/replugging/swapping HDMI cables before I gave up. Interestingly, using 5.590 I was able to restore the backup BIOS and get back to where I started.

So having killed a day playing with this - any thoughts on how I can achieve full functionality?
 
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The magic answer...updating the system BIOS. Svet on the MSI forums was able to provide me with a newer BIOS version - once applied the Intel graphics re-activated, nVidia detected and applied current drivers, and everything's working great!
 

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Good then

Id not muck with it any longer lol
 
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